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[Joseph Mallan]

Nightmare1, on 20 May 2015 - 12:14 PM, said:

You forget that when the poll was orginally announced, it came with the caveat that, even if it was a majority of "Yes" votes, PGI might choose not re-release the pack. Given the immense amount of opposition PGI is facing over this, the "Yes" majority would need to be large indeed to warrant alienating so many of their loyal fans.

So... PGI doesn't want to re issue the Pack and is just putting on a Dog and Pony Show... Got it. This is why I don't get upset. I see a lot of the Same Old Song and Dance. It's been everywhere for decades, and it is a rare event when anyone says what they do, do what they say, and prove it.

[TamCoan]

After much thought on the poll I voted no. I purchased the battlemaster bundle and have worn the badge every day. I purchased with hopes of a good game with a long life-span. To this day I wear the badge and pilot the (P) variants often. (I did the last two challenges completely with the battlemaster.) I see both as a token of history. “I was there” when the game was young. “I was there” when the game was beta. “I was there” when there was no guarantee the game would last another year. “I was there” when the forums raged and IGP ruled. When I see someone else with a (P) mech I know they were there too.

Today I have more mechs, badges and content. I will never change my badge away from the overlord because it shows history. Reselling the package now feels like it cheapens what it stands for.

[Joseph Mallan]

I feel your pride. I do. I understand it too.

But dude, its a game and the pride is misplaced.

[stjobe]

Joseph Mallan, on 21 May 2015 - 05:46 AM, said:

I feel your pride. I do. I understand it too.

But dude, its a game and the pride is misplaced.

People take pride in the strangest things - some even in things they had no part in, like the country they happen to be born in, or something that happened long before they were even born.

At least TamCoan was there, took the leap of faith, and gave PGI his money six months in advance - at a time when MWO's future was very much more uncertain than it is even today.

Why shouldn't he feel proud of that?

[N a p e s]

I voted yes, because I don't see the harm in letting others get the pack but really the important thing is that they're asking the Phoenix owners.

I understand that the page for the sale specifically said that these would never be on-sale as a pack again, but it seems that over the years there has been enough demand to warrant a poll. No inherent harm in asking. Now, if PGI had just gone ahead and all of a sudden the Phoenix packs were on-sale again I'd be confused and a little annoyed but this is not the case. The fact that they're asking at all is a good thing.

[Nightmare1]

Joseph Mallan, on 21 May 2015 - 05:46 AM, said:

I feel your pride. I do. I understand it too.

But dude, its a game and the pride is misplaced.

It's better than misplaced pride in a Princess Di Beanie Baby.

[TamCoan]

Joseph Mallan, on 21 May 2015 - 05:46 AM, said:

I feel your pride. I do. I understand it too.

But dude, its a game and the pride is misplaced.

Well that's your opinion, it does not invalidate mine.

[Nightmare1]

It looks like we need 18 or 19 votes to tip the poll into a 55/45 split. I seriously doubt that this trend will reverse itself in the next day.

[Nightmare1]

Looks like the "No" crowd will win. The gap has widened by another percentage point to become a 55/45 split!

[Joseph Mallan]

TamCoan, on 21 May 2015 - 07:50 AM, said:

Well that's your opinion, it does not invalidate mine.

Spot on sir.

So glad you understand how Opinions work!
As long as we can remember that we can disagree whenever we want.

Nightmare1, on 21 May 2015 - 07:32 AM, said:

It's better than misplaced pride in a Princess Di Beanie Baby.

See this for instance is a difference in Opinion.

Is it really better?

Will someone buy my game from me for hundreds of thousands of Dollars? If I had a 1st Ed Di, someone might!

I had a LE Leviathan-class warship mini.


It was mine for running "The Trial of Retribution".

It sold for $125 on Ebay. A $20(give or take) Mini sold for $125... Stranger things happen.

Edited by Joseph Mallan, 22 May 2015 - 09:34 AM.

[Simbacca]

TamCoan, on 21 May 2015 - 05:41 AM, said:

After much thought on the poll I voted no. I purchased the battlemaster bundle and have worn the badge every day. I purchased with hopes of a good game with a long life-span. To this day I wear the badge and pilot the (P) variants often. (I did the last two challenges completely with the battlemaster.) I see both as a token of history. “I was there” when the game was young. “I was there” when the game was beta. “I was there” when there was no guarantee the game would last another year. “I was there” when the forums raged and IGP ruled. When I see someone else with a (P) mech I know they were there too.

Today I have more mechs, badges and content. I will never change my badge away from the overlord because it shows history. Reselling the package now feels like it cheapens what it stands for.

Same with me.

[Burktross]

Vote yes because I need me a Hunchback 4G w/ cbill bonuses

[IraqiWalker]

Joseph Mallan, on 22 May 2015 - 09:30 AM, said:

I had a LE Leviathan-class warship mini.


It was mine for running "The Trial of Retribution".

It sold for $125 on Ebay. A $20(give or take) Mini sold for $125... Stranger things happen.

I want that battleship. I have NO BT minis right now, so getting it is not really a good way to start a new BT collection, but I still want it!

[Burktross]

TamCoan, on 21 May 2015 - 05:41 AM, said:

After much thought on the poll I voted no. I purchased the battlemaster bundle and have worn the badge every day. I purchased with hopes of a good game with a long life-span. To this day I wear the badge and pilot the (P) variants often. (I did the last two challenges completely with the battlemaster.) I see both as a token of history. “I was there” when the game was young. “I was there” when the game was beta. “I was there” when there was no guarantee the game would last another year. “I was there” when the forums raged and IGP ruled. When I see someone else with a (P) mech I know they were there too.

Today I have more mechs, badges and content. I will never change my badge away from the overlord because it shows history. Reselling the package now feels like it cheapens what it stands for.

If veteran identification is what makes you want to keep the package, why not petition PGI to make the Phoenix re-release not come with the titles, and maybe the mechs could say (P2)?

[Bishop Steiner]

Animus41, on 19 May 2015 - 12:26 PM, said:

Remember folks a Yes vote here means a Yes vote for the resell of the Founders mechs as well.

what a lie. Is there a reason to misrepresent things like this?

[Mirkk Defwode]

Bishop Steiner, on 22 May 2015 - 09:59 AM, said:

what a lie. Is there a reason to misrepresent things like this?

Hope and/or Fear.

Both powerful motivators.

[Joseph Mallan]

Animus41, on 19 May 2015 - 12:26 PM, said:

Remember folks a Yes vote here means a Yes vote for the resell of the Founders mechs as well.

I have 3 Alts that would like to have a shot at them!

Having a (F)Atlas is not all its cracked up to be.

IraqiWalker, on 22 May 2015 - 09:53 AM, said:

I want that battleship. I have NO BT minis right now, so getting it is not really a good way to start a new BT collection, but I still want it!

It is a very nice mini. My playing group had 3!

[Bishop Steiner]

Mirkk Defwode, on 22 May 2015 - 10:03 AM, said:

Hope and/or Fear.

Both powerful motivators.

People with legitimate arguments don't need to bend or misrepresent facts. People with agendas, do.

[Mirkk Defwode]

Bishop Steiner, on 22 May 2015 - 10:40 AM, said:

People with legitimate arguments don't need to bend or misrepresent facts. People with agendas, do.

Agreed.

I was just saying that's some of the intent behind those statements is to motivate people one way or the other with whatever is their agenda.

[Bishop Steiner]

Mirkk Defwode, on 22 May 2015 - 10:42 AM, said:

Agreed.

I was just saying that's some of the intent behind those statements is to motivate people one way or the other with whatever is their agenda.

sadly, people in general are enough lemmings, to be swayed by it, too. We saw that with how many people Vass and others led around like Pied Pipers back in the Beta days. Or the general level if imbecility on Reddit.