Roadkill, on 21 May 2015 - 04:22 PM, said:
Which refers specifically to the (P) variants, and only to the (P) variants.
As long as they don't try to sell those 6 Mechs again, we're fine.
Creating additional, new (P) variants is fine. Selling the non-(P) variants is fine. (They're already doing that for both c-bills and MC.)
In fact, if they gave me a 50% refund on my Phoenix purchase price, I'd then be fine with them selling the packs again. I get a deal for them changing the terms of the sale. I'd probably even be fine if that 50% refund came in the form of MC.
I understand that a lot of the Yes-men don't understand that the Phoenix pack's exclusivity was part of its value, but for a lot of people it was. An offer of compensation with tangible value, not some silly cockpit ornament that no one cares about, might have gone a long way toward changing the outcome of the vote.
1.) I actually very sincerely doubt that Piranha creating new (P) 'Mechs would fly, given how furiously the 'NO' votes have been castigating them for even asking the question. A Wasp/Pixhawk/Marauder/(whatever) pack labeled "Phoenix 2" would still be a Phoenix pack, would come with (P) variants, and would thusly be a breach of Piranha's agreement to never ever ever ever in a million billion trillion years sell Phoenix stuff again, would it not?
You guys have told them in no uncertain terms to never sell Phoenix
anything again. I'm pretty sure they've received the message loud and clear.
2.) The Phoenix pack's exclusivity is of very fiercely debatable value, as the very fierce debate surrounding it quite thoroughly proves. I can't quite believe that there are people out there who bought the Phoenix pack depsite hating every 'Mech in it, simply because those 'Mechs they hated were 'exclusive'. The value of the pack was supposed to be that you got a pretty stellar deal, by MWO pricing standards, on a set of 'Mechs that had until then been denied inclusion in any MechWarrior game to date. Except maybe MW1, I can't remember if that one made it in before the Unseen fracas went as nasty as it did.
Nevertheless! You maintain that the exclusivity of the Phoenix pack was its chief value and that breaking this exclusivity effectively voids the purchase of previous Phoenix holders, akin to outright stealing from them. I maintain that the 'exclusivity' of a bunch of digital goods which are by their nature infinitely replicable is of no true value whatsoever, and that trying to artificially inflate the value of the packs that way was a mistake.
If we all agree that it was a mistake, as Khobai states, then why can this mistake not be corrected? I suppose that's my thing - it was a mistake, we all know and agree it was a mistake, but ~54% of the population would rather rub their faces in that mistake and call them names over it than allow it to be corrected. It bothers me.
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