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[Haakon Magnusson]

cdlord, on 29 May 2015 - 05:30 AM, said:

In recognition of PGI's efforts to curb cheating, I just bought Wave 3 Gladiator and Resistance 2 Mauler packages. I now own the top tier of every package offered plus Saber/Sarah/Urbanmech as well as every Hero.

I am moderately termpted to go Resistance 2 as well... Mauler looks better King Crab than King Crab maybe I shouldn't

[KuroNyra]

Raggedyman, on 29 May 2015 - 03:53 AM, said:

Tru Fax: no person in the history of video-games has ever been doing the things they are accused of doing or actually responsible for the actions that took place on their account. It has, always and without doubt, either been an error on the part of the developers or something that someone else did and the player had no means of stopping.

[Dimento Graven]

Kristov Kerensky, on 29 May 2015 - 07:53 AM, said:

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I personally blame Bill Gates and Steve Jobs, their OS's allowed the masses to use a computer without knowing what the hell they were doing.

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Man this is a WHOLE other thread, because I am in complete disagreement with you. The fact that it no longer requires 'specialized' knowledge to run a computer is precisely the reason why games like MWO are possible. Without computers being accessible, and more specifically USABLE, to the general paying public there'd be absolutely ZERO market for things like this.

[Burktross]

Dimento Graven, on 29 May 2015 - 08:16 AM, said:

Man this is a WHOLE other thread, because I am in complete disagreement with you. The fact that it no longer requires 'specialized' knowledge to run a computer is precisely the reason why games like MWO are possible. Without computers being accessible, and more specifically USABLE, to the general paying public there'd be absolutely ZERO market for things like this.

Its give and take. We'll never win! One side makes some users nigh incompetent and unable to even make new folders, the other alienates many people.

If you ask me, Microsoft should just include an ¨advanced overview¨ with windows that teaches basics about Command Prompt, safe mode, virus removal, registry editting, and keeping your system secure.

[Dimento Graven]

Burktross, on 29 May 2015 - 08:20 AM, said:

Its give and take. We'll never win! One side makes some users nigh incompetent and unable to even make new folders, the other alienates many people.

If you ask me, Microsoft should just include an ¨advanced overview¨ with windows that teaches basics about Command Prompt, safe mode, virus removal, registry editting, and keeping your system secure.

There's more than enough stuff out there on the net like that now, OR, you could rely on software written by experts to do all that for you...

[DaZur]

Dimento Graven, on 29 May 2015 - 08:16 AM, said:

Man this is a WHOLE other thread, because I am in complete disagreement with you. The fact that it no longer requires 'specialized' knowledge to run a computer is precisely the reason why games like MWO are possible. Without computers being accessible, and more specifically USABLE, to the general paying public there'd be absolutely ZERO market for things like this.

Meh... I liked it better when I was considered a "computer wizard" because I ran DR-DOS and was able to configure my extended memory to gain an additional 3k that all my geeky friends couldn't do with MS-DOS.

[CDLord HHGD]

DaZur, on 29 May 2015 - 08:28 AM, said:

Meh... I liked it better when I was considered a "computer wizard" because I ran DR-DOS and was able to configure my extended memory to gain an additional 3k that all my geeky friends couldn't do with MS-DOS.

I counted it a personal victory when I figured out how to tell Windows 7 to take the "trusted installer" bullsh*t and shove it where the sun don't shine.....

[Dimento Graven]

DaZur, on 29 May 2015 - 08:28 AM, said:

Meh... I liked it better when I was considered a "computer wizard" because I ran DR-DOS and was able to configure my extended memory to gain an additional 3k that all my geeky friends couldn't do with MS-DOS.

HAH! Little did they know they COULD do it with MS-DOS, it was just required appropriate configuration of the CONFIG.SYS to make it available.

[DaZur]

cdlord, on 29 May 2015 - 08:30 AM, said:

I counted it a personal victory when I figured out how to tell Windows 7 to take the "trusted installer" bullsh*t and shove it where the sun don't shine.....

My piece de resistance was figuring out how to run 4 different OS' on the same partition...

[CDLord HHGD]

DaZur, on 29 May 2015 - 08:33 AM, said:

My piece de resistance was figuring out how to run 4 different OS' on the same partition...

Buddy of mine in college got XP to be USB drive bootable.... He used it to hack and take over our instructor's PC (it was a PC security class). I guess it technically was homework so he didn't lie...

[Joseph Mallan]

DaZur, on 29 May 2015 - 08:33 AM, said:

My piece de resistance was figuring out how to run 4 different OS' on the same partition...

Only story I have like this is it took the combined effort of my wife and daughter(age 5) to accidently partition our Apple and lock us out of the operating system somehow!

[Catra Lanis]

Recognize a few names but they didn't look special to me, average players but maybe they didn't cheat in those matches. I am a bit surprised by McCarron since she doesn't fit the "psychological profile".

In other games SWG for example the cheaters were found among the hard core pvpers. A lot of people just did pve and RP, others did that but also pvp on a casual basis. The common denominator was that to them it was playing around in the SW universe that counted, they didn't care about loosing so they had no reason to cheat. I got the impression that McCarron was in that category. RP, writing about the Battletech universe etc.

Edited by Catra Lanis, 29 May 2015 - 09:08 AM.

[Dimento Graven]

Catra Lanis, on 29 May 2015 - 08:54 AM, said:

Recognize a few names but they didn't look special to me, average players but maybe they didn't cheat in those matches. I am a bit surprised by McCarron since she doesn't fit the "psychological profile".

In other games SWG for example the cheaters were found among the hard core pvpers. A lot of people just did pve and RP, others did that but also pvp on a casual basis. The common denominator was that to them it was playing around in the SW universe that counted, they didn't care about loosing so they had no reason to cheat. I got the impression that McCarron was in that category. RP, writing about the Battletech universe etc.

Some people hate to lose.

I am in that category, I'm WELL into that category. Losing is NOT something I take well and it infuriates me.

Gamer rage is what the term is probably called.

Some people hate losing enough to try any means possible to avoid it, going so far as to cheat.

[CDLord HHGD]

Dimento Graven, on 29 May 2015 - 09:22 AM, said:

Some people hate to lose.

I am in that category, I'm WELL into that category. Losing is NOT something I take well and it infuriates me.

Gamer rage is what the term is probably called.

Some people hate losing enough to try any means possible to avoid it, going so far as to cheat.

I accept that I get my butt kicked on occasion, and probably more so. But when I get into 10-20 match losing streaks, or can't seem to win in a PUG match ever... I get frustrated. Keep telling myself my elo will eventually even out.

[Catra Lanis]

Dimento Graven, on 29 May 2015 - 09:22 AM, said:

Some people hate to lose.

I am in that category, I'm WELL into that category. Losing is NOT something I take well and it infuriates me.

Gamer rage is what the term is probably called.

Some people hate losing enough to try any means possible to avoid it, going so far as to cheat.

Nobody LIKES to loose, it's just a matter of degree but those who hate to loose and cheat have still lost. A win achieved by cheating isn't a win, it doesn't count. It's null and void.

Edited by Catra Lanis, 29 May 2015 - 09:48 AM.

[Bilbo]

Catra Lanis, on 29 May 2015 - 09:48 AM, said:

Nobody LIKES to loose, it's just a matter of degree but those who hate to loose and cheat have still lost. A win achieved by cheating isn't a win, it doesn't count. It's null and void.

Except in the mind of those who do the cheating apparently.

[Joseph Mallan]

Bilbo, on 29 May 2015 - 09:50 AM, said:

Except in the mind of those who do the cheating apparently.

well there is the saying, 'If you aren't cheating, you aren't trying.'

[Bilbo]

Joseph Mallan, on 29 May 2015 - 09:54 AM, said:

well there is the saying, 'If you aren't cheating, you aren't trying.'

Horrible saying in my opinion.

[Joseph Mallan]

Bilbo, on 29 May 2015 - 09:55 AM, said:

Horrible saying in my opinion.

That isn't a happy face after it Bilbo.

[Kristov Kerensky]

Dimento Graven, on 29 May 2015 - 08:16 AM, said:

Man this is a WHOLE other thread, because I am in complete disagreement with you. The fact that it no longer requires 'specialized' knowledge to run a computer is precisely the reason why games like MWO are possible. Without computers being accessible, and more specifically USABLE, to the general paying public there'd be absolutely ZERO market for things like this.

Small problem with that, MW2 was created when you had to know what you were doing to use a computer and it was the best selling of all the MW titles to date. Computer games were a big market when computers weren't real user friendly, because computer users generally had more money to spend on their toys. We paid thousands to get those computers even when we built them ourselves, so spending money on games, not a problem, after all, we'd already invested thousands, might as well get use out of that money!

Making computers user friendly was one thing, but Gates and Jobs made them idiot friendly, and that's another thing entirely. The frisbee thing and coffee cup holder, I didn't make those up, those are the terms I've heard time and time again doing IT support over the past 2 decades from users. I had one lady request a new gas peddle, her's was broken. After questioning her a bit I realized she was talking about the mouse, which she had put on the floor and was stamping on to make the computer go faster. Anyone who's done support can tell you much the same stories, idiots were able to get computers to work and it's been downhill every since. You want to know why computer games are getting dumbed down? It's because the USERS are dumber, so the software has to be made idiot friendly. MW2 was a complicated game, lots of stuff to learn and understand, it took time to get into it, much less get good. MW3 was simplified a bit, not much, and it didn't do well. MW4 was idiot friendly, did better than MW3 on sales, but never came close to MW2's numbers. So...are you so sure that making computers idiot friendly and dumbing down games was a good idea?