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#1 ClanKiller

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Posted 08 August 2015 - 07:57 AM

Anyone else think the Arctic Cheetah takes less damage than it should from weapons? Reminds me of Spiders back in the day.

I saw one that was shutdown take 2 Gauss and some other lasers and barely show any damage.

I don't care about the ECM or small pulse lasers, but I need the hitboxes to work.

#2 Greenjulius

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Posted 08 August 2015 - 08:01 AM

Yeah, it's really frustrating to fight them. On par with FS9s. They are so easy to pilot that my Prime has a 7.5 KDR.

The only way to take them down is the legs. If they twist, you'll never get them on a CT/2xST kill.

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Posted 08 August 2015 - 08:03 AM

They are kinda hard to kill.

#4 Scandinavian Jawbreaker

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Posted 08 August 2015 - 08:06 AM

It still has legs that pop. Shoot them.

#5 MechWarrior849305

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Posted 08 August 2015 - 08:10 AM

View Postugrakarma, on 08 August 2015 - 08:06 AM, said:

It still has legs that pop. Shoot them.

That's just logic. Never ever use logic playing MWO! Never ever dare!!! -_-

#6 Steve Pryde

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Posted 08 August 2015 - 08:28 AM

Sh00t t3h l3Gs

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#7 TercieI

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Posted 08 August 2015 - 08:40 AM

Clan XL light...shoot legs. They're easier to hit than a Firestarter's.

#8 Monkey Lover

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Posted 08 August 2015 - 08:44 AM

It has the same hitboxes as the crow :P

#9 Bulletsponge0

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Posted 08 August 2015 - 08:47 AM

View PostMonkey Lover, on 08 August 2015 - 08:44 AM, said:

It has the same hitboxes as the crow firestarter :P

fixed that for ya

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Posted 08 August 2015 - 08:51 AM

Wow people only starting realise why its called the Arctic Cheater.

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Posted 08 August 2015 - 08:52 AM

http://mwomercs.com/...of-nearly-7-10/

It's already been discussed in Patch Feedback.

This one is currently ongoing on Community Warfare

http://mwomercs.com/...81-the-cheetah/

I agree on the subject. However i think there should be looked into the hitboxes of the ST. It should need a slight rework. For the rest it's fine as it is.

Everyone aims for the legs because above the legs dont bother trying to hit it. It fails miserable to register damage.

Edited by Sarlic, 08 August 2015 - 09:05 AM.


#12 Monkey Lover

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Posted 08 August 2015 - 08:54 AM

View PostBulletsponge0, on 08 August 2015 - 08:47 AM, said:

fixed that for ya


firestarters? ya before they upgraded the hitreg now IS is running sniping lights :)

Only light with god like hitboxes right now is the arctic cheater . (i have them mastered by the way)

Edited by Monkey Lover, 08 August 2015 - 08:55 AM.


#13 Bulletsponge0

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Posted 08 August 2015 - 09:04 AM

View PostMonkey Lover, on 08 August 2015 - 08:54 AM, said:


firestarters? ya before they upgraded the hitreg now IS is running sniping lights :)

Only light with god like hitboxes right now is the arctic cheater . (i have them mastered by the way)

firestarters still shrug off damage like they always have...and those hit reg fixes have pretty much disappeared

#14 Coralld

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Posted 08 August 2015 - 09:14 AM

Agreed, the hit detection is rather bad, even shooting them in the legs isan't always reliable. A number of times I find that it takes 3x people to just leg the little bastages.

There were even several incidences where the Cheeta was legged and had its other leg cherry red and still survive against two blasts from 4x C-SRM4s and three bursts from 2x C-UAC5s.

I have the Cheeta and I have to say that they absorb way to much damage before going down.
Its clearly a hit detection issue

Edited by Coralld, 08 August 2015 - 09:15 AM.


#15 xMintaka

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Posted 08 August 2015 - 09:15 AM

It's a light. If you're not legging it, you are doing it wrong.

As a side note, it does seem to take damage quite well. I've stripped nearly a ton of armour from the top half of my -Prime and -B and they seem to take roughly the same amount of punishment before losing a torso as my FS9's.

People tend to aim for the LT to get rid of ECM, which on paper is a valid tactic. But why bother only removing the ECM (and two or three weapons) when you can just leg them and remove the entire mech.

#16 AssaultPig

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Posted 08 August 2015 - 09:15 AM

every time a new light gets released, the same 'are its hitboxes broken' threads start popping up

no, its hitboxes aren't broken and there's no reason to think so unless some actual primary testing gets posted.

HSR is not perfect; we know this and the speed of lights exacerbates the problem (especially this weekend, since many people are likely playing on higher-ping servers than they normally would.)

Edited by AssaultPig, 08 August 2015 - 09:16 AM.


#17 KHETTI

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Posted 08 August 2015 - 09:18 AM

View PostAssaultPig, on 08 August 2015 - 09:15 AM, said:

every time a new light gets released, the same 'are its hitboxes broken' threads start popping up

no, its hitboxes aren't broken and there's no reason to think so unless some actual primary testing gets posted.

HSR is not perfect; we know this and the speed of lights exacerbates the problem (especially this weekend, since many people are likely playing on higher-ping servers than they normally would.)

Same kind of post we saw when people complained about the early spiders hitboxes, yeah how did that turn out?.

#18 AssaultPig

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Posted 08 August 2015 - 09:20 AM

spider hitboxes weren't 'broken,' they were just too small (especially the legs), which got adjusted later. Their hitboxes are still kinda stupidly small imo, but that presumably is intentional

#19 JernauM

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Posted 08 August 2015 - 09:21 AM

Do you remember what server you were on when you experienced this? I have no issues hitting Cheetahs except on Oceanic, where I have been noticing some hit reg issues in general, not specific to any one mech.

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Posted 08 August 2015 - 09:22 AM

View PostClanKiller, on 08 August 2015 - 07:57 AM, said:

Anyone else think the Arctic Cheetah takes less damage than it should from weapons? Reminds me of Spiders back in the day.

I saw one that was shutdown take 2 Gauss and some other lasers and barely show any damage.

I don't care about the ECM or small pulse lasers, but I need the hitboxes to work.


Almost all the lights don't seem to take damage properly. I wish PGI would take a look at all the hitboxes on lights. Light pilots, imo, take advantage of it like an exploit...it's why lights brawl instead of doing what they were meant to do. Hopefully this rework PGI is doing for role warfare will stop that.





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