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[TWIAFU]

MaxFool, on 15 August 2015 - 06:49 PM, said:

That data is simply old. That's why I said "I wonder when was the last time you played CW". You think really think CW demographics is the same as it was two months ago, if that data was fresh even then? You are not in touch with reality with that 1% 12-man crap.

I take screenshots of every drop I make. I just counted my CW drops from this week. 19 drops, This was not a rant about unfair matches, this was a rant about repeating old statistics everywhere that has nothing to do with reality anymore.

Post those screenshots.

[Uncle Totty]

Chagatay, on 16 August 2015 - 11:38 AM, said:

I feel you are missing the point. I play games for fun. If you don't well.....I feel sorry for you.

Fun?! Fun has no place in video games! If you do not play to win, you are a loser! STOP PLAYING!

Edited by Nathan K, 16 August 2015 - 11:58 AM.

[Vlad Ward]

If there's anything I've gleaned from these boards in the past half decade, it's that getting your **** kicked in isn't fun.

It's incredible that there are still people out there who know why they're losing but have somehow deluded themselves into thinking that if they stubbornly refuse to improve their play style for long enough then PGI/Karma/The Universe will magically decide they were right all along and start letting them win sometime in the future.

[Triordinant]

Armando, on 16 August 2015 - 05:35 AM, said:

I was just thinking....what if PGI actually made a solo mode (a REAL solo mode) for the game?

They are. It's called Solaris 7 and it's coming soon. I hope it has 1 vs 1 matches with both players in 100% identical 'mechs down to the last point of armor and where it's located. That's where you'll see who really has skill and who doesn't. No tonnage advantage, no technological edge, no being carried by teammates. Pure skill.

[Vlad Ward]

Triordinant, on 16 August 2015 - 12:11 PM, said:

They are. It's called Solaris 7 and it's coming soon. I hope it has 1 vs 1 matches with both players in 100% identical 'mechs down to the last point of armor and where it's located. That's where you'll see who really has skill and who doesn't. No tonnage advantage, no technological edge, no being carried by teammates. Pure skill.

inb4 literally everyone on these boards freaks the **** out about tryhard millennial teenagers from steam doping on ritalin because that's the only way a 50 year old man could lose at an FPS.

Also Mechlab is 50% of any Mechwarrior game. There is no point in playing if you can't use custom robots. If one person's Mech happens to be ******** than another, then that is the nature of the beast.

Edited by Vlad Ward, 16 August 2015 - 12:15 PM.

[Aresye]

Nathan K, on 16 August 2015 - 11:58 AM, said:

Fun?! Fun has no place in video games! If you do not play to win, you are a loser! STOP PLAYING!

Well uh...yes.

It's a PvP game that's designed around absolutely no other objective than to win. If you aren't playing to win, then why are you playing a Win vs Lose PvP game? Seriously, I would like to know your answer, because essentially what you're doing is joining a football game simply to play catch, and annoying all the other people who want to...you know...actually play football.

[Triordinant]

Vlad Ward, on 16 August 2015 - 12:13 PM, said:

inb4 literally everyone on these boards freaks the **** out about tryhard millennial teenagers from steam doping on ritalin because that's the only way a 50 year old man could lose at an FPS.

Also Mechlab is 50% of any Mechwarrior game. There is no point in playing if you can't use custom robots. If one person's Mech happens to be ******** than another, then that is the nature of the beast.

Don't worry. It won't be the main game in MWO. It won't even be the main part of Solaris. However, it WILL be the final say when one player starts claiming to a better Mechwarrior than another.

[Vlad Ward]

Triordinant, on 16 August 2015 - 12:23 PM, said:

Don't worry. It won't be the main game in MWO. It won't even be the main part of Solaris. However, it WILL be the final say when one player starts claiming to a better Mechwarrior than another.

Why's that? This is a team game. As stupid as it is to even entertain the possibility of lending credence to those stubborn jackalopes who insist "Scouting" and "Fire Support" are real things in this game, there are important pilot attributes that can't be reliably determined in silly little duels.

I see it more as a way to let RP blowhards RP blow hard onto each other when they get all hot and bothered.

Also Clan Wolf. Yes. They may end up comprising 93% of the duel population.

[Templar Archangel]

Armando, on 09 August 2015 - 12:01 AM, said:

PGI lied to me...

I was told there was going to be community warfare, and it doesn't exist. Not when the game was released, not last week, not today, has NEVER happened.

What PGI laughably CALLS Community Warfare is really just a solo que where players get to drop in 4 mechs. I was TOLD that I was going to get a COMMUNITY of players, working together as a faction / mercenary units to fight against. I call BULLSH!T !!!!!

All I see, match after match, after match, after match is solo players in trials who can't break 100 damage using 4 mechs.

This brings be to the Topic Title:

SOLO PLAYERS SHOULD NEVER BE ABLE TO QUE FOR COMMUNITY WARFARE.

To say "A Solo Player participated in Community Warfare" is a text book example of an oxymoronic statement.

FACT: Solo players have a que to fight against other solo players already.
FACT: There is no game mode for only 12 man groups. (What COMMUNITY warfare should have been).

As long as a solo player can que for a 'community warfare' drop, there is no community warfare. PGI farked over every community of players (every unit in the game) by allowing solo players the OPTION to que for community warfare. PGI farked over every solo player in game by giving them a chance to que without a unit (If can do it, you should be able to...not solo players fault for attacking/defending solo....it should have never been an option).

TL:DR - Community Warfare should not be an option for solo players, No unit, no que option. Give solo players are REASON to join a 'community' (aka: Faction and or Unit) and play as a member of a GROUP. Fix community warfare....solo players have their que, 2-11 players have their ques, 12 mans should have our community warfare.

Thank you for your time.

- Armando

you need to take both the game and yourself a lot less seriously.

[Triordinant]

Vlad Ward, on 16 August 2015 - 12:36 PM, said:

Why's that? This is a team game.

That part of Solaris is NOT a team game. It exists solely to determine superiority in gunnery and piloting -and to gain fame and fortune for oneself and/or his dueling stable, just like in the Lore.

Edited by Triordinant, 16 August 2015 - 12:50 PM.

[h0U5e]

[Vlad Ward]

Triordinant, on 16 August 2015 - 12:47 PM, said:

That part of Solaris is NOT a team game. It exists solely to determine superiority in gunnery and piloting -and to gain fame and fortune for oneself and/or his dueling stable, just like in the Lore.

Fair enough. I did forget that part. My bad.

[Uncle Totty]

Aresye Kerensky, on 16 August 2015 - 12:22 PM, said:

Well uh...yes.

It's a PvP game that's designed around absolutely no other objective than to win. If you aren't playing to win, then why are you playing a Win vs Lose PvP game? Seriously, I would like to know your answer, because essentially what you're doing is joining a football game simply to play catch, and annoying all the other people who want to...you know...actually play football.

You look at it only as a PvP play to win game. I look at it as a MechWarrior (fighting for Clan Wolf) game.

Edited by Nathan K, 16 August 2015 - 12:54 PM.

[Vlad Ward]

Nathan K, on 16 August 2015 - 12:54 PM, said:

You look at it only as a PvP play to win game. I look at it as a MechWarrior (fighting for Clan Wolf) game.

Clan Wolf says some interesting things about winning. See my sig.

[Triordinant]

Nathan K, on 16 August 2015 - 12:54 PM, said:

You look at it only as a PvP play to win game. I look at it as a MechWarrior (fighting for Clan Wolf) game.

That was the original intention of this game, back when it was still Mechwarrior 5. Unfortunately, greedy investors could always find something else that was either safer or promised higher and faster returns than a Mechwarrior game so PGI couldn't get it funded. They had only 2 choices: shut down the project, or settle for a free-to-play first-person shooter in 'mechs with microtransactions instead of an actual Mechwarrior game. They chose the latter.

[Aresye]

Nathan K, on 16 August 2015 - 12:54 PM, said:

You look at it only as a PvP play to win game. I look at it as a MechWarrior (fighting for Clan Wolf) game.

I actually look at it as a Clanner of Clan Wolf, and I expect my Wolf brethren to be ferocious, terrifying, and successful in battle. All you have proven to me is that you are on the fast track to having your genetic lineage destroyed.

[McHoshi]

hmm often i drop solo into cw and every time i´ll do so i´ll have my fun and kills and cbills... so what?

CW is fun for me and i am happy ( fact )

[MaxFool]

TWIAFU, on 16 August 2015 - 11:52 AM, said:

Post those screenshots.

Do you actually doubt that I don't have those? I'm not going to bother to black out scores from 19 different matches just for you. Using MS paint is too hard. Posting 19 unedited screenshots would be bad manners, and would feel too much like stretching my epeen publicly.

But from people that have posted here in last couple of pages, against me in CW this week played at least Lhasa in MS 10-man on Tuesday night (only group in my team 4-man from TFDV, and we actually won) and Armando on MS 12-man on Friday (CWI 3-man my side, we lost). If they take screenshots they can check it.

Seriously, this very thread has several posters who do 12-man attacks all the time, yet you still claim that 12-man attacks are some sort of myth and rarity.

[Uncle Totty]

Aresye Kerensky, on 16 August 2015 - 02:05 PM, said:

I actually look at it as a Clanner of Clan Wolf, and I expect my Wolf brethren to be ferocious, terrifying, and successful in battle. All you have proven to me is that you are on the fast track to having your genetic lineage destroyed.

The word you are looking for here is "Clansmen".

[Armando]

MaxFool, on 16 August 2015 - 02:17 PM, said:

Do you actually doubt that I don't have those? I'm not going to bother to black out scores from 19 different matches just for you. Using MS paint is too hard. Posting 19 unedited screenshots would be bad manners, and would feel too much like stretching my epeen publicly.

But from people that have posted here in last couple of pages, against me in CW this week played at least Lhasa in MS 10-man on Tuesday night (only group in my team 4-man from TFDV, and we actually won) and Armando on MS 12-man on Friday (CWI 3-man my side, we lost). If they take screenshots they can check it.

Seriously, this very thread has several posters who do 12-man attacks all the time, yet you still claim that 12-man attacks are some sort of myth and rarity.

I can verify that MaxFool faced a group I was leading recently, he fought well and at the end of the match I saluted him and his teammates for their performance, effort, and time ( o7 ).