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[Viges]

Lasers are too good, they need to keep damage but increase duration on most of them, they not spreading damage at all nowadays.

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

xXBagheeraXx, on 10 August 2015 - 09:08 AM, said:

Illya Died man. XL's get popped to easily now. Rest her soul.

Shows you how long since I last played lol

[Ascaloth]

Big Tin Man, on 10 August 2015 - 09:08 AM, said:

I've won many staring contests in the 1N against KCG's and Direwolfs because of that flamer.

AWWW, your dual AC20's/Quad UAC10's made you really hot? Have some FLAMER.

It's quite common to see people going crazy and spraying & praying when the Dragon engage in a hail of bullets so, yes, flamers are quite handy to make them overheat (or self-destruct).
1337player: "Oh look, that Dragon haz flamorz, is it a troll or a n00b?"
DAKKADAKKADAKKADAKKA
1337player:"WTFOMGIZSHOOTINGMEHELPHELP"
dakkaFUSHHHHHHDAKKAdakkaDAKKAFUSHHHHdakka
1337player:"HELPPPIMMOVERTEATINGAHMAYGOD"
Dragon killed 1337player
1337player(Dead): "Damn this cheesy dragon!!"

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

Viges, on 10 August 2015 - 09:15 AM, said:

Lasers are too good, they need to keep damage but increase duration on most of them, they not spreading damage at all nowadays.

Lasers are what you get when you make everything else not as good

[IronLichRich]

Clan: Timber Wolf, with Hellbringer probably being better in CW.

Inner Sphere: Whichever TDR has all of the wubs probably.

[FupDup]

Mechwarrior Buddah, on 10 August 2015 - 09:16 AM, said:

Lasers are what you get when you make everything else not as good

PPCs were able to compete against lasers pretty well when the Clans first landed...but then they got their velocity meganerfed due to the 2 ERPPC + 2 Gauss Daishi, and then laser vomit took over. Since IS ACs were usually used in conjunction with PPCs, they were indirectly nerfed in the process.

Then we have LRMs that are...LRMs, and SRMs that are viable but require super short range.

Gauss however still makes a very nice companion for lasers because its velocity syncs well with them and they have no heat (which offsets the higher heat of pewpews).

[MeiSooHaityu]

xXBagheeraXx, on 10 August 2015 - 09:08 AM, said:

Illya Died man. XL's get popped to easily now. Rest her soul.

Running XL in an Ilya is your first problem .

STD Engine (72kph), 3 A/C5s and 3 MLasers (A/C5 cooldown quirk (7.5 I think) with A/C5 Cool down Module. Its a bunch of win .

Now, I wouldn't say it is contention for the best IS Heavy, but it isn't a good idea to underestimate it either.

[Big Tin Man]

Ascaloth, on 10 August 2015 - 09:16 AM, said:

It's quite common to see people going crazy and spraying & praying when the Dragon engage in a hail of bullets so, yes, flamers are quite handy to make them overheat (or self-destruct).
1337player: "Oh look, that Dragon haz flamorz, is it a troll or a n00b?"
DAKKADAKKADAKKADAKKA
1337player:"WTFOMGIZSHOOTINGMEHELPHELP"
dakkaFUSHHHHHHDAKKAdakkaDAKKAFUSHHHHdakka
1337player:"HELPPPIMMOVERTEATINGAHMAYGOD"
Dragon killed 1337player
1337player(Dead): "Damn this cheesy dragon!!"

Then in all chat:

BIG TIN MAN> HA HA, Trogdor stirkes again. TROGDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORRRR

[Big Tin Man]

Gas Guzzler, on 10 August 2015 - 09:13 AM, said:

The real issue is in the lack of worthwhile quirks.

You know which other mech's didn't get great quirks?
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Timber Wolf and Stormcrow. That means they suck and you should sell them

[Juodas Varnas]

Big Tin Man, on 10 August 2015 - 09:25 AM, said:

You know which other mech's didn't get great quirks?
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Timber Wolf and Stormcrow. That means they suck and you should sell them

They don't need them
They have Clan tech which is USUALLY much better than anything quirks can offer.

[Ascaloth]

Big Tin Man, on 10 August 2015 - 09:22 AM, said:

Then in all chat:

BIG TIN MAN> HA HA, Trogdor stirkes again. TROGDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORRRR

Oh boy, we need to drop these Dragons together sometime
Vaporize EVERYTHING!!

[Big Tin Man]

Ascaloth, on 10 August 2015 - 09:27 AM, said:

Oh boy, we need to drop these Dragons together sometime
Burninate EVERYTHING!!

FIFY.

Drop by the C4 recruiting thread over in the Dav recruiting page. Tell them you need to be a part of DRAGON LANCE and that Big Tin sent you. Yes, this is a thing over there that happens regularly. 3 Dragon 1N's with flamers, 12 kills. Much lamentation.

[Gas Guzzler]

Big Tin Man, on 10 August 2015 - 09:25 AM, said:

You know which other mech's didn't get great quirks?
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Timber Wolf and Stormcrow. That means they suck and you should sell them

Yeah because unquirked Grasshopper is on par with a Timber Wolf.

[Richter Kerensky]

Best IS heavy: TDR-9SE. Durable, low heat generation, good weapon hardpoints, jumpjets, reasonably fast, excellent poking mech. Honorable mention to the TDR-5SS (thunderwub build, shreds most other mechs at close range and can still deal okay damage at medium range).
Best Clan heavy: I think everyone already knows the answer to this question.

Edited by Richter Kerensky, 10 August 2015 - 09:35 AM.

[Ultimax]

Gas Guzzler, on 10 August 2015 - 09:13 AM, said:

Ironically in the comp match quoted in this thread, the only IS heavy was a quad ER LL QuickDraw.

Was it a 5K?

The 5K is one of those quiet sleeper mechs no one really talks about

[Gas Guzzler]

Ultimatum X, on 10 August 2015 - 09:43 AM, said:

Was it a 5K?

The 5K is one of those quiet sleeper mechs no one really talks about

Yeah, EmP had one of those. I only saw the first two matches and I don't think they used it in the first one, only the second which was a tonnage limit drop. Not sure if they used it in the other 3 matches.

[xXBagheeraXx]

Big Tin Man, on 10 August 2015 - 09:22 AM, said:

Then in all chat:

BIG TIN MAN> HA HA, Trogdor stirkes again. TROGDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORRRR

This is why Ive begun shooting dragons first over assault mechs...right there....

Overquirked BS >.>

[Big Tin Man]

Gas Guzzler, on 10 August 2015 - 09:32 AM, said:

Yeah because unquirked Grasshopper is on par with a Timber Wolf.

Yeah, I get it. Now how many IS mechs in this thread are being held up SOLELY because of their great quirks, and who are the underdogs, that are still damn good mechs despite their lack of quirks? Thunderbolt and Dragons were absolute tier 5 trash before quirks, and Paul can send them back to the trash heap any time he wants to.

I'm looking at you Grasshopper & Cataphract. After the quirkening 2.0, we can come back and discuss who is still standing. They're good mechs that can still pull more than their share TODAY. Not Timbergods, but not artificially placed on a pedestal either.

[Juodas Varnas]

Mister D, on 10 August 2015 - 09:56 AM, said:

For Clan?
Its hard to say, but Timberwolf and EbonJag I would put on top, closely followed by CauldronBorn.
They're all top tier, maybe of the entire game's worth of mechs.

But Ebon Jaguar IS the Cauldron Born.

Hahaha. "IS", you know? Because IS name for Ebon Jaguar is Cauldron Born?

Edited by Juodas Varnas, 10 August 2015 - 09:59 AM.

[FupDup]

Juodas Varnas, on 10 August 2015 - 09:58 AM, said:

But Ebon Jaguar IS the Cauldron Born.

Hahaha. "IS", you know? Because IS name for Ebon Jaguar is Cauldron Born?

He probably meant to say the Hellbringer/Loki.