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#1 Mechwarrior Buddah

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Posted 31 August 2015 - 02:39 PM

cause once they get nerfed noone will know hat to do lol

#2 Champion of Khorne Lord of Blood

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Posted 31 August 2015 - 02:42 PM

To be honest I don't know what to do with it even now. I'm mostly an assault and heavy pilot, not quite sure what to do with the ACH most of the time. It also seems whenever I battle another light mech with it I die horribly. It is pretty good at ripping up dire wolves though.

#3 Rhaythe

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Posted 31 August 2015 - 02:49 PM

Everyone screams and howls for lights to get nerfed to kingdom come, but oh boy do people complain as soon as a heavy or assault gets slightly nudged down a peg.

#4 Saint Scarlett Johan

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Posted 31 August 2015 - 02:49 PM

View PostMechwarrior Buddah, on 31 August 2015 - 02:39 PM, said:

cause once they get nerfed noone will know hat to do lol


Depending on the level of nerfs, most of us will likely just go back to Firestarters.

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Posted 31 August 2015 - 02:53 PM

View PostRhaythe, on 31 August 2015 - 02:49 PM, said:

Everyone screams and howls for lights to get nerfed to kingdom come, but oh boy do people complain as soon as a heavy or assault gets slightly nudged down a peg.

Yeah, ridiculous. And lights already being the most least used weight class in the game. Reading the forums they should be invincible killing machines with OP weapons and lag shields that dodge everything while just running in front of enemy team. And yet the light queue is often at 10%...

#6 CDLord HHGD

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Posted 31 August 2015 - 02:53 PM

Mine was a struggle. I finally settles on small lasers and mastered it as fast as I could Now it sits in my clan garage and it'll stay there except for special occasions.

#7 Gas Guzzler

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Posted 31 August 2015 - 02:56 PM

I just think it shouldn't have more leg hit points than a Firestarter, in the interest of balance.

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Posted 31 August 2015 - 02:56 PM

BTW Buddah... Y u spam topics with pretty much 1 sentence content in them

#9 CDLord HHGD

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Posted 31 August 2015 - 02:57 PM

View Postugrakarma, on 31 August 2015 - 02:56 PM, said:

BTW Buddah... Y u spam topics with pretty much 1 sentence content in them

Good. I hate reading novels. :D

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Posted 31 August 2015 - 02:57 PM

View PostLord Scarlett Johan, on 31 August 2015 - 02:49 PM, said:


Depending on the level of nerfs, most of us will likely just go back to Firestarters.


What kind of hellish nerf can negate an ECM suit and a Clan XL + a slightly smaller chassis to warrant going back to FS9?

#11 Andi Nagasia

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Posted 31 August 2015 - 02:59 PM

Give me the DWF-T(Taz)= Solaris7 Tech2(3050) Tournament Legal Mech,
i will never Complain about Light Mechs again, Never Ever, :)

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Posted 31 August 2015 - 03:01 PM

View PostMechwarrior Buddah, on 31 August 2015 - 02:39 PM, said:

cause once they get nerfed noone will know what to do lol


Simple. Paint them annoying colours, put on an annoying warhorn, run around assaults and slaughter them. Much like now, only it'll take more effort to avoid fire.

It's a light. Unless PGI give it massive negative quirks, it's still going to end up on the good end of the lightscales. ECM, JJ's and lots of E points pretty much guarantee that.

#13 Saint Scarlett Johan

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Posted 31 August 2015 - 03:06 PM

View PostDAYLEET, on 31 August 2015 - 02:57 PM, said:


What kind of hellish nerf can negate an ECM suit and a Clan XL + a slightly smaller chassis to warrant going back to FS9?


The same kind that people raged about with the Timberwolves and Stormcrows.

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Posted 31 August 2015 - 03:12 PM

Rumour has it that only the quirks will go.

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Posted 31 August 2015 - 03:13 PM

View PostLord Scarlett Johan, on 31 August 2015 - 03:06 PM, said:


The same kind that people raged about with the Timberwolves and Stormcrows.


So a slight nerf to energy weapon that will eventually be reverted? The light queue went from 7% to 20% with the ACH, that 13% of pilots dont belong in the light queue so they won't be going away to the FS9, they will be going back to the TBR and SCR. Ive never seen a game where something op getting taken away from unsuspecting kids without a meltdown so carry on, bath in the tears and enjoy the salt.

Edited by DAYLEET, 31 August 2015 - 03:14 PM.


#16 Saint Scarlett Johan

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Posted 31 August 2015 - 03:16 PM

View PostDAYLEET, on 31 August 2015 - 03:13 PM, said:


So a slight nerf to energy weapon that will eventually be reverted? The light queue went from 7% to 20% with the ACH, that 13% of pilots dont belong in the light queue so they won't be going away to the FS9, they will be going back to the TBR and SCR. Ive never seen a game where something op getting taken away from unsuspecting kids without a meltdown so carry on, bath in the tears and enjoy the salt.


Well I'll be going back to the FS9.

Also, there will be a meltdown and it will be glorious.

#17 Soy

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Posted 31 August 2015 - 03:16 PM

duh

#18 Chuck Jager

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Posted 31 August 2015 - 03:24 PM

I see the non quirked csmplas and cXL as big time benefits for the ach.
My smplas firestater has a higher kdr than the mplas, but the win loss is lower because I pay a cost whenever I have to engage to do damage and the team is a million miles away. The extended range lets them be far enough away to bridge the gap between them and their team more effectively and do more damage effectively. Pulse lasers also still register more effectively than standard hit scan. The clan weapons are hotter technically but the range, weight and damage bonus outweighs the heat.

I have found that the clan UACs and CAP modules make them tend to run away and look for other targets, and I do not have to have streak boat specific build. The IS alpha to speed ratio tends to work out in a way that enough firepower means to slow to turn or disengage or to much time between shots. Of course Firestarters and Thunderbolts and some other builds do a lot better.

I think removing the leg quirks would be a good place for a wait and see. I am also fine with PGI making some cash and waiting until the cbill release while they "gather data".

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Posted 31 August 2015 - 03:30 PM

You're allowed to call it a crutch when you stop using LRM based builds and actually play lights yourself.

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Posted 31 August 2015 - 03:31 PM

View PostMechwarrior Buddah, on 31 August 2015 - 02:39 PM, said:

cause once they get nerfed noone will know hat to do lol

Not sure I know what the point of this thread is making. Why did you make this post Mr. Buddah?





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