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#141 FupDup

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Posted 11 September 2015 - 11:48 AM

View PostGas Guzzler, on 11 September 2015 - 11:45 AM, said:

How bout the good old Executioner, and the Mauler for that matter. It's quirks were pretty nice, if it lost its weapon quirks... lame.

Sorry Fup, I am a couple hours away from looking at the files myself. If only they would release the list...

Exe is here:

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Mauler appears to be unchanged...that might be an oversight.

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Posted 11 September 2015 - 11:49 AM

View PostJman5, on 11 September 2015 - 11:47 AM, said:

The real question we'll have to see is how Clan vs IS balance pans out from these changes. When one side has access to gear and upgrades that are just plain better, something has to give.


Crow got hit with -50 Degs of torso twist (80*1.2?) and -35% Twist Speed, which is most certainly not insignificant...but I didn't read the weapon quirks, it probably retained some NegaQuirks from last pass, if the Timby did as well.



Tell us, Mr Garden, are we missing something? We see you seeing us.

Edited by Mcgral18, 11 September 2015 - 11:50 AM.


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Posted 11 September 2015 - 11:50 AM

View PostFupDup, on 11 September 2015 - 11:43 AM, said:

Well, I left out the sensor quirks. For example, here is the Urbie R63:

  <QuirkList>
	<Quirk name="heatloss_multiplier" value="0.05" />
	<Quirk name="targetscantime_long_multiplier" value="-0.2" />
	<Quirk name="targetacquisitiondelay_additive" value="3" />
  </QuirkList>


Yup, that's it.

I REALLY hope we're missing something.



How do you manage to read the IS mechs.. can't seem to get any files to open <-<

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Posted 11 September 2015 - 11:51 AM

Oh and someone was right, the new mechs Quirks havent been released. I thought the Blackknight, Crab and the Loyalty mechs had their quirks released.

Meh bad.

View PostKira_Onime, on 11 September 2015 - 11:50 AM, said:



How do you manage to read the IS mechs.. can't seem to get any files to open <-<



Open the .paks with winzip or winrar or the like, open the .mdf files for each variant with wordpad or notepad, or use the compressors "view file" feature.

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Posted 11 September 2015 - 11:52 AM

View PostKraftySOT, on 11 September 2015 - 11:51 AM, said:

Open the .paks with winzip or winrar or the like, open the .mdf files for each variant with wordpad or notepad, or use the compressors "view file" feature.



Damn it here I was trying to mount images 'n ****.

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Posted 11 September 2015 - 11:52 AM

View PostFupDup, on 11 September 2015 - 11:48 AM, said:

Exe is here:

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	  <Quirk name="torsospeed_yaw_multiplier" value="0.075" />
	  <Quirk name="internalresist_lt_additive" value="20" />
	  <Quirk name="targetscantime_short_multiplier" value="-1" />
	  <Quirk name="targetscantime_medium_multiplier" value="-0.33" />
	  <Quirk name="targetscantime_long_multiplier" value="-0.2" />
	  <Quirk name="targetretentiontime_additive" value="2" />
	  <Quirk name="targetacquisitiondelay_additive" value="-1" />
	</component>
	<component name="right_torso">
	  <Hardpoint ID="13" Type="0" lookAim="0" />
	  <Quirk name="torsoangle_yaw_additive" value="10" />
	  <Quirk name="torsospeed_yaw_multiplier" value="0.05" />
	  <Quirk name="accellerp_all_multiplier" value="0.1" />
	  <Quirk name="decellerp_all_multiplier" value="-0.05" />
	  <Quirk name="turnlerp_all_multiplier" value="0.05" />
	  <Quirk name="targetscantime_short_multiplier" value="-0.5" />
	  <Quirk name="targetscantime_medium_multiplier" value="-0.165" />
	  <Quirk name="targetscantime_long_multiplier" value="-0.1" />
	  <Quirk name="targetretentiontime_additive" value="1.25" />
	</component>
	<component name="right_arm">
	  <Hardpoint ID="33" Type="1" lookAim="1" />
	  <Internal ItemID="1910" Toggleable="1" />
	  <Quirk name="torsoangle_yaw_additive" value="-10" />
	  <Quirk name="torsospeed_yaw_multiplier" value="-0.025" />
	  <Quirk name="targetretentiontime_additive" value="0.5" />
	</component>
	<component name="left_leg">
	  <Quirk name="accellerp_all_multiplier" value="0.1" />
	  <Quirk name="decellerp_all_multiplier" value="0.1" />
	</component>
	<component name="right_leg">
	  <Quirk name="accellerp_all_multiplier" value="0.1" />
	  <Quirk name="decellerp_all_multiplier" value="0.1" />
	</component>
  </Set>
  <Set name="exe-b">
	<SetBonuses>
	  <Bonus PieceCount="8">
		<Quirk name="xpbonus_multiplier" value="0.025" />
	  </Bonus>
	</SetBonuses>
	<component name="head">
	  <Quirk name="targetretentiontime_additive" value="1" />
	  <Quirk name="targetacquisitiondelay_additive" value="-0.5" />
	</component>
	<component name="centre_torso">
	  <Quirk name="torsoangle_yaw_additive" value="-20" />
	  <Quirk name="torsospeed_yaw_multiplier" value="-0.35" />
	  <Quirk name="turnlerp_all_multiplier" value="-0.3" />
	  <Quirk name="targetscantime_short_multiplier" value="3" />
	  <Quirk name="targetscantime_medium_multiplier" value="0.5" />
	  <Quirk name="targetscantime_long_multiplier" value="0.25" />
	  <Quirk name="targetretentiontime_additive" value="-2" />
	  <Quirk name="targetacquisitiondelay_additive" value="4" />
	</component>
	<component name="left_arm">
	  <Hardpoint ID="40" Type="0" lookAim="1" />
	  <Quirk name="internalresist_la_additive" value="32" />
	  <Quirk name="targetscantime_short_multiplier" value="-1.5" />
	  <Quirk name="targetscantime_medium_multiplier" value="-0.5" />
	  <Quirk name="targetscantime_long_multiplier" value="-0.2" />
	  <Quirk name="targetretentiontime_additive" value="3" />
	  <Quirk name="targetacquisitiondelay_additive" value="-1" />
	</component>
	<component name="left_torso">
	  <Quirk name="torsoangle_yaw_additive" value="10" />
	  <Quirk name="torsospeed_yaw_multiplier" value="3" />
	  <Quirk name="accellerp_all_multiplier" value="0.075" />
	  <Quirk name="decellerp_all_multiplier" value="0.075" />
	  <Quirk name="turnlerp_all_multiplier" value="0.2" />
	  <Quirk name="internalresist_lt_additive" value="20" />
	</component>
	<component name="right_torso">
	  <Hardpoint ID="11" Type="1" lookAim="0" />
	  <Hardpoint ID="10" Type="4" lookAim="0" />
	  <Quirk name="torsoangle_yaw_additive" value="10" />
	  <Quirk name="torsospeed_yaw_multiplier" value="0.05" />
	  <Quirk name="internalresist_rt_additive" value="10" />
	  <Quirk name="targetscantime_short_multiplier" value="-0.5" />
	  <Quirk name="targetscantime_medium_multiplier" value="-0.165" />
	</component>
	<component name="right_arm">
	  <Hardpoint ID="31" Type="1" lookAim="1" />
	  <Quirk name="torsoangle_yaw_additive" value="10" />
	  <Quirk name="torsospeed_yaw_multiplier" value="0.05" />
	  <Quirk name="internalresist_ra_additive" value="16" />
	  <Quirk name="targetscantime_short_multiplier" value="-1" />
	  <Quirk name="targetscantime_medium_multiplier" value="-0.33" />
	  <Quirk name="targetscantime_long_multiplier" value="-0.2" />
	  <Quirk name="targetretentiontime_additive" value="2" />
	  <Quirk name="targetacquisitiondelay_additive" value="-1" />
	</component>
	<component name="left_leg">
	  <Quirk name="turnlerp_all_multiplier" value="0.2" />
	</component>
	<component name="right_leg">
	  <Quirk name="turnlerp_all_multiplier" value="0.2" />
	</component>
  </Set>
  <Set name="exe-d">
	<SetBonuses>
	  <Bonus PieceCount="8">
		<Quirk name="xpbonus_multiplier" value="0.025" />
	  </Bonus>
	</SetBonuses>
	<component name="head">
	  <Quirk name="targetscantime_short_multiplier" value="-1" />
	  <Quirk name="targetscantime_medium_multiplier" value="-0.33" />
	  <Quirk name="targetscantime_long_multiplier" value="-0.2" />
	</component>
	<component name="centre_torso">
	  <Quirk name="torsospeed_yaw_multiplier" value="-0.05" />
	  <Quirk name="accellerp_all_multiplier" value="-0.6" />
	  <Quirk name="decellerp_all_multiplier" value="-0.3" />
	  <Quirk name="turnlerp_all_multiplier" value="0.2" />
	  <Quirk name="targetscantime_short_multiplier" value="4" />
	  <Quirk name="targetscantime_medium_multiplier" value="0.825" />
	  <Quirk name="targetscantime_long_multiplier" value="0.25" />
	  <Quirk name="targetretentiontime_additive" value="-2" />
	  <Quirk name="targetacquisitiondelay_additive" value="5" />
	</component>
	<component name="left_arm">
	  <Hardpoint ID="43" Type="2" lookAim="1" />
	  <Internal ItemID="1910" Toggleable="1" />
	  <Internal ItemID="1911" Toggleable="1" />
	  <Quirk name="torsoangle_yaw_additive" value="10" />
	  <Quirk name="torsospeed_yaw_multiplier" value="0.1" />
	  <Quirk name="targetretentiontime_additive" value="1" />
	  <Quirk name="targetacquisitiondelay_additive" value="-1" />
	</component>
	<component name="left_torso">
	  <Hardpoint ID="20" Type="1" lookAim="0" />
	  <Quirk name="torsoangle_yaw_additive" value="5" />
	  <Quirk name="torsospeed_yaw_multiplier" value="-0.1" />
	  <Quirk name="accellerp_all_multiplier" value="0.3" />
	  <Quirk name="decellerp_all_multiplier" value="0.3" />
	  <Quirk name="turnlerp_all_multiplier" value="-0.2" />
	  <Quirk name="targetretentiontime_additive" value="2" />
	  <Quirk name="targetacquisitiondelay_additive" value="-1" />
	</component>
	<component name="right_torso">
	  <Hardpoint ID="12" Type="1" lookAim="0" />
	  <Quirk name="torsoangle_yaw_additive" value="-10" />
	  <Quirk name="targetscantime_short_multiplier" value="-0.5" />
	  <Quirk name="targetscantime_medium_multiplier" value="-0.165" />
	  <Quirk name="targetscantime_long_multiplier" value="-0.1" />
	</component>
	<component name="right_arm">
	  <Hardpoint ID="34" Type="1" lookAim="1" />
	  <Quirk name="torsoangle_yaw_additive" value="-10" />
	  <Quirk name="internalresist_ra_additive" value="16" />
	  <Quirk name="targetscantime_short_multiplier" value="1" />
	  <Quirk name="targetscantime_medium_multiplier" value="0.33" />
	  <Quirk name="targetscantime_long_multiplier" value="0.2" />
	  <Quirk name="targetretentiontime_additive" value="-3" />
	  <Quirk name="targetacquisitiondelay_additive" value="2.5" />
	</component>
	<component name="left_leg">
	  <Quirk name="accellerp_all_multiplier" value="0.2" />
	</component>
	<component name="right_leg">
	  <Quirk name="accellerp_all_multiplier" value="0.2" />
	</component>
  </Set>
</OmniPods>


Mauler appears to be unchanged...that might be an oversight.


Wow, I am seeing agility nerfs on the D-torsos. Seriously.....

I was actually expecting it to get a buff.

Edited by Gas Guzzler, 11 September 2015 - 11:55 AM.


#147 Phailwhale

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Posted 11 September 2015 - 11:52 AM

View PostFupDup, on 11 September 2015 - 11:45 AM, said:

Here are your new quirks:

<QuirkList>
	<Quirk name="torsoangle_yaw_additive" value="-10" />
	<Quirk name="torsospeed_yaw_multiplier" value="0.1" />
	<Quirk name="accellerp_all_multiplier" value="0.2" />
	<Quirk name="decellerp_all_multiplier" value="0.2" />
	<Quirk name="turnlerp_all_multiplier" value="0.3" />
	<Quirk name="internalresist_ct_additive" value="12" />
	<Quirk name="internalresist_lt_additive" value="12" />
	<Quirk name="internalresist_rt_additive" value="12" />
	<Quirk name="internalresist_la_additive" value="10" />
	<Quirk name="internalresist_ra_additive" value="10" />
	<Quirk name="internalresist_ll_additive" value="12" />
	<Quirk name="internalresist_rl_additive" value="12" />
	<Quirk name="armorresist_ra_additive" value="16" />
	<Quirk name="targetscantime_short_multiplier" value="-0.5" />
	<Quirk name="targetscantime_medium_multiplier" value="-0.66" />
	<Quirk name="targetretentiontime_additive" value="1" />
	<Quirk name="targetacquisitiondelay_additive" value="0.5" />
  </QuirkList>


This seems a little wrong -> armorresist_ra_additive" value="16"
so the armor is added to the right arm instead of left? Any idea how the torso twist multipliers will compare to the old one?

Edited by Phailwhale, 11 September 2015 - 11:53 AM.


#148 Lugh

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Posted 11 September 2015 - 11:53 AM

A lesson in careful what you ask for TTK going UP..

#149 Mister Blastman

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Posted 11 September 2015 - 11:53 AM

How about my friend the Suckoner™. Tell me, tell me the raven quoth sucketh™ no more.

#150 Gas Guzzler

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Posted 11 September 2015 - 11:54 AM

View PostMister Blastman, on 11 September 2015 - 11:53 AM, said:

How about my friend the Suckoner™. Tell me, tell me the raven quoth sucketh™ no more.


I doubt you will have anything more than sensor buffs and some agility.

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Posted 11 September 2015 - 11:54 AM

View PostMister Blastman, on 11 September 2015 - 11:53 AM, said:

How about my friend the Suckoner™. Tell me, tell me the raven quoth sucketh™ no more.

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	<SetBonuses>
	  <Bonus PieceCount="8">
		<Quirk name="xpbonus_multiplier" value="0.025" />
	  </Bonus>
	</SetBonuses>
	<component name="head">
	  <Quirk name="targetacquisitiondelay_additive" value="-1" />
	</component>
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	  <Quirk name="accellerp_all_multiplier" value="-0.25" />
	  <Quirk name="turnlerp_all_multiplier" value="-0.1" />
	  <Quirk name="targetscantime_short_multiplier" value="2" />
	  <Quirk name="targetscantime_medium_multiplier" value="0.33" />
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	  <Quirk name="targetretentiontime_additive" value="-1" />
	  <Quirk name="targetacquisitiondelay_additive" value="4" />
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	<component name="right_torso">
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	  <Quirk name="torsospeed_yaw_multiplier" value="0.1" />
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	  <Quirk name="turnlerp_all_multiplier" value="0.05" />
	  <Quirk name="internalresist_rt_additive" value="30" />
	</component>
	<component name="right_arm">
	  <Hardpoint ID="30" Type="1" lookAim="1" />
	  <Internal ItemID="1910" Toggleable="1" />
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	<component name="right_leg">
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	  <Quirk name="turnlerp_all_multiplier" value="0.1" />
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	  <Quirk name="torsospeed_yaw_multiplier" value="0.05" />
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	  <Quirk name="targetretentiontime_additive" value="-0.5" />
	  <Quirk name="targetacquisitiondelay_additive" value="-0.5" />
	</component>
	<component name="left_arm">
	  <Hardpoint ID="40" Type="0" lookAim="1" />
	  <Internal ItemID="1910" Toggleable="1" />
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	  <Quirk name="targetretentiontime_additive" value="2" />
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	  <Quirk name="internalresist_rl_additive" value="30" />
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	<component name="right_torso">
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	  <Quirk name="internalresist_rt_additive" value="15" />
	  <Quirk name="targetscantime_short_multiplier" value="-1" />
	  <Quirk name="targetscantime_medium_multiplier" value="-0.4125" />
	  <Quirk name="targetscantime_long_multiplier" value="-0.2" />
	  <Quirk name="targetretentiontime_additive" value="1" />
	  <Quirk name="targetacquisitiondelay_additive" value="-1.25" />
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	<component name="right_arm">
	  <Internal ItemID="1910" Toggleable="1" />
	  <Hardpoint ID="31" Type="2" lookAim="1" />
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	  <Quirk name="torsospeed_yaw_multiplier" value="0.05" />
	  <Quirk name="internalresist_ra_additive" value="11" />
	  <Quirk name="targetretentiontime_additive" value="-0.5" />
	</component>
	<component name="left_leg">
	  <Quirk name="accellerp_all_multiplier" value="0.15" />
	  <Quirk name="decellerp_all_multiplier" value="0.15" />
	  <Quirk name="turnlerp_all_multiplier" value="-0.1" />
	  <Quirk name="internalresist_ll_additive" value="30" />
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	<component name="left_torso">
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	  <Hardpoint ID="21" Type="4" lookAim="0" />
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	  <Quirk name="targetscantime_long_multiplier" value="-0.4" />
	  <Quirk name="targetretentiontime_additive" value="1" />
	  <Quirk name="targetacquisitiondelay_additive" value="-1.25" />
	</component>
	<component name="left_arm">
	  <Internal ItemID="1910" Toggleable="1" />
	  <Hardpoint ID="41" Type="2" lookAim="1" />
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	  <Quirk name="torsospeed_yaw_multiplier" value="0.05" />
	  <Quirk name="internalresist_la_additive" value="11" />
	  <Quirk name="targetretentiontime_additive" value="-0.5" />
	</component>
	<component name="centre_torso">
	  <Quirk name="targetscantime_short_multiplier" value="2" />
	  <Quirk name="targetscantime_medium_multiplier" value="0.33" />
	  <Quirk name="targetscantime_long_multiplier" value="0.2" />
	  <Quirk name="targetacquisitiondelay_additive" value="3" />
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	<component name="head">
	  <Quirk name="targetretentiontime_additive" value="2" />
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	<SetBonuses>
	  <Bonus PieceCount="8">
		<Quirk name="xpbonus_multiplier" value="0.025" />
	  </Bonus>
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	<component name="head">
	  <Quirk name="targetretentiontime_additive" value="1" />
	  <Quirk name="targetacquisitiondelay_additive" value="-0.5" />
	</component>
	<component name="centre_torso">
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	  <Quirk name="decellerp_all_multiplier" value="-0.2" />
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	  <Quirk name="targetscantime_medium_multiplier" value="0.66" />
	  <Quirk name="targetscantime_long_multiplier" value="0.2" />
	  <Quirk name="targetretentiontime_additive" value="-2" />
	  <Quirk name="targetacquisitiondelay_additive" value="4" />
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	<component name="right_arm">
	  <Hardpoint ID="32" Type="1" lookAim="1" />
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	<component name="left_leg">
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Edited by FupDup, 11 September 2015 - 11:55 AM.


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Posted 11 September 2015 - 11:56 AM

Seems to summoner kept weapon quirks.

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Posted 11 September 2015 - 11:56 AM

View PostKira_Onime, on 11 September 2015 - 11:56 AM, said:

Seems to summoner kept weapon quirks.

Only like 2 really small ones, nothing of significance.

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Posted 11 September 2015 - 11:57 AM

60 Leg Structure....man, I want to test the extra fall damage on that.

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Posted 11 September 2015 - 11:57 AM

Lets perhaps see it action before we start calling it a fiasco KraftySOT good sir.

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Posted 11 September 2015 - 11:58 AM

View PostFupDup, on 11 September 2015 - 11:56 AM, said:

Only like 2 really small ones, nothing of significance.


Compared with the total dequirk it doesnt need something signifance.

I wonder how the whole picture will turn out and how much fine tuning it needs.

Edited by Sarlic, 11 September 2015 - 11:58 AM.


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Posted 11 September 2015 - 11:59 AM

View PostJman5, on 11 September 2015 - 11:47 AM, said:

The real question we'll have to see is how Clan vs IS balance pans out from these changes.

This is what matters the most.

Eliminate super-power IS quirks? They were fun, but I can live with that. Retain steep damage-plus-range-times-load-cost advantages for Clan weapons? . . . Nothing's changed.

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Posted 11 September 2015 - 11:59 AM

NOPE AM AN IDIOT
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Edited by Kira_Onime, 11 September 2015 - 12:04 PM.


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Posted 11 September 2015 - 12:00 PM

View PostKira_Onime, on 11 September 2015 - 11:56 AM, said:

Seems to summoner kept weapon quirks.


Summoner deserves everything it gets and more. Poor dude has been livin' in a cardboard box!

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Posted 11 September 2015 - 12:00 PM

View PostKira_Onime, on 11 September 2015 - 11:59 AM, said:

Seems the Orion also kept it's quirks.


Oh thank god, the IS keeps one good heavy......


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