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[Red Line Pilot]

In the end the idea behind the event was good but it was poorly executed. I still had fun playing though (no Terra Therma, yay!)

[Zaldier]

lol for the whole event and I only just noticed that terra thema was not in the map rotation.

[WonderSparks]

After reading some of the later responses, I do remember that indeed some good came from this event, even if I was cheaped out of my Tier 2 rewards because Canyon only showed up a few times and I had a bad streak each time.

I ended the event with a LOT more C-bills than I had before (I even could have afforded to max out the engine in the one Black Knight with the highest cap, but I opted to use a slightly smaller engine I already had) and I wouldn't have gotten to play as much as was needed to do that otherwise... since I was busy ignoring my computer's health for a change because I wanted to win prizes. Silly me.


Ah well, beyond the frustration of not getting the map I wanted, I certainly recall having a few happy moments. Like the time someone commented via voice chat that my Dire Wolf's camo could be seen from the moon.

Still, I reiterate my previous point (with some added flavor) for PGI: random chance events shouldn't be called challenges, and ultimately probably aren't worth it, so I'd strongly consider against doing another one.

[mrt33]

Maybe the answer is somwhere burried in the thread, if so. Please forgive me asking.

Why did I get no rewards? According to the challange page I qualified for 4 Tier 2 Packs and to my knowledge I did not have a singel disconnect.
I don´t see a reason why I got nothing

The rewards should have been injected by now, right?

[reign]

mrt33, on 23 September 2015 - 09:05 AM, said:

Maybe the answer is somwhere burried in the thread, if so. Please forgive me asking.

Why did I get no rewards? According to the challange page I qualified for 4 Tier 2 Packs and to my knowledge I did not have a singel disconnect.
I don´t see a reason why I got nothing

The rewards should have been injected by now, right?

Nah you miss read it. You had to hit every map in that rotation at tier 2 to get the tier 2 reward package.

I got bog 2 times I think first time I was horra bad.. 2nd was like 1 hour before the event ended got a 225 score and was like F it good enough.. Got my Tier 1 package injected...

[Dassh]

mrt33, on 23 September 2015 - 09:05 AM, said:

Maybe the answer is somwhere burried in the thread, if so. Please forgive me asking.

Why did I get no rewards? According to the challange page I qualified for 4 Tier 2 Packs and to my knowledge I did not have a singel disconnect.
I don´t see a reason why I got nothing

The rewards should have been injected by now, right?

You cannot be qualified for "4 Tier 2 Packs" actually.

If you get 200 score on ALL maps then you will get 1 Tier 1 pack. If you get 300 score on ALL maps you will get 1 Tier 2 pack.

If only one single map you miss - probably because it just haven't showed up due to random - you won't get anything at all. (Actually that what all the complaints are about...)

[mrt33]

Thanks for the clarification reign

[Tekamen]

Javenri, on 23 September 2015 - 07:23 AM, said:

The 3-days premium time was automatically activated. Couldn't they leave the choice to us when we can activate it? I am burned from this event and wanted to take a break from this for later.

If you don't log into your game account, the rewards will be injected into your account the first time you log in when you return back from a break. If you've already logged in and received or had had your rewards injected it's too late. Going forward, if you qualify for rewards on your account and want to take a break before coming back to your active premium time, just don't log in until you're ready to play again.

At least that's how I think it works for rewards (for me it worked like this on grab bags, etc.)

Edited by Tekamen, 23 September 2015 - 09:25 AM.

[SoggyGorilla]

why was canyon network the one map no one could get? that doesn't make any sense that everyone needed that map.

for the record i saw canyon network 2 times in 200 - 250 games over 3 days and 40 + hours.

[Dassh]

SoggyGorilla, on 23 September 2015 - 09:24 AM, said:

why was canyon network the one map no one could get? that doesn't make any sense that everyone needed that map.

for the record i saw canyon network 2 times in 200 - 250 games over 3 days and 40 + hours.

Nah, I played every second match on canyon. But I haven't seen HPG for days. The other map what I hear regulary is bog.

So it isn't about one map. But very strangely most people miss only one map, not 2 nor 3 (I mean after grinding through the whole event). But - as I read here - some blokes completed the all event 2-3 times on a single afternoon for several accounts (what sounds indeed weird...).

[Wesxander]

In the future do not change the requirements for scores mid way in for one side only. Many seen that the pug 400 tier could be hard to achieve so they focused there. Suddenly the requirement drops while the CW side of the event stood. Everyone essentially gets the PUG drops which then left players who focused their efforts there having to scramble on the CW side which is far less balanced map draw wise due to the map picking rules there. IF you were going change it then should been 200 for basic then 400 for elite still. Then CW should been changed to 150 and then stayed 300 for the higher tier. This did not happen.

2nd considering CW map rotation many who played that part got something on the order of 26 Boreal Vaults (40 mins aveage time used x 26 same map games = about 7 hours of time on the same map. All the while getting other maps they needed as ghost drops. Strange how that played out. Need Emerald you only get it as ghost drop already have Boreal sorry got have it again 17 more times than you should have. With each run taking at least 40 mins of game time on average.

Should be noted after the Disconnect (DCD) rule drop there was people in both PUG and CW drops that started map farming and event farming.
Had guys who would do little damage then fall back to the dropzone as clan players attacked OMEGA. Leaving the rest of the team to bear the brunt. When the team does it to help someone get their points, that shows up constantly for games, that is ok. When you get dirtbags that show up make their points then dcd if they draw that map again speaks volumes about integrity in game play.

One other thing about the dcd rule. Going out bounds during combat on one CW map is hugely common and needs fixing that is Grim Portico. Litterally had match there where you can go out bounds for 3 to 5 seconds on the attacking side deployment. You can get stuck there or warped back into the map and then die to suicide. The count down timer then kills you because you were literally rubber banded back into the out of bounds area during intense close in fire fights.

Edited by Wesxander, 23 September 2015 - 09:54 AM.

[Kael Posavatz]

Balvier, on 23 September 2015 - 08:16 AM, said:

lol for the whole event and I only just noticed that terra thema was not in the map rotation.

Not just Terra Therma, but Alpine and both Frozen City maps as well.

Mordor, with the way people were playing, would have been a beast so taking it down was probably just as well.

I can't help but notice they took out the two coldest maps though, and I shudder to think what the map rotation would have been like with an extra three maps to get.

[Lightfoot]

I guess everyone had one map that rarely appeared. Caustic Valley for me. My team for Caustic was always DC'd or went chasing, never could get a good match-up there.

I still haven't gotten any rewards, I guess that comes later, but I really enjoyed this one and discovered my LRM mechs just were not able to even qualify with the constant ECM blanket only allowing 5-10 target locks per drop usually. It forced me to build entirely different mechs with all direct-fire and no LRMs to start to get qualifying scores. Those new mechs I continue to do very well with, so from the challenge there was progress. That's very good. Everyone was doing the same so very challenging. On the final couple of days there were no LRM mechs due to ECM.

Edit: Oh now I see why I received nothing for this event even though I invested about 20-30 hours into it. Caustic Valley only came up 3-4 times and I was stuck there with DC'd teams or just really bad ones that couldn't stick together.

I can also understand why players DC'd to try to get the map(s) they needed to win anything at all from their time spent on the challenge while getting the same map every drop. Next time try 5 maps.

Edited by Lightfoot, 23 September 2015 - 10:41 AM.

[PLCA99]

Had I actually paid attention and read that you could only get one instance of each tier prize pack, I would have cared a lot less about this event. But, that was my fault for not reading the stipulations close enough. Total waste of time.

[Lightfoot]

In fact, since it's obvious that so many player's could not get all nine maps with any consistency or at all you should amend the challenge to getting 7 out of 9. That's not their fault.

[MaxFool]

Lightfoot, on 23 September 2015 - 10:49 AM, said:

In fact, since it's obvious that so many player's could not get all nine maps with any consistency or at all you should amend the challenge to getting 7 out of 9. That's not their fault.

Well duh, obviously it was meant to be hard to get. Harder to achieve and better prizes. I find this much better way than a challenge that everyone is sure to achieve with just grinding. Everyone was certain to get all maps if they played enough, they just needed to be able to get that quite hard score when they got the right map they were missing.

[Ian G]

Lightfoot, on 23 September 2015 - 10:06 AM, said:

I guess everyone had one map that rarely appeared. Caustic Valley for me. My team for Caustic was always DC'd or went chasing, never could get a good match-up there. I still haven't gotten any rewards, I guess that comes later, but I really enjoyed this one and discovered my LRM mechs just were not able to even qualify with the constant ECM blanket only allowing 5-10 target locks per drop usually. It forced me to build entirely different mechs with all direct-fire and no LRMs to start to get qualifying scores. Those new mechs I continue to do very well with, so from the challenge there was progress. That's very good. Everyone was doing the same so very challenging. On the final couple of days there were no LRM mechs due to ECM. Edit: Oh now I see why I received nothing for this event even though I invested about 20-30 hours into it. Caustic Valley only came up 3-4 times and I was stuck there with DC'd teams or just really bad ones that couldn't stick together. I can also understand why players DC'd to try to get the map(s) they needed to win anything at all from their time spent on the challenge while getting the same map every drop. Next time try 5 maps.

So at least something good came from it. One Lurm-PUG less is a saved Mechwarrior.

[no one]

MaxFool, on 23 September 2015 - 12:53 PM, said:

Everyone was certain to get all maps if they played enough.

Just like how everyone is certain to win the lottery if they play it long enough.

[Pihoqahiak]

Kerttuli9000, on 23 September 2015 - 03:12 AM, said:

TBH what puzzles me the most by now is the evident lack of damage control on PGI's part. 64 pages and still sizzling, they should be all over this like horny wasps on meth.

A lot of VERY pissed off customers here.

I agree completely with your post. PGI's reaction to all this was basically "nothing to see here, move along". They changed multiple aspects of the Challenge without even posting on their own forums what those changes were or that they were going to make the changes. I'm not saying that changes didn't need to be made during it, just that their horrible lack of communication is, unfortunately, the typical norm for them. There are several very bad impressions that it is all too easy for a large amount of the player base to gain from this very poorly handled event. One is that PGI just doesn't care about providing the players with quality, well thought out and executed gaming events, and/or feels they don't need to in order to get players to pay money into the game. Another is that PGI is just not skilled/competent enough to provide players with quality, well thought out and executed gaming events.

[Pihoqahiak]

tee5, on 23 September 2015 - 04:38 AM, said:

Thanks for your answer Kai Allard Liao.

But I am still disappointed, and will not play for a while.
I spent a lot of time in the CW-Challenge, 30 hours + maybe 40 hours, can't tell was to busy playing Mechwarrior online.
It is bittersweet seeing you, making 2 complete CW-Challenges, while in the meantime I am not able to do 1 complete CW-Challenge due to: not offten hitting Vitric Forge, the last map I needed, to hard enemies, not good teammates, and missing Skill of me.

But I had one Map with the right guys on my side, the right guys on the enemy side, and then it was missing Skill and bad luck on my side.

It was very luck based. I was 11th on the CW leaderboard (3 points below 10th place), but was unable to complete the tier 2 CW Challenge. This was due to only getting Grim Portico a few times during 5 days of playing trying to get it, two of the times I managed to get the map were ghost drops, eliminating those drops as chances to achieve the needed 300 points. It was just a poorly planned and implemented "Challenge", plain and simple. Sadly, this is not the sort of game design that will lead to any measure of success for Russ' delusions of grandeur of MW:O becoming an eSport.

Edited by Pihoqahiak, 23 September 2015 - 04:06 PM.