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[TWIAFU]

DAEDALOS513, on 21 September 2015 - 06:40 AM, said:

Hey Yokaiko, can you post your two scores side by side showing your 1kill/480dmg/349score and your 4kill/412dmg/281 match score? This will emphasize how ridiculous the scoring to qualify is.

And include all other scoring as well.

You know, where the other half of the score comes from since damage is not the end all be all of numbers anymore.

The parts where playing as part of a team comes into play.

[GreyNovember]

TWIAFU, on 21 September 2015 - 05:41 AM, said:

If your using a GD cell phone to play FPS sim games online, maybe it is time to rethink the games you play or actually get up to speed with the 90's.

Maybe save on that data plan and get a real internet connection from this century.

Your options are kind of **** in the Philippines when it comes to any kind of reliable internet connection.

Point being, I shouldn't be punished if my ISP decides to throw a fit every 10 minutes without warning. The ones willfully non-participating though?

[DAEDALOS513]

TWIAFU, on 21 September 2015 - 06:45 AM, said:

And include all other scoring as well.

You know, where the other half of the score comes from since damage is not the end all be all of numbers anymore.

The parts where playing as part of a team comes into play.

Not just damage bro.. kills as well. 4 kills, 3 assists (so he tapped 7 players) and 412 damage didn't qualify for tier 1. Wat a joke..

[Yokaiko]

TWIAFU, on 21 September 2015 - 06:45 AM, said:

And include all other scoring as well.

You know, where the other half of the score comes from since damage is not the end all be all of numbers anymore.

The parts where playing as part of a team comes into play.

No really, damage > everything else, don't fool yourself.

Again, I put pretty much everything I screen shotted up on that bucket, go nuts.

Edited by Yokaiko, 21 September 2015 - 06:59 AM.

[Shae Starfyre]

DAEDALOS513, on 21 September 2015 - 06:43 AM, said:

Are you following coc simply because it is coc or because it makes sense (in this circumstance). My guess it is NOT the latter. Friend, when something does not make sense, don't go into that gentle night quietly, stand up and be HEARD. Let those buggers know they are wrong and to fix this! This will make a great example for your son.

It is always the latter with me; I have found that from my first days of playing DnD on Paper, playing the Paladin, and hashing out the arguments of Lawful Good, that my long path towards being a better person began.

You can make your bets, but I play with a clear conscience.

And someone else above who said he would not respond, mentioned something about moralizing a game; my words were about the morality of the words being thrown out, not about the game, but the behavior and choices made this event. And yet, have to agree with him, that the venting could be therapeutic. So I can't fault them that.

As far as standing up to be heard, no argument from me; that is not what I was writing about, and as a matter of fact, exercised that right myself with the words I have laid down this day.

One can always play by the rules and show by example first the morality of one's actions and in the same breath express disfavor for what is, to them, perceived an injustice. Would not the words of such an act be better heard?

Edited by Aphoticus, 21 September 2015 - 07:12 AM.

[Davers]

Amsro, on 21 September 2015 - 05:28 AM, said:

Goodbye %25 of player base.. good idea, punish the players for a PGI mistake.

Maybe part of the problem is everyone thinking "There are so few players PGI won't dare ban us!"

The really scary part of that would be if that was true.

[DAEDALOS513]

Aphoticus, on 21 September 2015 - 07:01 AM, said:

It is always the latter with me; I have found that from my first days of playing DnD on Paper, playing the Paladin, and hashing out the arguments of Lawful Good, that my long path towards being a better person began.

You can make your bets, but I play with a clear conscience.

And someone else above who will said he would not respond, mentioned something about moralizing a game; my words were about the morality of the words being thrown out, not about the game, but the behavior and choices made this event. And yet, have to agree with him, that the venting could be therapeutic. So I can't fault them that.

As far as standing up to be heard, no argument from me; that is not what I was writing about, and as a matter of fact, exercised that right myself with the words I have laid down this day.

One can always play by the rules and show by example first the morality of one's actions and in the same breath express disfavor for what is, to them, perceived an injustice. Would not the words of such an act be better heard?

I can see where you're coming from.. we are all at different stages of enlightenment.. as is clearly evident here in this forum. The fallacy is in thinking that we can try to convince others to join us at our own 'level.' Unfortunately, this only comes from life experiences and not harsh or pointed words. Until then, only common sense may unite us to some degree..

Edited by DAEDALOS513, 21 September 2015 - 07:15 AM.

[Yokaiko]

Davers, on 21 September 2015 - 07:04 AM, said:

Maybe part of the problem is everyone thinking "There are so few players PGI won't dare ban us!"

The really scary part of that would be if that was true.

They can knock themselves out.

[DAEDALOS513]

Davers, on 21 September 2015 - 07:04 AM, said:

Maybe part of the problem is everyone thinking "There are so few players PGI won't dare ban us!"

The really scary part of that would be if that was true.

They wouldn't dare ban anyone, not because of low player base, but because it would put on exclamation mark on how badly PGI designs challenges. So badly that ppl are willing to risk getting banned over it. Not the best publicity when they are ready to hit steam in the coming months.

[crashlogic]

I thin the lack of a solid map rotation is also a big deal. I get mining collective like 5 time all weekend and river city like 50.

[Sarlic]

In my opinion i really hope PGI does take action though.

The event was terrible, but it shows how terrible selfish some behaviour of some people is. It's rotten behaviour if you intentionally disconnect. I have seen in the little times i log on this weekend even some (respected) players doing it.

Like i said: some of them just want to do anything for that kill / pack / rewards.

People dont like to lose. Both parties are to blame.

Edited by Sarlic, 21 September 2015 - 07:26 AM.

[Davers]

DAEDALOS513, on 21 September 2015 - 07:16 AM, said:

They wouldn't dare ban anyone, not because of low player base, but because it would put on exclamation mark on how badly PGI designs challenges. So badly that ppl are willing to risk getting banned over it. Not the best publicity when they are ready to hit steam in the coming months.

In that case PGI should just stick with Participation Award type challenges and Double XP weekends so everyone is a winner.

[DAEDALOS513]

crashlogic, on 21 September 2015 - 07:19 AM, said:

I thin the lack of a solid map rotation is also a big deal. I get mining collective like 5 time all weekend and river city like 50.

Sarlic, on 21 September 2015 - 07:19 AM, said:

In my opinion i really hope PGI does take action though.

The event was terrible, but it shows how terrible selfish some behaviour of some people is. It's rotten behaviour if you intentionally disconnect. I have seen in the little times i log on this weekend even some (respected) players doing it.

Like i said: some of them just want to do anything for that kill / pack / rewards.

People dont like to lose.

Some ppl don't have endless hours to waste.. don't hate the player, hate the game.

Davers, on 21 September 2015 - 07:19 AM, said:

In that case PGI should just stick with Participation Award type challenges and Double XP weekends so everyone is a winner.

Noooo, I HATE ''participation ribbons.'' They should design challenges that make sense. Keep the scoring requirement, double or triple the number of maps required, BUT allow any maps to qualify!! So simple I don't even...

edit: maybe also not put so much emphasis on farming but rather kill assists, spotting, uav, etc.

Edited by DAEDALOS513, 21 September 2015 - 07:28 AM.

[Sarlic]

DAEDALOS513, on 21 September 2015 - 07:25 AM, said:

Some ppl don't have endless hours to waste.. don't hate the player, hate the game.

Seriously.

Not this again.

You still have a responsebility if you intentional disconnect.

It's like the SWOL thread over again but then with Disconnects.

Edited by Sarlic, 21 September 2015 - 07:27 AM.

[FrontGuard]

This post makes NO sense!!
They had to remove the disconnect rule because it was counting people who disconnected after death!!
The code that detects your death has bugs.
There is nothing wrong with valuing your personal time by disconnecting after you are killed.

Now wit that said.
Yes, disconnecting before death should be punishable some how.

Edited by FrontGuard, 21 September 2015 - 07:28 AM.

[Yokaiko]

DAEDALOS513, on 21 September 2015 - 07:27 AM, said:

Some ppl don't have endless hours to waste.. don't hate the player, hate the game.


Noooo, they should design challenges that make sense. Keep the scoring requirement, double or tripple the number of maps required, BUT allow any maps to qualify!! So simple I don't even...

This

[Daelen Rottiger]

Aphoticus, on 21 September 2015 - 07:01 AM, said:

It is always the latter with me; I have found that from my first days of playing DnD on Paper, playing the Paladin, and hashing out the arguments of Lawful Good, that my long path towards being a better person began.

You can make your bets, but I play with a clear conscience.

And someone else above who said he would not respond, mentioned something about moralizing a game; my words were about the morality of the words being thrown out, not about the game, but the behavior and choices made this event. And yet, have to agree with him, that the venting could be therapeutic. So I can't fault them that.

As far as standing up to be heard, no argument from me; that is not what I was writing about, and as a matter of fact, exercised that right myself with the words I have laid down this day.

One can always play by the rules and show by example first the morality of one's actions and in the same breath express disfavor for what is, to them, perceived an injustice. Would not the words of such an act be better heard?

To say it in a diplomatic fashion - people are different.

You might waste time and energy trying to change peoples mind here. Feels sad to say that.

Edited by Daelen Rottiger, 21 September 2015 - 07:30 AM.

[DAEDALOS513]

Sarlic, on 21 September 2015 - 07:27 AM, said:

Seriously.

Not this again.

You still have a responsebility if you intentional disconnect.

It's like the SWOL thread over again but then with Disconnects.

Seriously, not THIS again,
ppl can still kamikaze, overheat, go oobs, etc etc etc.
Stop blaming the player! Direct your energy and frustration to the true culprit!

Edited by DAEDALOS513, 21 September 2015 - 07:30 AM.

[Shae Starfyre]

Daelen Rottiger, on 21 September 2015 - 07:29 AM, said:

To say it in a diplomatic fashion - people are different.

You might waste time and energy trying to change peoples mind here. Feels sad to say that.

If a seed was never planted, there would be no minds to change (grow). (analogy not good; seems off?).

Something about a forest?!? The planting of ideas...and all that.

I picture the first man, sees lightning hit tree, sees fire, and shrugs... man never stops hiding in dark cave at night. Dies from predators.

If only one person who decided to throw caution to the wind and ignore the CoC in this event actually reads what I wrote, and it changes their mind, then it was worth it.

Sow the minds of the masses, and one may grow.

Oh, and then there is my sig motto below.... so who's to say (shrug)?

Edited by Aphoticus, 21 September 2015 - 07:38 AM.

[Screech]

Amsro, on 21 September 2015 - 05:28 AM, said:

Goodbye %25 of player base.. good idea, punish the players for a PGI mistake.

Would be like weeding in a garden. I doubt they would be missed.