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Patch Notes - 1.4.28 - 20-Oct-2015


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#101 Mystere

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Posted 20 October 2015 - 08:14 AM

View Postkka, on 20 October 2015 - 04:09 AM, said:

I hope they add "report hiding" -option, at least in skirmish.


I doubt it. It was already stated a few times that hiding to preserve one's self is a legitimate tactic, in spite of those insisting otherwise.

#102 Wildstreak

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Posted 20 October 2015 - 08:42 AM

View Postkka, on 20 October 2015 - 04:09 AM, said:


I hope they add "report hiding" -option, at least in skirmish.

Will never be added because there was a debate on this here and people like you ignored legit reasons for 'hiding.'
'Hiding' is not always cowardice, that is just an assumption by people with limited grasp of tactics and details.

#103 Josef Koba

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Posted 20 October 2015 - 08:58 AM

View PostGenJack, on 20 October 2015 - 06:52 AM, said:

Best changes ever.

Including the Tonnage, though no one in this game will tell you they like it. (Because of Reasons [they are idiots])


I guess I'm an idiot then, because I do not like the arbitrary limits as they are defined. I generally drop as part of a two man. Sometimes we like to take in King Crabs. Are we really shifting the balance of power that much? Given that we should, logically, be placed in the so-called "assault lance" I don't see how. I don't think that two mans are so over powered in the group queue that they should be so limited. In fact, the group queue is usually where two mans go to suffer through frustration. Now it'll just be more frustration. For this being a "team game" they sure seem to want to encourage two mans, who have very little place in the group queue and absolutely no place CW most of the time, to just play in the solo queue.

As far as the report function goes, great I guess. The amount of options one has to report people is a bit...much. I pretty much guarantee that people are going to abuse the heck out of this feature. No one can ignore anyone else; every slight, no matter how minor, is the worst thing that's ever happened to them. People have said a lot of things to me in this game, and I've never been particularly moved to report them. I've had bad matches in which I was the last guy alive and didn't do very well, in a mech I was experimenting with, and was repeatedly told how painful it was to watch. Didn't feel the need to report. You're going to have so many reports it's going to be insane. Some guy above me said that five daily reports isn't enough. Really? Do people see more than five justifiably reportable offenses every day?? You're going to see people taking a leak between matches, with the unpredictable nature of match starts (80 seconds left becomes 1, a normally two minute wait time becomes virtually instant) being reported. People whose internet goes down. Reported. My computer sometimes crashes. Reported. A guy run in front of that Dire Wolf who's about to kill an enemy and takes an alpha to the back. He's gonna report the Dire Wolf. People on here are upset with the amount of time it takes for tech support and customer service to get back to them, and this is going to be a lot worse. This is just making griefing of another kind easier.

#104 C E Dwyer

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Posted 20 October 2015 - 10:26 AM

View PostFerretboysRevenge, on 19 October 2015 - 01:06 PM, said:

I was a little mad at the tonnage limits as well until I had some time to think about it in context to the Battletech and Mechwarrior setting where battlemechs are rare, and of the Mechs available most of them are Lights and Mediums, with Heavies and Assaults being the rarer hard hitters. Its an interesting way to try to implement that into the game.


Yet you can't run two Locust, the most common mech in the inner sphere, first half of the 31st century, if you drop as a two, but you can two Timberwolves, the most powerful heavy in the game, or two Artic Cheaters, the most powerful Light in the game, but what is even more broken is people and PGI thinking this will stop stomps, it won't, the most dangerous group and far more comon than a 12 man is a comp level group of 4 people, that play every day as a 4, these and 6's cause the stomp, but much like a car cutting you up, people only see the 12 mans as an issue, they are far less a problem as they are only 1% group play is 17%

So the friend and the newbie are getting stomped by this 17% but people are to blind and stupid to take note, and P.G.I are just stupid enough to believe the whiners, maginfied by their fear steam won't work, well it won't, because the newbies whether in a three man or two man need to be in the pug queue and the pugs don't want any groups no matter how small on their patch..


All this will do is ensure that the big units with the fans that pay out money will stop paying out the money they did, and steam intake isn't going to make up that loss


I look forward to saying I told you so, in three to six months time, when Paul and Russ panic and make the largest group a 4 which will not solve it either and just cause more people to leave or stop spending money.


Thank god for HBS is all I can say

Edited by Cathy, 20 October 2015 - 10:28 AM.


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Posted 20 October 2015 - 10:27 AM

With these new tonnage limits, what happens to wolfpack groups? If I am reading the minimums correctly, a group of 6 would have to be 3 35 ton lights and 3 55+ ton mediums. We tend to roll fast lights and mediums like Cicadas and SCR. So much for that eh?

#106 DAYLEET

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Posted 20 October 2015 - 10:36 AM

From the forum the Camo UI looks mighty fine.

Can i ask why the colours are placed like that? any particular reason?

View PostInnerSphereNews, on 19 October 2015 - 11:29 AM, said:

These items cannot be purchased in-game.

Blood Pact Pattern for Resistance 1 'Mechs (excluding the special [R] variants, as Pattern retrofits for the Resistance 1 [R] variants are not yet complete)
Blood Pact Pattern for Resistance 2 'Mechs (including the special Resistance 2 [R] variants)


Should i assume they will be unlocked at a later date or should i just declare "well that sucks mightyballs!"?

#107 Peiper

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Posted 20 October 2015 - 10:37 AM

MAYBE they implemented the weight limits not to show you improvement, but to prove the point that matchmaker is (was) already about the best you can get. It's a slap in the face to all of us to wake up and smell the roses by shoving weeds in our face. Then we'll relent and say, okay Devs, you actually did get it right up until yesterday. We'll stop complaining if you'll change it back to the way it was when it worked.

Otherwise, I still don't see a point in breaking what is not broken. As Ebon Jags and T-Bolts rock, this doesn't actually change anything except encourage people to play more of them and less of what they might want to on the light/assault ends of the spectrum.

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Posted 20 October 2015 - 10:39 AM

View PostXbwalker, on 20 October 2015 - 10:27 AM, said:

With these new tonnage limits, what happens to wolfpack groups? If I am reading the minimums correctly, a group of 6 would have to be 3 35 ton lights and 3 55+ ton mediums. We tend to roll fast lights and mediums like Cicadas and SCR. So much for that eh?


Yup can't do lights and cicdas anymore and if you want to run clan it has to be 3 storm crows and 3 artic cheaters the most meta of them all so if any of your six friends don't own any of these, you can't drop together. in your preffered mechs


Also IS pilot have to use 55 ton mediums and 35 toners, if anyone wants to use a locust, comando or spider, you have to take a heavy

the more the detail is looked into the dumber these changes are

#109 Xbwalker

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Posted 20 October 2015 - 10:47 AM

View PostCathy, on 20 October 2015 - 10:39 AM, said:


Yup can't do lights and cicdas anymore and if you want to run clan it has to be 3 storm crows and 3 artic cheaters the most meta of them all so if any of your six friends don't own any of these, you can't drop together. in your preffered mechs


Also IS pilot have to use 55 ton mediums and 35 toners, if anyone wants to use a locust, comando or spider, you have to take a heavy

the more the detail is looked into the dumber these changes are

Thankfully my favorite light is the Raven but sheesh I feel bad for the people on the more extreme sides of the spectrum.

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Posted 20 October 2015 - 10:52 AM

Again no rebalancing - that means we have to deal another 2 weeks with that 8 lazors-alpha-striking Ebons, that kill my shiny-new IS medium Mech in a single shot at 500 m distance...

Ok, stop mastering those Shadowhawks and get back to the Thunderbolt !

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Posted 20 October 2015 - 10:59 AM

Some of the Colours that are greyed out when owned filter is on are indistinguishable from own colors that are dark. They would need the little red contour with a strike(like in the pattern) instead of the greyout.

It's really cool that the colours change on the fly like that.


argh, for exemple, i own the Phoenix Black and not the 6 adjacent colors, to the left of phoenix black i also own the Naikata green and only half the adjacent colours, i cant tell which i own and which i dont own when the owned filter is on!!!

Edited by DAYLEET, 20 October 2015 - 11:04 AM.


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Posted 20 October 2015 - 11:13 AM

Experiencing an issue where my game crashes upon clicking the store button.

#113 Steve Pryde

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Posted 20 October 2015 - 11:30 AM

View PostVigorousApathy, on 20 October 2015 - 11:13 AM, said:

Experiencing an issue where my game crashes upon clicking the store button.

Same for me.

#114 L Y N X

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Posted 20 October 2015 - 11:31 AM

View PostDak Darklighter, on 19 October 2015 - 05:40 PM, said:

I don't understand why there are 4 posts about this out of 43. I have a sickening feeling the report feature will be abused. Not only abused, but there are some options there that are really just stupid. AFK and disconnecting? WTF? Nonconstructive chat and Assisting The Enemy? Here's how it's going to play out with a playerbase like ours. - You fire at enemy, ******* teammate walks right in front of you and takes damage or is killed. REPORTED! - Your doorbell rings and you miss 5 minutes of one game. OMG AFK REPORTED! - Your game crashes and you show up as Disconnected on the scoreboad. REPORTED! - Your team is demolished apart from 1 disconnected guy and you give co-ordinates to speed things up. ASSISTING THE ENEMY OMG REPORTED!! - You provide some advice or tactical suggestions that other people take as "bitching and whining." NONCONSTRUCTIVE REPORTED!! - You say a swear word on an internet game chat. Some 10 year old takes advantage, REPORTED FOR LANGUAGE!! - You overheat and accidentally blow your reactor up. OMG SUICIDE REPORTED!!!!! If there's going to be 1000 options readily available for people to report others for just about everything, you might as well add the option to report people for false reporting. And who is going to handle the incoming tidal wave of reports? It better be a human being instead of some code that goes "Oh you've been reported 3 times today, you can't play until tomorrow." Assuming that's the punishment. We don't even know what the punishment for these is! I know not everyone is going to be so report-happy. But I also know there's a lot of players out there who will be.


Dak, if this is planned to work anything like WoT then it is for trend tracking over hundreds or thousands of being reported before anything happens to your account and the first time is is for 24 hours only then 3 days then a week then a month...

It is designed to help people improve their own poor behavior trends or show them the door. I like it.

#115 Michal R

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Posted 20 October 2015 - 11:32 AM

First match. 45-65 meta. HBR, Ebon, BJ and chetach.
GG devs.
Send email when this will stop.
I will be in CW. Pug play have no sens.

#116 Zarock

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Posted 20 October 2015 - 11:37 AM

Suggestion about the colours: first, the new structure is pretty cool, just one problem: if I click on "owned" colours, my owned colours turn brighter, rest gets dark, just that I had to search for a while to find my darker colours, theyre not bright enough so I could find them.. It would be easier if the not-owned colours would disappear completely when I click on "owned", so nobody has to search for his colours :)

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Posted 20 October 2015 - 11:49 AM

You sold us a bunch of mechs then change when we can play with them. Although I purchased the Resistance 2 package (I have previously purchased 3 other packages and Cbills), I will no longer be playing because of the weight limits. As I explained, if I run an assault in solo games, I will be left behind. If I run an assault with my buddy and he is forced to run a lighter mech, he wouldn't want to stick with me because I'm too slow. Either way, I get ganged ***** by the enemy in slow assault. So now I'd be forced to run lighter mechs. Why have heavy slow mechs in the game? Why sell people stuff and force them not to play it?

I requested a partial refund prior to the delivery of the last mech and the rest of the content but was told that because I got the 30-day premium bonus I couldn't get a refund. You changed the terms of my purchase by limiting how and when I can play a mech but I can't get a partial refund because I got a bonus 30 days--I wasn't even asking for a full refund. Sigh.

I did have lots of fun playing MWO but I guess it's time to move on.

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Posted 20 October 2015 - 12:17 PM

Please note its an evolving process, driven by the same players who wanted a change, had the same motivation as those opposing. Stop whining

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Posted 20 October 2015 - 01:08 PM

View PostVenomStriker, on 20 October 2015 - 11:49 AM, said:

As I explained, if I run an assault in solo games, I will be left behind. If I run an assault with my buddy and he is forced to run a lighter mech, he wouldn't want to stick with me because I'm too slow. Either way, I get ganged ***** by the enemy in slow assault. So now I'd be forced to run lighter mechs. Why have heavy slow mechs in the game? Why sell people stuff and force them not to play it?

I did have lots of fun playing MWO but I guess it's time to move on.



This, and I truly mean what I am about to say, NEVER happens to me. Especially in the solo queue. When you drop into the match start moving immediately. If you stand around for 30/60 seconds then you will get left behind. You are not dying because you are in an assault. You are dying because you are not thinking.

Have a great day! :)

#120 VenomStriker

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Posted 20 October 2015 - 01:14 PM

View PostLance425, on 20 October 2015 - 01:08 PM, said:



This, and I truly mean what I am about to say, NEVER happens to me. Especially in the solo queue. When you drop into the match start moving immediately. If you stand around for 30/60 seconds then you will get left behind. You are not dying because you are in an assault. You are dying because you are not thinking.

Have a great day! :)


Well you must be a really great pilot. I'm a Tier 1 with full bar so I can only imagine that you must be amazing. This has been my experience in a Direwolf...it is what it is.

Edited by VenomStriker, 20 October 2015 - 01:15 PM.






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