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[Azrael0815]

Domenoth, on 17 November 2015 - 11:24 AM, said:

Most people are willing to play an occasional conquest game because they realize other people really like it and focusing on other people's needs, not just your own, is widely recognized as a sign of "a good person" as opposed to "a spoiled brat".

And due to this dear Sir, I asked in my first post quite polite if we can have the old system back - I did not complain and you do not need to be offended by my post nor do YOU do not need to be impolite to me.
Btw: This is a feedback post and I have written I like the patch BUT i dislike the voting system
and i do not understand why it was implemented. If you like Conquest you could have selected it in the "old days" and then you had all other Conquest loving players around you. So where is the drawback for YOU in the old system ? waiting time .. not really as also now I wait up 1-2 minutes for a match if I am unlucky

[bar10jim]

AdamBaines, on 17 November 2015 - 09:22 AM, said:

Wow, you certainly seem entitled and self centered.

And it seems like your in the minority here. Sorry Bud.

Not entitled or self centered. Just a customer who is no longer able to enjoy this game.

Assume for instance that you don't like Conquest, but prefer Skirmish. Would you play 10 games of Conquest to (maybe) get to play 2 games of Skirmish? Probably not. And that is exactly my situation.

PGI has decided that they don't want me to play, nor do they want my money.

[Domenoth]

Azrael0815, on 17 November 2015 - 12:14 PM, said:

And due to this dear Sir, I asked in my first post quite polite if we can have the old system back - I did not complain and you do not need to be offended by my post nor do YOU do not need to be impolite to me.
Btw: This is a feedback post and I have written I like the patch BUT i dislike the voting system
and i do not understand why it was implemented. If you like Conquest you could have selected it in the "old days" and then you had all other Conquest loving players around you. So where is the drawback for YOU in the old system ? waiting time .. not really as also now I wait up 1-2 minutes for a match if I am unlucky

See my post directly above yours. That's why you can't have it back. If there was some way to magically alter reality so that more game modes could live in harmony with the old complete-control check boxes, I'd be all for it. But I'm not going to hold my breath.

[Jabilo]

Please remove game mode and map voting.

Bribing me with C Bills is not enough - I hate having to play modes I don't want to play.

[Blood Skar]

ok...this patch is worse than even i thought it would be.

Conquest game after Conquest game. Was this intended?

Why add ways for players to exploit the voting system but not reinforce it with somekind of 'Mode Block' for modes players dont want to play?

You cater for one group of players, but not another.

I made a prediction after the voting system was patched in - that players would moan about certain maps not being played (those maps have problems imo) - that prediction came true, hence this patched voting system now..
I'm making a new prediction - that players will be sick of playing conquest and moan over the next coming weeks/months.

BTW...was the MM system messed wth? I notice im being placed with and pit against teams i've never seen before and individual players i've never played with. Was this a stealth change?

I think i'm gunna take a break from the game - not liking this direction its going in.
Looks like i will after all be one of the moaners on Steam when its released. I was going to give a good review on there - but making me play conquest instead of the 2 other modes i actually want to play is game killing for me.

[Jabilo]

Please remove game mode and map voting.

Bribing me with C Bills is not enough - I hate having to play modes I don't want to play.

[Domenoth]

bar10jim, on 17 November 2015 - 12:20 PM, said:

Not entitled or self centered. Just a customer who is no longer able to enjoy this game.

Assume for instance that you don't like Conquest, but prefer Skirmish. Would you play 10 games of Conquest to (maybe) get to play 2 games of Skirmish? Probably not. And that is exactly my situation.

PGI has decided that they don't want me to play, nor do they want my money.

You do realize the recent voting change is in direct response to people experiencing exactly what you describe?

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Assume for instance that you don't like Skirmish or Assault, but prefer Conquest. Would you play 10 games of Skirmish and 5 games of Assault to (maybe) get to play 2 games of Conquest?

Look at it from their perspective. You at least got a majority of Skirmish. What did they get?

Edited by Domenoth, 17 November 2015 - 12:29 PM.

[AdamBaines]

bar10jim, on 17 November 2015 - 12:20 PM, said:

Assume for instance that you don't like Conquest, but prefer Skirmish. Would you play 10 games of Conquest to (maybe) get to play 2 games of Skirmish? Probably not. And that is exactly my situation.

1) I dont have a preferred mode. Would the constant rotation get a bit stale? Yes. This solution proposes to fix it. So lets see if it works instead of threatening to leave the game if you dont get what you want.

2) Either way I don't care if you leave because if you get "your way" you will stay but there will be someone on the other side who does not like what you like, threatening to leave the game because that's the only way they know to have fun with the game. 6 one way and half a dozen the other.

I think PGI is going about it in a good manner. before you had no clue what you would drop. Now you have some input, AND it wont get too stale with the voting changes.

[SilentScreamer]

Jabilo, on 17 November 2015 - 12:23 PM, said:

Please remove game mode and map voting.

Bribing me with C Bills is not enough - I hate having to play modes I don't want to play.

Jalibo has a good point. But not too long ago, MWO did not have either the checkboxes to guarantee specific game modes or voting.

How many players would rather go back to letting the computer decide? No voting, but no checkboxes either?

[Lord Auriel]

[wicm]

I still wont play conquest, but i will no longer be contentious it about either. This situation that PGI has set forth is to deviceive. Because of it I inadvertently called a friend a newb. I said that all capquest pilots are newbs, but I found that a good pilot is on the other side. Domnoth is a good pilot and a nice guy, sorry I gruped you in with the newbs.

PGi I know you are doing your best, and you have to deal with us complainers,so keep it up.
Ps I will be buying the Rifleman pack as soon as my wife lets me.

Edited by wicm, 17 November 2015 - 12:45 PM.

[Domenoth]

wicm, on 17 November 2015 - 12:44 PM, said:

I still wont play conquest, but i will no longer be contentious it about either. This situation that PGI has set forth is to deviceive. Because of it I inadvertently called a friend a newb. I said that all capquest pilots are newbs, but I found that a good pilot is on the other side. Domnoth is a good pilot and a nice guy, sorry I gruped you in with the newbs.

PGi I know you are doing your best, and you have to deal with us complainers,so keep it up.
Ps I will be buying the Rifleman pack as soon as my wife lets me.

Believe me when I say I wish we had enough players that everyone could choose exactly what they want to play and all games are 12-11 because skill levels are identical on both sides. I just don't see that happening.

But when the choice is keep these exact same 3 game modes for eternity, or introduce voting so we can expand, I'm going to side with voting every time.

[UndeadEdd]

Domenoth, on 17 November 2015 - 12:11 PM, said:

Maybe you should use an accurate example. You go to a Basketball game and get mad because someone suggests you should play half-court because he's already played full-court for 2 hours and could use a slight rest. You're right. Instead of sucking it up and playing half-court for a game or two, you should just take your ball and go home.

Actually, if you haven't noticed, in real life you have only one basketball court while in a computer game you can have almost as many as you need. So you can have one team play half court, and another play full court. With the original mode selection we could all play on our courts and enjoy our favorite game modes. I don't need to "suck it up", this isn't a real-life isssue, just a computer game, for fun. And indeed I've taken my ball and gone home. No more monetary investment from me, and I've already invested around 500$.

[metallio]

I'm ok with the voting, I like all the game modes.

I'd like to see some sort of reward for "tanking" as an assault
and
can we just get an option to decide what we see at the end of a match? It would help a lot of our own name was highlighted on the team screen and the time the info was available without input doubled or tripled.

I'd also like to see the conquest caps be actual locations like ammo facilities or government buildings, and map bonuses for holding them. Ammo facility held? Get +1 shot for ACs every minute or something similar. etc.

[Thomas G Wolf]

Get rid of this shite map and mode voting already PGI it is killing this game, today for the first time ever I quit a match before it even started because the mode is one that I do not WANT to play in an assault keeps on getting chosen, and no I do NOT want to play 5 FU*KING games so that I have a chance to play the mode that I was perfectly able to choose before. Also the frigging wait times are EVEN longer now but you cannot opt out to read something else because you have to F*CKING VOTE, this togather with you braindead idiear of killing the skill trees without putting in something else has done what you have not been able to do in 3 years, turn me away from this game, well done PGI.
Also how about you do something with the time it takes to save a mech in the lab, 30 frigging seconds each time you do something is just not on, sometimes it take up to a minute, get you act togather or you will fail big time in steam.

Edited by Eric Wulfen, 17 November 2015 - 01:04 PM.

[Azrael0815]

Domenoth, on 17 November 2015 - 12:49 PM, said:

Believe me when I say I wish we had enough players that everyone could choose exactly what they want to play and all games are 12-11 because skill levels are identical on both sides. I just don't see that happening.

But on the other side you should consider that now ppl are leaving the game or take a break or play less for now due to the fact they are forced to play games they do not like. Please also take into account that it could happen that "new" PPL from the steam community will test the game and then see "hmm... i cannot choose the gamemode... oh thats awesome i really like that"
Be honest .. everyone likes the possibility to choose freely what he/she wants to play
And I do not agree that it was a necessary change. Look at other online games which are quite sucessful (like WoT where this is the case since the gamemodes were implemented)

EDIT: my bad.. wrong typing.. sorry

Edited by Azrael0815, 17 November 2015 - 01:07 PM.

[PraetorGix]

UndeadEdd, on 17 November 2015 - 12:54 PM, said:

Actually, if you haven't noticed, in real life you have only one basketball court while in a computer game you can have almost as many as you need. So you can have one team play half court, and another play full court. With the original mode selection we could all play on our courts and enjoy our favorite game modes. I don't need to "suck it up", this isn't a real-life isssue, just a computer game, for fun. And indeed I've taken my ball and gone home. No more monetary investment from me, and I've already invested around 500$.

Again, wrong whining. You may have infinite basketball courts, but you DO NOT HAVE INFINITE PLAYERS. In fact, you have quite a little amount of people willing to play. So, if they are tired of playing full court, you play half-court and shut up, just like those people had to play the way you liked before.

[Domenoth]

UndeadEdd, on 17 November 2015 - 12:54 PM, said:

Actually, if you haven't noticed, in real life you have only one basketball court while in a computer game you can have almost as many as you need. So you can have one team play half court, and another play full court. With the original mode selection we could all play on our courts and enjoy our favorite game modes. I don't need to "suck it up", this isn't a real-life isssue, just a computer game, for fun. And indeed I've taken my ball and gone home. No more monetary investment from me, and I've already invested around 500$.

You keep saying this isn't a real life issue. How many basketball games can you play alone? It doesn't matter how many courts you have if each court only has 1 person on it and everyone refuses to lose "home court advantage". Without compromise no one gets to play anything. This definitely became a real world issue when the words "Online" and "multiplayer" got added to the name and description of MWO.

You're free to go if you want. But don't expect us to watch you leave and think "There goes the kind of person I want to be when I grow up."

[Arkhangel]

wicm, on 17 November 2015 - 12:44 PM, said:

I still wont play conquest, but i will no longer be contentious it about either. This situation that PGI has set forth is to deviceive. Because of it I inadvertently called a friend a newb. I said that all capquest pilots are newbs, but I found that a good pilot is on the other side. Domnoth is a good pilot and a nice guy, sorry I gruped you in with the newbs.

PGi I know you are doing your best, and you have to deal with us complainers,so keep it up.
Ps I will be buying the Rifleman pack as soon as my wife lets me.

in fairness, Newb just means Newbie, new guy, inexperienced. the insult form is Noob... which is most of the people on this forum, as they all think they know what's best for the game and won't take any arguement to the contrary regardless of logic.

Newbies are fine. we'll have a ton when Steam hits, and they should be treated well so we have more active players. Noob players, however, we can do without, like the idiots who sing over Comms and tell target callers to shut up, etc. those people can go back to Call of Duty.

fact is, the system's fine for now. and REGARDLESS of what match type or map you're on, you get to blow up piloted robotic death machines with your own piloted robotic death machines. be team players and work as one and you'll have a hell of a lot more fun in any game mode..

Edited by Arkhangel, 17 November 2015 - 01:19 PM.

[Domenoth]

Azrael0815, on 17 November 2015 - 01:02 PM, said:

But on the other side you should consider that now ppl are leaving the game or take a break or play less for now due to the fact they are forced to play games they do not like. Please also take into account that it could happen that "new" PPL from the steam community will test the game and then see "hmm... i cannot choose the gamemode... oh thats awesome i really like that"

I fully concede that might be the case. But what I said earlier applies:

Domenoth, on 17 November 2015 - 11:24 AM, said:

So yes, you are in what appears to be (and what I fervently hope truly is) the minority.

You don't like the voting. You hate conquest enough that you logged in to say so. I hope more people are like me and don't care enough either way or they realize we're all in this together and voting opens the door to lots more game modes (a net gain for everyone I would hope).

Azrael0815, on 17 November 2015 - 01:02 PM, said:

Be honest .. everyone likes the possibility to choose freely what he/she wants to play

Again, I don't dispute this at all. Nothing would make me happier than everyone getting exactly what they want.

Azrael0815, on 17 November 2015 - 01:02 PM, said:

And I do not agree that it was a necessary change. Look at other online games which are quite sucessful (like WoT where this is the case since the gamemodes were implemented)

That's awesome for WoT players. I do wish MWO could duplicate their success. However, the people running MWO have said their Match Maker can't have more game modes without voting. You can disagree with them all you want. You certainly wouldn't be the first. But most of your posts have said you don't know why voting was implemented. Now, I hope, you do. Use that information however you choose.