Lorian Sunrider, on 19 November 2015 - 07:45 PM, said:
Nightshade, do the math on the unseen packages and then come back to me.
You can spin it will all the free goodies and MC you want, but the value isn't as good as others. Not even remotely.
It would be harder due to the fact that not a single one has a released MC or C-bill release.
Even though I can calculate to the very last C-bill of the price as for eg the maruader is just like any other 75 tonners chassis cost+ the armour cost, the weapon cost, ammo cost, heatsink cost, engine cost, etc. (AMS cost is not calculated for some reason)
I can give you a guestimate based on the orion if you will allow me to. It should be fine but with a 5 dollar or so margin of error.
For fareness of the topic- I will NOT calculate bonus early purchase rewards. (I should also mention that clan omnimechs sell for 30 dollars per tier and not 20 dollars per tier, so value is shifted between IS and Clan mechs. It makes it harder to give a fair comparison as this is the first packs ever with both tech)
First of all I will average all Orion chassis, not because all marauders will cost the same but they do have tech difference nad some are inherently more expensive than others. The average is only the fastest and best way to use this as an example but the answer isn't 100% definite. We can only see how accurate it is after we get the mechs released for MC at the very least.
(2,605 + 4,290 + 2,655 + 2,500) / 4 = 3012.5 MC
This is our guesstimated average based on the orion for the marauder.
3012.5 x 0.00556 = 16.7495, to 2dp it's $16.75
What else is their to the 20 dollar pack?
30 days premium which above already calculated as $13.90
3 mech bays, which will be our first calculated value x 3.
1.67 x 3 = $5.01
What else?....
1 warhorn, and a standing and hanging cockpit item. Which costs around...
750 + 500 x 2 = 1750 MC
1750 x 0.00556 = $9.73
Anything else?... no... let's sum up the 20 dollar pack for the marauder and compare it to the Light performance pack.
[3 standard marauders] + [30 days premium] + [3 mech bays] + [cockpit items]
16.75 + 13.90 + 5.01 + 9.73 =
$45.39
The worth of the pack is bellow 50% of the Performance light pack even though the marauder pack costs 2/3rds of the light performance pack. REMINDER. This is a heavy mech pack compared to the Light mechs...
BUT the biggest bang for your buck comes in the form of the add ons... let's calculate the price of the hero which we will simply assume is the orion protector cost for now. Why? becuase hero costs are easy to calculate! they go by tonnage and NOT equipment. Every 75 ton (at least for IS, we got no clan heroes and PGI likesm aking clanners pay more for no reason... ie clan cockpit items costing more than IS even thoguh they both have the same effect... this inflation is only to make the 30 dollars per tier feel worth it...yea- clan packs are a bit udner hwealming in price until the origins but lets go back to the Marauder... (btw a hero 1 ton battle armour would cost 75 MC and a 135 ton Ares would cost 10,125 MC... just saying))
so... 5,625 x 0.00556 = 31.28 (2dp)
So... for +15 dollars to the 20 dollar package for a total of 35 dollars we get...
[Hero] + [3 standard marauders] + [30 days premium] + [3 mech bays] + [1 mech bay] + [cockpit items]
31.28 + 16.75 + 13.90 + 5.01 + 1.67 + 9.73 =
$78.34
Now instead of just a mech with a bonus we got a HERO with unique hardpoints, camo, etc. Which should worth more than a copy mech BUT the thing is this pack STILL is not worth it compared to the performance packs even though it's 35 dollars, 5 dollars over the mechs.
THIS is because of the value of the colours, skin unlocks, and the fact its "2 premium mechs" [one being clan] vs "1 premium mech".
The 3rd option for marauder pack fans is getting 20+ dollars to get tripple the cockpit items and a special mech which is hard to identify price due to the fact it's a hero bonus slapped onto a standard chassis BUT different skin and premiuum bonus (should mention now that the value of the performance pack is a bit higher as 30% c-bill bonus does not equal 30% EXP bonus but I will leave those calculations for now...), We could use the hero mech price, the champion orion price... so why not calculate both in for 2 different equations?
[champion worth: 3,260 x 0.00556 = $18.13 (2dp) ]
1= hero worth
2= champion worth
1) [Classic mech prem] + [3 standard marauders] + [30 days premium]x2‡ + [3 mech bays] + [1 mechbay] + [cockpit items]x3
31.28 + 16.75 + 13.90 x 2 + 5.01 + 1.67 + 9.73 x 3 =
$111.70
2) [Classic mech prem] + [3 standard marauders] + [30 days premium]x2‡ + [3 mech bays] + [1 mechbay] + [cockpit items]x3
18.13 + 16.75 + 13.90 x 2 + 5.01 + 1.67 + 9.73 x 3 =
$98.55
‡due to the fact you can activate it seperately and works as if like they are 2 x 30 day premiums.
Right now, we paid 10 dollars more than the 30 dollar light performance pack and we finally broke it's worth by $8.91... Which we paid 10 dollars extra, SO in terms of ratios... we still didn't get the same worth as we 'lost' 1.09 dollars comparing it to the other option while if we go with the 2nd formula which is more 'fair' some may argue due to my first calculation being used with champion price and not hero price.[which I can't do as the clan hero price formula is unknown] is $4.24 bellow the performance light pack while paying 10 dollars more than it. Thus we 'lost' 14.24 dollars here.
future formula will use the №1 option just as a 'bias' to your position in case the Orion prices were not fair. in other words this is an extreme to the more expensive/ saving option.
We will calculate what happens if we spend 55 dollars on the marauder, aka hero + classic + standards.
31.28x2 + 16.75 + 13.90 x 2 + 5.01 + 1.67 x 2+ 9.73 x 3 =
$144.65
Now here's the thing- we spent 55 dollars instead of 30 to compare values. here we spent 25 dollars extra.
so...
Light performance pack =
$102.79
Classic standard pack [$20] =
$45.39
Classic standard + Hero pack [$35] =
$78.34
Classic premium pack [$40] =
$111.70
Classic premium + Hero pack =
$144.65
Now... how shall we compare them 'fairely' if they all costed the same to see a so to say ratio... 1 way we can do this but not the only way is to devide the number of the 'worth' of the pack with the number it costed...
Light performance: 102.79 / 30 =
3.4263 [4dp]
Classic standard pack: 45.39 / 20 =
2.2695
Classic standard + hero pack: 78.34 / 35 =
2.2383 [4dp]
Classic premium pack: 111.70 / 40 =
2.7925
Classic premium + hero pack: 144.65 / 55 =
2.63
Now we got the numbers if the pack was a 'one dollar pack' worth so to say... a "1:1 ratio" with each other I think you might call it (Reminder: english is my 3rd language, ratio may not be the word I am looking for but if you understand some statistics and mathmatics you may possibly understand what I mean if I am wrong with the wording)
In this case, bigger number is better and Light Performance pack beats the Maruader pack, Even the 55 and 40 dollar packs and tiers.
REMINDER: I did NOT calculate the worth of the early bonus rewards which would incorperate +1 Marauder standard variant to both standard and premium tiers, 3 additional cockpit items, 2 weapon modules, 2 mech modules, and a pattern.
The reasoning is it already expired but the value of this pack will NEVER expire hence my point of it's pressence being needed....
Did these calculations satisfy you? I should mention this is just 1 way to compare them and I have had made decisions to try to find the best amd most fair ways to do this. Rather it be deciding between what 'average' I should use ie mean, medium, mode, range, etc... which can give completely different resaults. Or my guesstimation on hte worth of the premium mechs [minus BH2].
Edited by Nightshade24, 20 November 2015 - 02:41 AM.
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