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#61 MrMadguy

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Posted 21 January 2016 - 07:15 AM

That's what happens, when you pick Polar Highlands.
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Still zero activity at 8.59. Fist kill at 8:07. Stomp after 10:31 minutes. All damage, I done - is 300dmg, done via LRMs. So much fun, yeah...

Edited by MrMadguy, 21 January 2016 - 07:15 AM.


#62 pyrocomp

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Posted 21 January 2016 - 07:23 AM

View PostMrMadguy, on 21 January 2016 - 07:15 AM, said:

That's what happens, when you pick Polar Highlands.
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Still zero activity at 8.59. Fist kill at 8:07. Stomp after 10:31 minutes. All damage, I done - is 300dmg, done via LRMs. So much fun, yeah...

Not really, If both teams lack Leroy Jenkinses and squirrels, then after 6 minutes of quite intense fire exchange you still can see 0-0. But at the same time both teams will have not a single mech with all 4 limbs attached. Happens. Yes. Happens. A single match proves nothing. I've been in a rolf stomp match where we lost 2-12 and completely outdamaged enemy. I've been in a 12-4 win with 3 DC on our team.
25 match series without any kind of sabotage and DCs and your point will be proven, right now it is now.

#63 1Grimbane

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Posted 21 January 2016 - 07:25 AM

yeah give me months worth of spreadsheets on how your matches go then we'll call it useable data. actually i still woudn't care CUZ I LOVE ME SOME POLAR DA DA DA DA DUH DA... (to the tune of motown philly)

Edited by 1Grimbane, 21 January 2016 - 07:27 AM.


#64 MrMadguy

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Posted 21 January 2016 - 07:30 AM

View Postpyrocomp, on 21 January 2016 - 07:23 AM, said:

Not really, If both teams lack Leroy Jenkinses and squirrels, then after 6 minutes of quite intense fire exchange you still can see 0-0. But at the same time both teams will have not a single mech with all 4 limbs attached. Happens. Yes. Happens. A single match proves nothing. I've been in a rolf stomp match where we lost 2-12 and completely outdamaged enemy. I've been in a 12-4 win with 3 DC on our team.
25 match series without any kind of sabotage and DCs and your point will be proven, right now it is now.

As I said, I usually win on this map only because enemy team gets bored of doing nothing and starts to suicide.

Also, I usually die fast due to inverted balance in this game: it's Lights, who are supposed to be fragile, to hide behind Assaults' backs and to die instantly in open fight - not Assaults, sorry.

#65 1Grimbane

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Posted 21 January 2016 - 07:42 AM

yeah something is wrong with the game when i'm a death's knell and look at an atlas as easy pickins however it's that one odd haymaker they throw you gotta look out for lol

Edited by 1Grimbane, 21 January 2016 - 07:43 AM.


#66 SilentWolff

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Posted 21 January 2016 - 07:45 AM

Wtf are people talking about? Polar Highlands and Alpine are 2 of the best maps in game right now. Not everyone wants to play the no skill Nascar brawl nonsense every game.

#67 CMDR Sunset Shimmer

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Posted 21 January 2016 - 07:51 AM

Guy's, I figured it out, Mr Madguy is clearly tier 5, the total steeringwheel underhive.

After all, he's clearly playing with people who can't find the throttle, if it's taking this long to get into engagements.

#68 1Grimbane

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Posted 21 January 2016 - 07:59 AM

ok explain steeringwheel underhive... i've seen the guy in the bus meme but what is origin please (sauce?)

and k-town... in my town KC it's local homegrown.. i'm assuming this is not what is means in mwo forums

Edited by 1Grimbane, 21 January 2016 - 08:00 AM.


#69 MrMadguy

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Posted 21 January 2016 - 08:01 AM

View PostCMDR Sunset Shimmer, on 21 January 2016 - 07:51 AM, said:

Guy's, I figured it out, Mr Madguy is clearly tier 5, the total steeringwheel underhive.

After all, he's clearly playing with people who can't find the throttle, if it's taking this long to get into engagements.

Yeah, may be I'm Tier 5, Tier 4 for sure, but for some reason I find myself in Tier 3. But this is not map problem - it's about MM. Also about trying to insult me. I'm too adult to react on insults. Kindergarten period of my life was over long time ago.

#70 TheCharlatan

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Posted 21 January 2016 - 08:03 AM

View Post1Grimbane, on 21 January 2016 - 07:59 AM, said:

ok explain steeringwheel underhive... i've seen the guy in the bus meme but what is origin please (sauce?)

and k-town... in my town KC it's local homegrown.. i'm assuming this is not what is means in mwo forums


From this (i didn't make it)
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Actual picture of the underhive itself:
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MrMadGuy is the one screaming on the right. Posted Image

Edited by TheCharlatan, 21 January 2016 - 08:04 AM.


#71 CMDR Sunset Shimmer

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Posted 21 January 2016 - 08:04 AM

View Post1Grimbane, on 21 January 2016 - 07:59 AM, said:

ok explain steeringwheel underhive... i've seen the guy in the bus meme but what is origin please (sauce?)

and k-town... in my town KC it's local homegrown.. i'm assuming this is not what is means in mwo forums


There was a joke originating over on the 4chan about someone trying to steer their mech with a steering wheel. I think it came from a picture of someone playing the game and they had their racing wheel infront of their keyboard.

K-Town is a reference to kraktoea, which comes from the Goonsquad, and is the "ultimate off topic" location on the forums found in the "off topic" location, it's basically a place threads go to die.

#72 1Grimbane

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Posted 21 January 2016 - 08:06 AM

thank you sir and now i know. odd that it started on 4-chan but what doesn't these days

what happened to the heady days of project chanology i miss me some ion cannon ddosing scientology sites

Edited by 1Grimbane, 21 January 2016 - 08:07 AM.


#73 CMDR Sunset Shimmer

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Posted 21 January 2016 - 08:08 AM

View Post1Grimbane, on 21 January 2016 - 08:06 AM, said:

thank you sir and now i know. odd that it started on 4-chan but what doesn't these days

what happened to the heady days of project chanology i miss me some ion cannon ddosing scientology sites


Summer... and brony's apparently.

That's if you ask /b/ anyway.

#74 Darth Hotz

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Posted 21 January 2016 - 08:11 AM

View PostMrMadguy, on 21 January 2016 - 07:15 AM, said:

That's what happens, when you pick Polar Highlands.
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Still zero activity at 8.59. Fist kill at 8:07. Stomp after 10:31 minutes. All damage, I done - is 300dmg, done via LRMs. So much fun, yeah...



Yeah. And this exactly is what is great about this map. MWO once had the claim " A thinking persons shooter" but it transformed into "Braindead Brawlers" dying within 1 minute. I hope this map is the start to revers this process. I want to see more maps like this giving you space to move and maneuver around the whole area. They should take this approach also to the CW maps where 70% of the maps areas are only used to walk to the fighting hotspots.

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Posted 21 January 2016 - 08:11 AM

View PostMrMadguy, on 21 January 2016 - 04:10 AM, said:

When you are new to a game, unexperienced and don't understand, what is happening - everything looks great and exciting. But after several thousands matches of game experience you start to realize, which maps are good and which are terrible. So here is the updated rating of maps in this game, which reflects recent changes to old maps, as long as release of new ones. So players, who haven't realized it yet, would know, for what and against what maps they should vote, in order to get overall better gameplay.

Following criteria are used to rank maps:
1) Variation of tactics
2) How balanced spawns/sides of map are
3) Imbalance towards some weight classes
4) Imbalance towards some builds
5) Imbalance towards some Meta
6) Time is wasted on that map in non-playing activities

What isn't taken into account:
1) Visibility - not knowing, how to use H and N buttons - is your problem
2) Terrain - not knowing, how to properly move, navigate and choose routes - is your problem
3) Temperature - not knowing, how to manage your heat - is your problem
4) FPS - weak computer is your problem

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I'd say remove ALL MAPS but Polar Highlands!
Force the people unable to adapt to either adapt or leave and go play some generic FPS.

#76 Kjudoon

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Posted 21 January 2016 - 08:14 AM

View PostMrMadguy, on 21 January 2016 - 04:10 AM, said:

When you are new to a game, unexperienced and don't understand, what is happening - everything looks great and exciting. But after several thousands matches of game experience you start to realize, which maps are good and which are terrible. So here is the updated rating of maps in this game, which reflects recent changes to old maps, as long as release of new ones. So players, who haven't realized it yet, would know, for what and against what maps they should vote, in order to get overall better gameplay.

Following criteria are used to rank maps:
1) Variation of tactics
2) How balanced spawns/sides of map are
3) Imbalance towards some weight classes
4) Imbalance towards some builds
5) Imbalance towards some Meta
6) Time is wasted on that map in non-playing activities

What isn't taken into account:
1) Visibility - not knowing, how to use H and N buttons - is your problem
2) Terrain - not knowing, how to properly move, navigate and choose routes - is your problem
3) Temperature - not knowing, how to manage your heat - is your problem
4) FPS - weak computer is your problem

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Disagree 98%.

What you've put up is personal preference which is almost diametrically opposite of mine, not a rating based on any objective format.

I believe this is what you call 'junk science or polls'.

I agree that Canyon Network is an excellent map. But the best..? hmmmmmm.... nope. Too small.

My top 4 consist of:
Alpine Peaks
Canyon Networks
Polar Highlands because it destroys the arena design meta.
Tourmaline Desert narrowly beating out Forest Colony because there is too little used space on Forest colony and so much beautiful open area to play in.

Edited by Kjudoon, 21 January 2016 - 08:17 AM.


#77 1Grimbane

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Posted 21 January 2016 - 08:14 AM

View PostCMDR Sunset Shimmer, on 21 January 2016 - 08:08 AM, said:


Summer... and brony's apparently.

That's if you ask /b/ anyway.

probably right on the money lol still trying to figure out why crimson strait is in the "bad" category that map rules

#78 kesmai

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Posted 21 January 2016 - 08:17 AM

View PostKjudoon, on 21 January 2016 - 08:14 AM, said:

Disagree 98%.

What you've put up is personal preference which is almost diametrically opposite of mine, not a rating based on any objective format.

I believe this is what you call 'junk science or polls'.

except the op has neither science nor a poll involved. the only thing´s left is junk.

Edited by kesmai, 21 January 2016 - 08:17 AM.


#79 Kjudoon

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Posted 21 January 2016 - 08:18 AM

View Postkesmai, on 21 January 2016 - 08:17 AM, said:

except the op has neither science nor a poll involved. the only thing´s left is junk.

Shhh! I was pretending for his sake!

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Posted 21 January 2016 - 08:26 AM

View Post1Grimbane, on 21 January 2016 - 08:14 AM, said:

probably right on the money lol still trying to figure out why crimson strait is in the "bad" category that map rules


Because the player who made the list is in the "Bad" catagory.





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