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CK16, on 19 March 2016 - 10:13 PM, said:
We seem to disagree on what we consider Clan and Inner Sphere...the Game is pretty Black and White on this matter, so is much of lore on this, even Wolf in Exile is still considered a clan, they follow clan traditions they might ally with some of the House factions from time to time, but they don't share their mechs with them, quiaff?
You keep arguing a losing point... and this one paragraph ALONE makes it clear you have literally no idea what you're talking about.
Since you've shown yourself to be on the new side when it comes to your history with Mechwarrior, and even more novice with lore, I suggest wholeheartedly that you learn and then come back to the argument.
You can start, perhaps, with Wolf-in-Exile. With Wolf's trajectory from chosen of Kerensky, to delayer of Invasion, to conquerer of the Sphere, to honorer of truces, and to shield of the Sphere.
Maybe find out what happens to WiE when they leave the Clans. What do they immediately do once they get to Arc-Royal? Your entire characterization of WiE's involvement with the Sphere shows a severe lack of understanding. Of what makes WiE, NC, GB different from other Clans.
You're holding onto a straw here... a small and insignificant straw. And you're holding on so tightly that logic obviously cannot be governing that. I see Ghost Bear next to your name. Do you know what their trajectory is? They move to the Inner Sphere long before that MkII is released.
You don't seem to read what I write. You don't seem to understand the position here. You keep arguing against what the source says... on which you're wrong. You keep trying to say PGI won't follow lore, even though all indication is that they do. And on that point you're, again, wrong. You keep trying to say what PGI will or won't do... even though they've either been specific against doing what you want, or haven't said at all.
You have a clear bias. You WANT the MkII, and you WANT it as Clan, no matter what the facts or PGI have to say on the matter. And as you've made clear... you don't care what anyone has to say, not even PGI... about if or when it's going to be released... how, to what faction, into what game environment - you're going to continue to believe what you want.
Here's the thing... what mechs and tech are on what side of a conflict in Battletech is ALWAYS black and white. Thankfully it's all written down for us so we always know. And another thing... it's always changing too. MWO? PGI has always intended for the state of the game to reflect the state of the Inner Sphere. It's supposed to be a changing environment, just as the galaxy changed from year to year. PGI is following lore... not your particular opinion of what makes what faction what. I'm telling you, in a million different ways, WHAT Battletech has to say on the matter.
You can choose, as you have been, to ignore what the source says. You can stamp your feet and go "No, No, No!" It's a child's tantrum, nothing more. But PGI? Given the scope of the game, they've done a bang-up job sticking to source so far. Perfect, no. But close enough.
What they do about the MkII depends on what they want to do about lore, and whether or not they want their game around in 5 years. The MkII presents a series of problems that have to be addressed sooner or later. I'd rather them be addressed sooner. It seems a lot of folks would agree. But we're not children throwing a hissy fit.
and somehow we fought for Tukayyad and forgot, then fought for it again. CW and Tukayyad is like the movie Ground Hog Day.
