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[Deathlike]

Quicksilver Kalasa, on 13 April 2016 - 09:25 PM, said:

I would steal that if I could, if only so I don't have to bother leveling the crappy heroes (which are quite a plenty) or the Archers.

The solution to that is... not buying them.



I have too many mechs, and haven't touched stuff I bought (real and fake money).

[Random Carnage]

No. ,,l,, this sh*t.

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

Why would it matter? Its not like they wont push this **** through regardless of how many supporters they get

[Satan n stuff]

I have about 18 months of premium time stored up, so I don't exactly need an exp boost.
Comparing 10% for 8 months to the 50% boost you get from premium time it's only about 50 days worth of premium time in bonus exp, half that if you value the exp and cbill bonuses equally because you don't get any cbill bonuses.

Going with the assumption that you value exp and cbill bonuses equally, you can get the same value ( 25 days of premium time ) by buying 3K MC for $14.95 and 30 days of premium time for 2.5K MC, that equates to $10.38 per 25 days.
All in all, it's just not a very good deal because you can also spend $6.57 per 25 days buying in bulk, getting 25K MC for $99.95 and buying 365 days of premium time for 24K MC.

You can do even better if you wait for discounts, you can easily get the same for half that or less.

Edited by Satan n stuff, 14 April 2016 - 02:09 AM.

[WarHippy]

Prosperity Park, on 13 April 2016 - 01:00 PM, said:

I am betting that's because you have already leveled everything up, right? Or, do you play often enough that stuff gets leveled overnight?

That 10% XP boost that lasts for 8 months for just $10 sounds pretty darn good to me, as I can't just get stuff leveled right away (not enough time)

I'm just saying I don't see any reason to do it. I'm fully aware some will find it appealing, but the OP was asking if each of us individually was planning on buying this to support the tournament and for me personally I see no reason to.

That being said, you are right that I do have a lot of mechs leveled, but I also have a sizable amount that I still need to level. The thing is given the nerfs to the skill trees the need to get them leveled has diminished a great deal let alone the need to do so quickly and a 10% bonus is not really anything to write home about anyway. Champion mechs used to have a 10% bonus to XP as well and that wasn't exactly moving product so they were upped to 30%. Like I said if others see it as a good deal and jump on board then great, but to me there is nothing here that I actually care about enough to bother with it.

[Dino Might]

Prosperity Park, on 13 April 2016 - 01:35 PM, said:

I see a bunch of I Will Not Support PGI... So, you think there should not be tournaments until the game is made to your specific demands?

Okay, let's wait until all weapon stats are reverted to pure TT values and the timeline is rolled back to 3025 with no Clans. Also, we need Clans to enter the game with 8v12 matchmaking and weapon values right out of TT. And, we need all weapons to have 10 second recycle rates, and put minimum ranges in for Gauss and AC/2,5.

Also, we need to enforce stock-loadouts only, with hardpoints size restrictions when you change weapons, and engines should only be changed if there is a direct, non-rounded engine size equivalent to drop in for that weight class to enforce proper hex movements. Also, you should be able to change your engine as you wish, as long as it's within a given range.

Oh, and we cannot forget that weapons and ES should be locked on IS Mechs because changing the structure or weapons on a battlemech involves too much work, but ES should be unlocked for underperforming Clan Mechs. And UAVs should be removed from the game, and we need mobile repair bases that can heal a damaged Mech in less than a minute.

While we are at it, we also need a better economy so there is less grind, so we should be able to salvage enemy units and get them online for the next battle in less than a minute, but we need a campaign system that takes Mechs out of commission for a long while when they are destroyed. But, in the name of Lore and realism, you should be stuck with the same Mech you inherited from your father for decades and not be able to change Mechs.

Anything else I missed? When we can get ALL these into the game, will you then support it?

I must have missed something. I saw almost as many "yes" responses as "no" responses, and the "no" responses didn't demand anything of the sort. I think you are projecting a bit much, here.

For me, the answer is no, simply because it's not worth $10 to me. No hate to anyone that supports it - it's obviously worth it to them. Go for it!

[iLLcapitan]

wonderful coloured salt in this one!

[WarHippy]

Dino Might, on 14 April 2016 - 05:41 AM, said:

I must have missed something. I saw almost as many "yes" responses as "no" responses, and the "no" responses didn't demand anything of the sort. I think you are projecting a bit much, here.

For me, the answer is no, simply because it's not worth $10 to me. No hate to anyone that supports it - it's obviously worth it to them. Go for it!

I have to agree. I'm not sure what he was going on about in that post. When he made that post four said the would be supporting it, five said maybe, two were talking about the look of the dropship, and six said no because it didn't appeal. Where he got the idea there was this long list of demands etc. before people would support it is beyond me, but it sure seems like he was projecting a lot.

[Jon Gotham]

If it was a charity donation sure, but to then give that money to other players? Nope.

[Damia Savon]

I am going to support it because I was the tournament to completely and utterly fail. That is the only way Russ is going to give up on this idiotic "esport" notion that is draining time, money, and personal from improving the game.

The Overlord is ******** of the BT universe.

[PyckenZot]

[Almond Brown]

Damia Savon, on 14 April 2016 - 06:35 AM, said:

I am going to support it because I was the tournament to completely and utterly fail. That is the only way Russ is going to give up on this idiotic "esport" notion that is draining time, money, and personal from improving the game.

The Overlord is ******** of the BT universe.

Wow! Just Wow! With so many facts being presented, how can anyone ever think that post is just not a HATER's gonna HATE vomit fest... like really. So factually filled it is almost impressive the research that had to be done, right in PGI's actual offices, to get so many facts.

Very impressive indeed and thanks for sharing. LOL This place is still funny...

Edited by Almond Brown, 14 April 2016 - 07:45 AM.

[Quicksilver Aberration]

Deathlike, on 13 April 2016 - 09:26 PM, said:

The solution to that is... not buying them.



I have too many mechs, and haven't touched stuff I bought (real and fake money).

The OCD doesn't let me, gotta......collect (and master)....them all.......

[TLBFestus]

Tristan Winter, on 13 April 2016 - 12:47 PM, said:

https://mwomercs.com...-the-tournament

You get

A 10% boost to all of your XP earnings. Duration over which the Boost is active is defined as starting from the time of your Tournament Supporter Pack purchase until December 3rd at 11:59:59 PM PDT / December 4th at 7:55 AM UTC
1 Overlord Dropship Standing Cockpit Item
1 Globe Warhorn Mounted Cockpit Item
1 Tournament Medallion Hanging Cockpit Item
1 Badge
1 Title: "The Patron"

You pledge $10 and half goes to the prize pool.

Are you buying? Not buying?

I did not read this before, so surprise, surprise, I will NOT.

My buddies were talking about entering it for laughs, we would surely get shredded in our first match, but I've been troubled by the idea of entering a tournament I think is simply giving money away to the minority in the game.

Seeing this, I'm definitely out. I guess it turns out that the much vaunted "Sponsors" are us, at least in part.

So, nope...sorry to my friends, I'm not participating so Russ can give the Competitive boys money all the while screwing the rest of us with inflated prices.

Prosperity Park, on 13 April 2016 - 01:35 PM, said:

I see a bunch of I Will Not Support PGI... So, you think there should not be tournaments until the game is made to your specific demands?

Okay, let's wait until all weapon stats are reverted to pure TT values and the timeline is rolled back to 3025 with no Clans. Also, we need Clans to enter the game with 8v12 matchmaking and weapon values right out of TT. And, we need all weapons to have 10 second recycle rates, and put minimum ranges in for Gauss and AC/2,5.

Also, we need to enforce stock-loadouts only, with hardpoints size restrictions when you change weapons, and engines should only be changed if there is a direct, non-rounded engine size equivalent to drop in for that weight class to enforce proper hex movements. Also, you should be able to change your engine as you wish, as long as it's within a given range.

Oh, and we cannot forget that weapons and ES should be locked on IS Mechs because changing the structure or weapons on a battlemech involves too much work, but ES should be unlocked for underperforming Clan Mechs. And UAVs should be removed from the game, and we need mobile repair bases that can heal a damaged Mech in less than a minute.

While we are at it, we also need a better economy so there is less grind, so we should be able to salvage enemy units and get them online for the next battle in less than a minute, but we need a campaign system that takes Mechs out of commission for a long while when they are destroyed. But, in the name of Lore and realism, you should be stuck with the same Mech you inherited from your father for decades and not be able to change Mechs.

Anything else I missed? When we can get ALL these into the game, will you then support it?

Prosperity Park, on 13 April 2016 - 02:39 PM, said:

Lol. You won't fund PGI because you want to money to go elsewhere within PGI, as if they have a "tournament department" that keeps it all for themselves if you buy a supporter pack.

As far as the above comments, I think it's a case of someone who has their PGI cheerleader Pom-Poms surgically attached at the wrists and can't drop them ever. All dissent must be crushed.

Edited by TLBFestus, 14 April 2016 - 09:17 AM.

[DjPush]

MMmmmmmm..... Nah. I have given enough moneys to the game. I don't need any more fluff.

[Afuldan McKronik]

Would you be more willing to buy the support pack if all $10 went into a PvE mode, or AI support for the current 12v12 modes?

[Bilbo]

Afuldan McKronik, on 14 April 2016 - 10:02 AM, said:

Would you be more willing to buy the support pack if all $10 went into a PvE mode, or AI support for the current 12v12 modes?

No. I'd prefer PvE was in an wholly separate game.

[Nyte Kitsune]

Pfft! 10$ to show more support for PGI and get a 10%XP boost and some "Fluff" cockpit items? Sure.. I have a lot of mechs I need to level and that 10% XP boost will be nice for the duration...and I admit the decorations don't look bad.

....and Bilbo.... We're getting a separate PvE game... they didn't say when (Big surprise), but there will be a "Offline" PVE Mechwarrior game, so why not toss them 10$ as incentive to get that ball rolling faster. As much as I enjoy FW and Quick Drops (Yes, even those horribly mismatched matches where you're destined to lose), I'm looking forward to actually having a story to play thru, PGI's mechs look great and playing thru a story in them will be nice.

[Bilbo]

Nyte Kitsune, on 14 April 2016 - 10:38 AM, said:

Pfft! 10$ to show more support for PGI and get a 10%XP boost and some "Fluff" cockpit items? Sure.. I have a lot of mechs I need to level and that 10% XP boost will be nice for the duration...and I admit the decorations don't look bad.

....and Bilbo.... We're getting a separate PvE game... they didn't say when (Big surprise), but there will be a "Offline" PVE Mechwarrior game, so why not toss them 10$ as incentive to get that ball rolling faster. As much as I enjoy FW and Quick Drops (Yes, even those horribly mismatched matches where you're destined to lose), I'm looking forward to actually having a story to play thru, PGI's mechs look great and playing thru a story in them will be nice.

I've already tossed them $10 a couple hundred times over. If they offer something that interests me I'll get it. Nothing in this deal interests me.

Edited by Bilbo, 14 April 2016 - 10:45 AM.

[Afuldan McKronik]

Nyte Kitsune, on 14 April 2016 - 10:38 AM, said:

Pfft! 10$ to show more support for PGI and get a 10%XP boost and some "Fluff" cockpit items? Sure.. I have a lot of mechs I need to level and that 10% XP boost will be nice for the duration...and I admit the decorations don't look bad.

....and Bilbo.... We're getting a separate PvE game... they didn't say when (Big surprise), but there will be a "Offline" PVE Mechwarrior game, so why not toss them 10$ as incentive to get that ball rolling faster. As much as I enjoy FW and Quick Drops (Yes, even those horribly mismatched matches where you're destined to lose), I'm looking forward to actually having a story to play thru, PGI's mechs look great and playing thru a story in them will be nice.

I think having the Hero mechs being piloted by AI "Heros" from lore would be pretty cool. Only way to get them would be to non critically destroy them. No CT core outs.