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[LegendaryArticuno]

I'm all for powercreep. I dont want to buy Archer level mechs again.

[Navid A1]

LegendaryArticuno, on 15 April 2016 - 06:15 AM, said:

I'm all for powercreep. I dont want to buy Archer level mechs again.

Archers... are bad?... lol no. Try the 5W.

And by all means... it was about time the clans get a capable assault mech

[Snowbluff]

Navid A1, on 15 April 2016 - 06:18 AM, said:

And by all means... it was about time the clans get a capable assault mech

Yep. Basically, I haven't bought any assaults because of the limitations of the clan assaults compared to my timbie. I wasn't something that did something different. :l

[FalconerGray]

I see something slightly interesting regarding the cries of 'powercreep', being that with the exception of the Unseens, the new shiny obsoleting powercreepers could just as easily have been released before the newly superseded, right?

So if the situation was reversed with the Kodiak being the first Clan 100 tonner and Dire Wolf being the new released, would there still be cries of 'DOA', etc?

Or is this all an intentional strategy by PGI, because they fear that releasing all the 'best' mechs prior to the 'worst' would mean that no one would ever buy anything new again?

Not saying anyone is right or wrong here, it's just a curious thought I had...

[Lorian Sunrider]

Not gonna check all nine pages to see if anyone else has commented on it, but I love the PPC bellybutton.

[Scout Derek]

Navid A1, on 14 April 2016 - 09:51 PM, said:

The difference between those two images is day and night.... in terms of proportions i mean, individual parts may be similar, yet the proportions of each part with respect to the rest of the mech is what makes or breaks the final model.

It is even enough for Russ, to say:

I think I understand now. Seems reasonable considering the height of it's CT. Sure it's width is fine, but now that I look at it, it's height is longer than the concept now.

[fyurian]

92Tons of hardware mounted on that SS.... (FYI yes i am aware that it is to show off HardPoints mounts)
Hope it is what i payed for (bought it for looks not powercreep)
4uac 5and 6lpl to troll: show meeeh

[CK16]

fyurian, on 15 April 2016 - 06:53 AM, said:

92Tons of hardware mounted on that SS.... (FYI yes i am aware that it is to show off HardPoints mounts)
Hope it is what i payed for (bought it for looks not powercreep)
4uac 5and 6lpl to troll: show meeeh

Except the KDK-3 is the only one with 4 Ballistic slots and 4 energy. Imo I forsee either Er mediums or Small pulse in those 4 slots.

[pbiggz]

dervishx5, on 14 April 2016 - 03:58 PM, said:

A good mech is not power creep. Not every mech pgi releases has to be garbage, nor should any mech pgi releases be garbage.

[The Basilisk]

I find all this comparing of carrots to apples bothersome.

Does the Mauler obsolete the Dire ....?
No ! Its logicaly impossible. Since the Mauler is an IS Mech and not Clan.

Makes the Mauler the Atlas or the Kingcrab obsolete ?
No again. Atlas is a brawly tanky diveres Weapons Mech and Mauler a squishy AC/ LURM boat.
They got completely different roles.
The Kingcrab may be used for AC 5 carrying by some ppl but...well there are always ppl that cant be helped.
So does the Kodiak make the Direwolf obsolete ?
Well...we will see. The Dire is feared for his multi AC builds and his Gauss and PPC builds.
If you put quad UAC10 on Kodiak you use 40 tonns and you'll need to use a standart reactor.
300 will take up an other 25 tonns. Now you need at least 8 tonns of ammo and some heatsinks and then you still got no gramm of armor....that sounds a bit .... problematic not to say squishy.
I do not think this will be a viable build.
What we will see a lot are quad UAC5 + LPLs builds.
Maybe an accumulation of smal weapons like quad Uac2 with medlaser and 400XL engine.
But ultimately he cant do better things than the Dire AND he has a humanoid and quite broad shape so...the good old whale will be more tanky than the Bear.

[Gas Guzzler]

The Basilisk, on 15 April 2016 - 08:27 AM, said:

I find all this comparing of carrots to apples bothersome.

Does the Mauler obsolete the Dire ....?
No ! Its logicaly impossible. Since the Mauler is an IS Mech and not Clan.

Makes the Mauler the Atlas or the Kingcrab obsolete ?
No again. Atlas is a brawly tanky diveres Weapons Mech and Mauler a squishy AC/ LURM boat.
They got completely different roles.
The Kingcrab may be used for AC 5 carrying by some ppl but...well there are always ppl that cant be helped.
So does the Kodiak make the Direwolf obsolete ?
Well...we will see. The Dire is feared for his multi AC builds and his Gauss and PPC builds.
If you put quad UAC10 on Kodiak you use 40 tonns and you'll need to use a standart reactor.
300 will take up an other 25 tonns. Now you need at least 8 tonns of ammo and some heatsinks and then you still got no gramm of armor....that sounds a bit .... problematic not to say squishy.
I do not think this will be a viable build.
What we will see a lot are quad UAC5 + LPLs builds.
Maybe an accumulation of smal weapons like quad Uac2 with medlaser and 400XL engine.
But ultimately he cant do better things than the Dire AND he has a humanoid and quite broad shape so...the good old whale will be more tanky than the Bear.

Just wanted to chime in to inform you that you can do the quad UAC10 build with an XL engine.

[pbiggz]

Gas Guzzler, on 15 April 2016 - 08:29 AM, said:

Just wanted to chime in to inform you that you can do the quad UAC10 build with an XL engine.

He doesn't know yet... He doesn't understand...

[GreenHell]

Gas Guzzler, on 15 April 2016 - 08:29 AM, said:

Just wanted to chime in to inform you that you can do the quad UAC10 build with an XL engine.

Yup. Don't forget kids, this is all Clam-Tech we're talking about. Only 2 slots per ST for the Clam XL engines, and the UAC/10's are smaller than the Pearl AC/10's as well, only taking up 4 slots each. You'd actually have 2 slots leftover in each ST. Clams vs. Pearls = Pearls big and heavy / Clams small and light.

[GreenHell]

As a side note, I think that everyone who plays MWO should have these two programs on their computers.

This first one is a tabletop mech builder that allows you to build custom mechs (or view stock ones) according to the TT rules. It is an essential tool for "theory crafting" builds for mechs that aren't out yet.
http://www.solarisskunkwerks.com/

The second one is made for mechs that are in game already, and I think it is superior to smurffy. Give it a shot. (Download ver 1.7.2 for now while Emily updates to ver2.0. The previews are a bit buggy)
http://emilybjoerk.github.io/lsml/

[CK16]

Doesn't the KDK-3 come stock with an XL400 and 4 LBX-20's (2 per ST).....just saying..

NVM re-read that part, was mistaking ammo for another LBX my bad people!

Edited by CK16, 15 April 2016 - 09:21 AM.

[Felbombling]

I bought the Kodiak pack, and I have to admit that the weapon mounts are fantastic. Even though I bought the package, I kind of wish the top mounts were tucked in above the waistline, not higher than the cockpit. I think it would have been best to keep the high shoulder mounts for missiles, instead of trying to wrap them around a high ballistic mount. Hill-humping, be damned.

[Juodas Varnas]

God damn Clanners.

[Narcissistic Martyr]

pbiggz, on 15 April 2016 - 07:36 AM, said:

A good mech is not power creep. Not every mech pgi releases has to be garbage, nor should any mech pgi releases be garbage.

Whether the kodiak will be power creep or not will very much depend on if it completely obsoletes/eclipses the other assault mechs. With the ability to change engine size, no fixed components, and a good selection of hard points... I have trouble seeing how the kodiak won't simply replace the executioner and direwolf.

[pbiggz]

Narcissistic Martyr, on 15 April 2016 - 09:11 AM, said:

Whether the kodiak will be power creep or not will very much depend on if it completely obsoletes/eclipses the other assault mechs. With the ability to change engine size, no fixed components, and a good selection of hard points... I have trouble seeing how the kodiak won't simply replace the executioner and direwolf.

You are right, but also wrong. The issue in my eyes isn't the kodiak, its the direwolf, and other omnimechs, all of which operate under a set of build rules that present very little value to MWO, and screws over well over half of clan omnimechs. All hardpoint swapping does is make sure the good omnimechs are better, but the bad omnimechs are always going to be bad because hardpoints cant fix their bad engine sizes, low podspace or fixed equipment issues.

[CK16]

pbiggz, on 15 April 2016 - 09:16 AM, said:

You are right, but also wrong. The issue in my eyes isn't the kodiak, its the direwolf, and other omnimechs, all of which operate under a set of build rules that present very little value to MWO, and screws over well over half of clan omnimechs. All hardpoint swapping does is make sure the good omnimechs are better, but the bad omnimechs are always going to be bad because hardpoints cant fix their bad engine sizes, low podspace or fixed equipment issues.

Yes but you can not play lego mech with the Kodiak, IMO it will be a great addition to the Clans, it should give us an Atlas like mech for up close, the Direwolf will be better IMO at range, it is still a slightly smaller target. BOTH are not something you want to walk around and meet though in a dark alley way, or really any place O.o

Also YAS all the Freebirth tears! I shall use them for coolant for my Kodiak's massive not crappy XL400