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#21 Mystere

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Posted 28 April 2016 - 07:52 AM

View PostLordNothing, on 28 April 2016 - 05:02 AM, said:

id rather take an adder or an ice ferret.


I have two words for you: "jump" and "jets". Posted Image

View Postpattonesque, on 28 April 2016 - 07:47 AM, said:

The Viper stands a really good chance of being a good 'mech for the scouting mode.

Bring four Vipers, split them into two pairs, load up on ECM and SPL, and they can outrun anything that can kill them and leg anything that can catch them


ECM?

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Posted 28 April 2016 - 07:55 AM

View PostGas Guzzler, on 28 April 2016 - 07:22 AM, said:

It doesn't have less podspace, in fact you can run 6 cSPLs, and 3 double heatsinks by shaving half a ton off of your left arm. Added bonus is when you lose your arms you still have 4 lasers (5 with the C) while Cheetahs are stuck with 2, maybe 3 if ECM is skipped). I'm looking forward to th he Viper personally. Perfect speed for a 40 tonner and plenty of hardpoints.

Sadly only 8 free tons... so I can see only 6ersl+2smr4 build there.... despite the 6 vipers offered.
Still an interesting 40 tonner, tho

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Posted 28 April 2016 - 08:05 AM

I think you need to look at it more like a Clan Raven. But with the benefit of more useful hardpoints.

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Posted 28 April 2016 - 08:17 AM

View PostJun Watarase, on 28 April 2016 - 03:14 AM, said:

Its like a 40 ton artic cheetah with no ECM, more JJs and less podspace. Like...why? You may as well run an artic cheetah.


It is pointless.

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Posted 28 April 2016 - 08:25 AM

View PostLordNothing, on 28 April 2016 - 05:02 AM, said:

id rather take an adder or an ice ferret.

and someone else would rather take the Viper. Funny how that works. And now both of you can have your wish.

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Posted 28 April 2016 - 08:33 AM

View PostStefka Kerensky, on 28 April 2016 - 07:55 AM, said:

Sadly only 8 free tons... so I can see only 6ersl+2smr4 build there.... despite the 6 vipers offered.
Still an interesting 40 tonner, tho

6 ERSL (3 per arm)
1 Flamer (CT)
4 MGs (2 per ST)
MG Ammo x 2.5
CAP

Seems like a fun loadout to me.

View PostScarecrowES, on 28 April 2016 - 08:05 AM, said:

I think you need to look at it more like a Clan Raven. But with the benefit of more useful hardpoints.

and no ECM.

View Postpbiggz, on 28 April 2016 - 08:17 AM, said:


It is pointless.

I doubt it. But even if it magically became the go to meta medium, I'm pretty sure you'd keep believing that.

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Posted 28 April 2016 - 08:41 AM

More Pod Space
More Armour
More hardpoints


It will not be a bad robot

#28 CDLord HHGD

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Posted 28 April 2016 - 08:54 AM

View PostDingo Red, on 28 April 2016 - 03:49 AM, said:

What if... not everything new in this game had to be there to power creep the meta and give you the latest competitive edge?

So much this!

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Edited by CD LoreHammer Lord, 28 April 2016 - 08:56 AM.


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Posted 28 April 2016 - 08:56 AM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 28 April 2016 - 08:33 AM, said:

6 ERSL (3 per arm)
1 Flamer (CT)
4 MGs (2 per ST)
MG Ammo x 2.5
CAP


Fun for sure. But mg needs some love.
My Ember is still sitting in the dark corner, alone and sad.

Next townhall, let's ask for the umpteenth time to give back some crit/dmg for mg.....

#30 Lucian Nostra

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Posted 28 April 2016 - 08:57 AM

The point is to make people rage because it's not super power creep meta pwnmobile 9001.

It has its uses, people will play it, if you don't like it there is this awesome awesome AWESOME ability you have called "don't obtain it"

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Posted 28 April 2016 - 11:03 AM

View PostCD LoreHammer Lord, on 28 April 2016 - 08:54 AM, said:

So much this!

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LOL that is a greate meme, well done sir, well done.

#32 C E Dwyer

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Posted 28 April 2016 - 11:08 AM

I might buckle and throw $20 at it lol, not sure still, depends on release dates for the Crusader wasp/stinger heh so I might after the town hall get silly, and buy big if I get a yup in game before HBS cut off point.

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Posted 28 April 2016 - 11:11 AM

View PostDingo Red, on 28 April 2016 - 03:49 AM, said:

What if... not everything new in this game had to be there to power creep the meta and give you the latest competitive edge?


What if...they actually introduced a 40 ton mech that was substantially different from the existing mechs? You know, to provide variety?

Like the shadowcat is substantially different from the nova...now imagine that instead of the shadow cat we just got a 45 tonner that was pretty much the same as the nova. Now imagine if all the mechs in a particular weight class were very similar to each other.

What would be the point of this, instead of introducing mechs that have distinct roles and different config options?

Granted, they could make it substantially different from the artic cheetah through quirks, but :

>lol clan quirks

Coming in 2018 maybe. Terrible clan mechs like the nova have been out for like, 2 years and still haven't gotten decent quirks.

Edited by Jun Watarase, 28 April 2016 - 11:16 AM.


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Posted 28 April 2016 - 11:12 AM

It will be a nice backstabbing medium range mech, due to its high mobility.

I will go for a 4-5x ERMLas build. Jumping on top of stuff and poking the baddies from the high ground.

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Posted 28 April 2016 - 11:24 AM

View PostDingo Red, on 28 April 2016 - 03:49 AM, said:

What if... not everything new in this game had to be there to power creep the meta and give you the latest competitive edge?

It's an arena shooter... are you serious?

We're not playing a ******* RPG.

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Posted 28 April 2016 - 11:29 AM

View PostKinLuu, on 28 April 2016 - 11:12 AM, said:

It will be a nice backstabbing medium range mech, due to its high mobility.

I will go for a 4-5x ERMLas build. Jumping on top of stuff and poking the baddies from the high ground.


A Shadow Cat armed with a gauss is much better at that. Targets cannot fathom that they were being shot from waaaay up there. Posted Image

View PostYosharian, on 28 April 2016 - 11:24 AM, said:

It's an arena shooter... are you serious?


I think we should ask you that question.

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Posted 28 April 2016 - 11:30 AM

One gauss is pathetic damage. 5x ERMLas on the other hand...

#38 TooDumbToQuit

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Posted 28 April 2016 - 11:30 AM

No ECM? Ouch, I funked up.....can you get out if you have already preordered?

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Posted 28 April 2016 - 11:36 AM

Around 140 kph? Check.
6 SPL and 4 MGs? Check.
8 JJs? Check.

I think I'll like it.

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Posted 28 April 2016 - 11:36 AM

View PostYosharian, on 28 April 2016 - 11:24 AM, said:

We're not playing a ******* RPG.

I wish we were, the game would be SOOOOO much better for it.





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