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[Jack Rueger]

Since PGI has raised the tonnage on quick play, those of us who do not own assaults cant get KMDDs any more. Kodiaks need to be nerfed, and the tonnage needs to be lowered back to where it was.

[Mystere]

Huh?! I'm doing just fine while leveling my Jenner IICs. Of course, I'm being predatory while playing, which helps.

[Wintersdark]

Sorry, but this is a git gud moment.

If you don't want to git gud? Well, all those Kodiak's everywhere? Grab a mad dog, or archer, or some silly lurm mech. Pelt them with LRM's. Many lurms. You'll do lots of largely ideas damage but it'll ensure kmmd's when they die. Done.

Mystere, on 21 May 2016 - 06:25 PM, said:

Huh?! I'm doing just fine while leveling my Jenner IICs. Of course, I'm being predatory while playing, which helps.

This is an utter playground for light mechs. People with Oxides must be having the time of their life, but really any decent light mech. Everything on the field is fat and slow.

[Jack Rueger]

I am a newer player and I don't own any of those, events should be playable by newer players, but it seems like in this game newer players are only here to be victimized. Seals to club. (as someone said in another post)

[Mystere]

Wintersdark, on 21 May 2016 - 06:27 PM, said:

This is an utter playground for light mechs. People with Oxides must be having the time of their life, but really any decent light mech. Everything on the field is fat and slow.

That's the rationale I used to choose my play style for the weekend.

[Kangarad]

The kodiacs aint the problem if your going for kmdds. there are mechs more poweerfull like the kingcrab or more tanky like the Atlas, and both can solokill many KDK's (or whatever else steps in your way.

Actualy since I man Kingcrabs this was the first thing I got done.

[eminus]

The great fabled locusts is your answer OP

[DeaconW]

Jack Rueger, on 21 May 2016 - 06:30 PM, said:

... it seems like in this game newer players are only here to be victimized. Seals to club. (as someone said in another post)

Just makes you want to buy MC, doesn't it? Welcome to MWO...

[Mcgral18]

Remove STs, get KMDD

[Wintersdark]

Mystere, on 21 May 2016 - 06:30 PM, said:

That's the rationale I used to choose my play style for the weekend.

I'm levelling my KDK's through it (don't care about the leaderboards though, I never buy pilot skills till I can get them all)... and I swear, of my deaths, more than 3/4's are due to pesky lights. There's not too many in matches (likely due to the pilots also levelling KDK's) but I see those that are around getting brutally high scores.

[Chimera_]

Given how many horrible Kodiak pilots I've seen (the majority right now) I really don't see how you could suddenly be having much more difficulty playing than before the KDKs rolled out. Are you using brawler Orion IICs against Spirit Bears or something?

Jack Rueger, on 21 May 2016 - 06:30 PM, said:

I am a newer player and I don't own any of those, events should be playable by newer players, but it seems like in this game newer players are only here to be victimized. Seals to club. (as someone said in another post)

Players are divided by tiers, so a brand new player will end up with mostly other brand new players. Until you get to tier 3 or so, your enemies are not going to be very experienced for the most part. Faction Warfare is different, since there are no tiers there.

Kodiaks are great at one thing; putting out damage. If you don't facetank them and you focus their vulnerable CTs you really shouldn't have much of a problem, for the most part. If a Kodiak tries to play like an Atlas (like many, even at higher tiers do), punish them for that.

[Aresye]

Jack Rueger, on 21 May 2016 - 06:22 PM, said:

Since PGI has raised the tonnage on quick play, those of us who do not own assaults cant get KMDDs any more. Kodiaks need to be nerfed, and the tonnage needs to be lowered back to where it was.

I completely forgot there was a personal challenge event going on. Turns out I already had it completed. Took less than 4hrs of play time, and all I used was a 2 PPC Summoner.

Perhaps you should...git gud?

[Jonny Taco]

Generally I'd avoid an assault heavy brawl if you're not in an assault. Play the mid range dps and stay off the front line. Do this reasonably well and you will outlast and often out dps many of the KDKs that dive into the brawl early.

I know it's only tier 2 but I've regularly scored top of my team/game with mediums and heavies during the event. KDK has big ct and often likes to stare, take advantage of this.

[Wintersdark]

Jack Rueger, on 21 May 2016 - 06:30 PM, said:

I am a newer player and I don't own any of those, events should be playable by newer players, but it seems like in this game newer players are only here to be victimized. Seals to club. (as someone said in another post)

What does this have to do with new players? It's not about "clubbing seals" at all.

What mechs do you have? I'll see what sort of usable advice I can give.

With that said, event weekends always have... gimpy play, let's say. No worse for new players than non event weekends, but events in general tend to lend towards irritating player behaviour for everyone. It's a sad but unavoidable consequence of wanting to have events for new mechs. And these events serve a real purpose, in addition to being sort of marketing for the new mechs.

[Jack Rueger]

once again I do not own any of these mechs you talk about, I am a newer player so I dont understand what ST or any of the other abbreviations mean, and no I am not going to pay real money for a game that punishes newer players.

[Wintersdark]

Chimera11, on 21 May 2016 - 06:36 PM, said:

Given how many horrible Kodiak pilots I've seen (the majority right now) I really don't see how you could suddenly be having much more difficulty playing than before the KDKs rolled out. Are you using brawler Orion IICs against Spirit Bears or something?

He's new, so he's not going to have a skill advantage against the terribad KDK pilots.

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Players are divided by tiers, so a brand new player will end up with mostly other brand new players. Until you get to tier 3 or so, your enemies are not going to be very experienced for the most part. Faction Warfare is different, since there are no tiers there.

Well, what's happening is the absurd Assault queue is fuckering the matchmaker, so it's slipping tier bounds while it slips weight class bounds. So, matches where there's 5+ assaults are also full tier spread matches.

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Kodiaks are great at one thing; putting out damage. If you don't facetank them and you focus their vulnerable CTs you really shouldn't have much of a problem, for the most part. If a Kodiak tries to play like an Atlas (like many, even at higher tiers do), punish them for that.

Yup.

[Jack Rueger]

Wintersdark, on 21 May 2016 - 06:39 PM, said:

What does this have to do with new players? It's not about "clubbing seals" at all.

What mechs do you have? I'll see what sort of usable advice I can give.

With that said, event weekends always have... gimpy play, let's say. No worse for new players than non event weekends, but events in general tend to lend towards irritating player behaviour for everyone. It's a sad but unavoidable consequence of wanting to have events for new mechs. And these events serve a real purpose, in addition to being sort of marketing for the new mechs.

The only gimps are on my team every game, I have tried all the trial mechs they all suck, I own 2 storm crows, but they just overheat too fast to do any damage.

[LordNothing]

now is a very good time to run light mechs and faster mediums. with so many people running assaults, especially people who do not normally run assaults, who are not good at light countering tactics, there is so much meat out there if you are willing to stab it in the back.

Edited by LordNothing, 21 May 2016 - 06:45 PM.

[Wintersdark]

Jack Rueger, on 21 May 2016 - 06:42 PM, said:

once again I do not own any of these mechs you talk about, I am a newer player so I dont understand what ST or any of the other abbreviations mean, and no I am not going to pay real money for a game that punishes newer players.

ST: Side Torso. CT: Center Torso.

The game has a steep learning curve. Nothing to be done about that and keep it a MechWarrior game though. The answer is purely in "Get Better", and we're here to help. I'm not expecting you to buy anything.

I'm trying to help you here, but I need you to help me do that. What mechs do you have?

[Moldur]

I think the game has gotten a lot better with a ton of assaults in every game.