Darth Hotz, on 18 July 2016 - 02:06 PM, said:
OMG, this crap talk. Why are the other Kodiaks dead? They loose agility and gain armour. So how are they dead?
Really, some of you people where just so spoiled by the times of clan easy mode that you forgot how to deal with non easy mode mechs and tend to panic for nothing. Take the current patch and the one before and tell me which side got nerfed more.
Whenever PGI will give the IS an completely overpowered mech and clanners ask to nerf it, shall the answer be "Cant do this, because they might also nerf the other chassis too. So the OP mech has stay for good"?
Nobody was arguing against the KDK-3 getting hit. We all knew it was inevitable. Hell, I'm surprised it didn't get RedQuirked into stupidity, given how much the majority of the Ultracomp Scene wanted it
utterly destroyed. Mischief and McGral both were right up there at the forefront, both Names People Listen To, pushing for it to be removed from competitive viability because it's not a Manshee or a Bauller. As were you, come to think of it. So hey -
glad ya got what ya wanted!
Removing the vast majority of the mobility of a chassis that generally depended on its above-average mobility to not be free meat for any other reasonably powerful assault 'Mech - across the board, not just on the KDK-3 - and replacing it with utterly ignorable, barely-even-token structure quirks does not really work. The Kodiak is
overwhelmingly huge, bigger than the Atlass, and with the sole exception of the KDK-3 (and the Spirit Bear, which is dead because it's now an AS7-S with half the durability, none of the weapon tweaks, and no significant edge in agility outside of its M.A.S.C. being active) they all rely on low-slung, easily-lost arm-mounted weaponry to a greater or less extent. As opposed to high-mounted, tight-in, easily-protected ST sniper cannons, a'la Manshees and Baullers.
I love how this is all "Oh boo hoo no more Clanz OP EZ Mode. Suck it up." Did you ever play the Victor, Darth? The Spirit Bear from a time before Spirit Bears were a thing? It was much the same as the SPirit Bear - abnormally agile for its size, paying for that agility with either inferior firepower or fragility as compared to the 40kph slugabed assault bloatboats 'everyone' wants in that class.
I loved my Victors. They were my first assault chassis, and the only ones I ever really connected properly with. My Warhaws came close, but I still have a special place in my heart for my old Victor memories...before Piranha decided, based on the Player Base's Whims, that anything 80 tons or up had to maneuver with all the spry responsiveness of a beached iceberg
no matter what the player did with their configuration. Run a gigantic 385XL in your Victors because you wanted a rampaging 80-ton berserker and were willing to accept the glass jaw that came with it?
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPE. Piranha says you still move like a Fatlas, no matter what engine you put in your Victor. The chassis
never recovered from the VTR Giganerf and has been bottom-rung garbage for years now.
And now we're there with the Kodiaks, too.
Every single bloody assault chassis that comes out with any sort of leaning towards Lightning Bruiser instead of all-but-pre-legged gunbag is either garbage out of the gate (Garfayles, failure-of-Executioners) or gets beaten mercilessly into the dirt until it's no longer capable of keeping up with STD-engine mediums, let alone contemporary heavies or assaults (Victurds, Nodiaks, Fattlemasters) because YOU FRIGGIN' PEOPLE CANNOT TOLERATE MOBILE THREATS YOU CAN'T INSTAGIB.
Fine. Message received. Nothing bigger than 65 tons is ever entering my hangar again, because clearly -
clearly - Piranha can't be assed to allow for the occasional exception to the Big Slow Guy rule, just to shake things up and provide interesting, different playstyles than otherwise exists in the extremely awful and same-y assault category.
Edited by 1453 R, 18 July 2016 - 04:34 PM.
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