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[Toxicresidue]

SORRY BUDDY but your new minimap sucks a*s's*! You really neeed to fix that mess,

[Thomas de Ville]

The new minimap would be usefull on a second screen and the old minimap at the good old place in the mech.
But only this map ...........
You will loose many of your loyal players, if this problem isn´t fixed fast.

[Tiantara]

- Still trying to adapt to new mini-map... still wasting Tier points in QuickGames... More thinking about LRM only mech to not thinking about directions and mini map. Not helping. I have previously recorded matches on same mech. I watching it and understand, that i can't play looking on new mini-map anymore... and also cant lay in group - because I cant understand where is who on that mini. And really miss directions arrows. Ok, let there be new icons - pretty nice one. But new map must scroll around mech. Show only 4x4 quadrant of whole map and show field of view from cockpit. Without it - map is useless and only distracts. Put a settings ability to turn it off. I'll play like a simple shooter than.

Kijahari, on 21 June 2016 - 02:18 PM, said:

If there are or were any complaints about the old minimap, I'm dying to read them!

- There was one - too bright numbers and letters in quadrant. Especially on white maps. Like with snow. Only that.

[Dorci]

W E N D I G O, on 21 June 2016 - 02:24 PM, said:

Russ posted some updates on Twitter, jfyi.

https://twitter.com/...ck/with_replies

JESUS CHRIST RUSS PLS UNDERSTAND WE DONT NEED YOUR "PERSONAL" WOT MAP!!! THIS IS MECHWARRIOR NOT WOT!!! IF I WANT A MINIMAP LIKE THIS I GO AND PLAY WOT, BUT PLEASE USE YOUR BRAIN AND DONT PUT IN A MAP LIKE THAT IN MECHWARRIOR!!! GIVE US BACK THE OLD MINIMAP, IT WILL BE GOOD IF WE CAN CHOOSE BETWEEN "CLASSIC / NEW" STYLE! (I dont mind if you completely delete this new "masterpiece"...)

Edited by Dorci, 21 June 2016 - 02:32 PM.

[Icebergdx]

According to Russ on Twitter, they are going to do a hotfix in a couple of days, but not a full rollback.

[Joe Decker]

W E N D I G O, on 21 June 2016 - 02:24 PM, said:

Russ posted some updates on Twitter, jfyi.

https://twitter.com/...ck/with_replies

Yeah twittering like crazy instead of being here on the Forums... Business as usual.

Twitter is not the right Medium to discuss Stuff - it is just for short Updates not for sharing a Vision of a Game. It is also not a good Tool to exchange Ideas as only the few short most recent Messages are seen by everyone. I do not understand why he is not on the Forums but on Twitter only.

About the Matter :

It is not about the Level of the Zoom of the Minimap or the Functionality of the Command Wheel (which I think can be a nice Tool if expanded) it is about him not understanding how important the current Minimap Functions are to this Game - especially on higher Skill Levels.

When I play MWO I got my Eyes on the Minimap 70% of the Time until I get in short Range Fights - and even then to fall back you need a working Minimap with Rotation, Autozoom, Mech directional Arrows (yours + Teammates + Enemy Team) and for an overall Overview you got the expanded Map. Was not really a Problem to use that - what they could do would be to have a transparent Overlay (optional) for what we currently got with the extended Map.

But what do you expect when he barely plays his own Game... Have seen him 1 Time in Match since I started playing in early 2013. That is not enough to understand what is going on. And you cannot only rely on third Party Information.

But as I said they roll back or I am out. Sad but true.

[RED CW]

sorry PGI, but i don't need world of tanks minimap. after 3 years of gaming, mwo uninstall. this is no mechwarrior anymore

[Der Kopfsammler]

I hate this new minimap... yeah ok, its new and stuff and apologists will probably gonna try to beat the dead horse again saying "Ohh you just have to get used to it, haarr haarrr..." and all that nonsense, but i remind you... DONT FREAKING FIX WHAT ISNT BROKEN!

The new minimap would only be OK if this was a THIRD PERSON game... and MWO has made itself clear that it isnt. we rely on our senses, and most of all, our 2 directional minimap rotating the same direction we're watching. Hell, i even used the minimap to see where were my legs turning in relation to my torso... now i cant have that... its just confusing and counter intuitive because i have no freaking idea where the enemy is in relation to me or my allies, or where exactly am i heading... forcing me to waste more time thinking where they are while im being thorn limb by limb...

FFS... who had this "brilliant" idea anyways?

Edited by Der Kopfsammler, 21 June 2016 - 02:41 PM.

[Podex]

Der Kopfsammler, on 21 June 2016 - 02:40 PM, said:

I hate this new minimap... yeah ok, its new and stuff and appologists will probably gonna try to beat the dead horse again saying "Ohh you just have to get used to it, haarr haarrr..." and all that nonsense, but i remind you... DONT FREAKING FIX WHAT ISNT BROKEN!

The new minimap would only be OK if this was a THIRD PERSON game... and MWO has made itself clear that it isnt. we rely on our senses, and most of all, our 2 directional minimap rotating the same direction we're watching. Hell, i even used the minimap to see where were my legs turning in relation to my torso... now i cant have that... its just confusing and counter intuitive because i have no freaking idea where the enemy is in relation to me or my allies, or where exactly am i heading... forcing me to waste more time thinking where they are while im being thorn limb by limb...

FFS... who had this "brilliant" idea anyways?

I'm usually that guy who defends PGI in an effort to calm people down. Not this time. It has hands down been the worst decision that they have ever made.

[BBP]

I say that we should take also a few days off from playing MWO . In almost any of the patches until now an important feature of the game is getting messed up...now its the minimap turn...Really?!

[Kijahari]

PGI, please start a poll about this minimap-thing insted of promises. We are the ones who play and pay. So give us what we want, and not what you want. At least include an option to use the old minimap. The new battlegrid is barely usable in a quickplay match. We don't need complex tactical instruments, we need the old minimap which had the information we need in the heat of battle.
I've been playing MWO for a long time now, heck I would even be a founder if I found out about the game a month earlier. I took part in every change MWO has had, good or bad. I hardly said anything, just went with it because I liked the game. But this.. really f*cked me up bigtime. Instead of investing your energy in more gameplay diversity or something as equally important, you throw a new, pointless, thoughtless and somewhat copied minimap in our faces, which you didn't let us test beforehand to get your players opinion. So start thinking again and interact better with your community, because we play the game!
Kijahari out
-End of Transmission-

[Der Kopfsammler]

Podex, on 21 June 2016 - 02:42 PM, said:

I'm usually that guy who defends PGI in an effort to calm people down. Not this time. It has hands down been the worst decision that they have ever made.

To be honest, so am i at some extent, but i was talking about the "extreme" examples of them. I defended the game like a Kingsguard on Steam while it was being harrased on lauch day... this i just cant forgive though...

Edited by Der Kopfsammler, 21 June 2016 - 02:48 PM.

[Dassh]

RED CW, on 21 June 2016 - 02:36 PM, said:

sorry PGI, but i don't need world of tanks minimap.

This.

The best thing about WoT that I don't even have to touch that lame skinnerbox. If I would like to play that game, I won't be here...
Not to mention it has a quite different gameplay with different needs.


And tbh, I don't really get what was the very reason to mess with the minimap. There are so many issues from community feedback what could be tweaked, balanced, looked into, with different priorities.
But I never ever heard anybody complaining about the minimap (except that you should watch it more frequently...).


Nonsense.

Edited by Dassh, 21 June 2016 - 02:51 PM.

[Freebrewer Bmore]

Please hotfix immediately:
-- Add a toggle to switch between old and new minimap styles.

If that is too much work for some reason then just at least revert to the old minimap for the cockpit display so people don't lose their minds. The new map style works OK for the full map view but as a cockpit display it at the very least needs a zoom feature.

So then whenever you have time to do so:
-- Add a toggled zoom feature to the cockpit minimap.
-- Add a toggle to let people choose whether or not they want the minimap to rotate as they turn their mech.

AND:
-- Add the ability to toggle the audio for command wheel communication.

Seriously, hearing the same generic voice no matter who issues the communication is not only annoying but also confusing. I want to be able to hear real VOIP chatter but just read the command wheel stuff.

Edited by Freebrewer Bmore, 21 June 2016 - 03:06 PM.

[Dassh]

Freebrewer Bmore, on 21 June 2016 - 02:58 PM, said:

-- Add the ability to toggle the audio for command wheel communication.

Seriously, hearing the same generic voice no matter who issues the communication is not only annoying but also confusing. I want to be able to hear real VOIP chatter but just read the command wheel stuff.

+1

[Rkshz]

best

Dorci, on 21 June 2016 - 02:31 PM, said:

JESUS CHRIST RUSS PLS UNDERSTAND WE DONT NEED YOUR "PERSONAL" WOT MAP!!! THIS IS MECHWARRIOR NOT WOT!!! IF I WANT A MINIMAP LIKE THIS I GO AND PLAY WOT, BUT PLEASE USE YOUR BRAIN AND DONT PUT IN A MAP LIKE THAT IN MECHWARRIOR!!! GIVE US BACK THE OLD MINIMAP, IT WILL BE GOOD IF WE CAN CHOOSE BETWEEN "CLASSIC / NEW" STYLE! (I dont mind if you completely delete this new "masterpiece"...)

[STEEL JUSTICE]

Very very very BAD update.
My mech is very big and die in few sec,the faction wars is not having fun anymore the update is disaster.

Edited by STEEL JUSTICE, 21 June 2016 - 03:06 PM.

[skatenok]

[Mineirinho]

Back with the old minimap!!!

[EL VIEJO LEMURO LOCO]

THIS GAME IS NOT PLAYABLE ANYMORE!!