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#1 Alistair Winter

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Posted 06 July 2016 - 04:21 AM

I know there's a lot of discontent lately. Personally, I haven't really played for about a week. I may stay away until the next patch. But... that Viper does look great tho.

There's something about this sort of chicken legs, torso and arms that just screams realism. It doesn't look like an arbitrarily human-shaped robot, it looks like an actual warmachine. Similar to the Cougar and similar to this artwork of the Black Lanner. (And I know these chicken legs would be terrible in real life, before you point it out).

Anyway. Looks cool. Yay.

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#2 Juodas Varnas

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Posted 06 July 2016 - 04:24 AM

Eh, it's a Clan mech.

Doesn't really get me excited, but it will be nice to see a little bit less Stormcrows in the matches (at least for a few days after Viper's release)

#3 Hit the Deck

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Posted 06 July 2016 - 04:43 AM

It looks cool and is pretty small.

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Posted 06 July 2016 - 04:45 AM

Visual similarities to the Stormcrow, but prettier (not hard, as the Stormie is ugly as sin)... It's not the mech for me, as basically all it's going to do is zip about and shine red lasers on people, but still, I appreciate some nice MechPr0n.

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Posted 06 July 2016 - 04:47 AM

That's some nice high mounted energy hardpoints, shame that you can't put DHS in fixed engine slots.

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Posted 06 July 2016 - 04:47 AM

It's the king of high jump (along with CDA-3F, but who deliberately equips 8 JJs?)!

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Posted 06 July 2016 - 04:50 AM

View PostHit the Deck, on 06 July 2016 - 04:47 AM, said:

It's the king of high jump (along with CDA-3F, but who deliberately equips 8 JJs?)!

Probably people like me, who put in 7 tons of JJs into their Quickdraws.

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Posted 06 July 2016 - 04:52 AM

View PostAlistair Winter, on 06 July 2016 - 04:21 AM, said:

I know there's a lot of discontent lately. Personally, I haven't really played for about a week. I may stay away until the next patch. But... that Viper does look great tho.

There's something about this sort of chicken legs, torso and arms that just screams realism. It doesn't look like an arbitrarily human-shaped robot, it looks like an actual warmachine. Similar to the Cougar and similar to this artwork of the Black Lanner. (And I know these chicken legs would be terrible in real life, before you point it out).

Anyway. Looks cool. Yay.

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Looks like a Nova that got its head stuck up a Raven's butt, to me.

#9 kesmai

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Posted 06 July 2016 - 05:12 AM

Looks like a KA-50 on legs.
It is either doa or op.
I do not care anymore...

#10 Y E O N N E

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Posted 06 July 2016 - 05:14 AM

Leg it.

#11 627

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Posted 06 July 2016 - 05:14 AM

will be taken for a nova from that angle. Not really sure I like the design yet but I'll wait for a video before calling it ugly.

#12 TercieI

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Posted 06 July 2016 - 05:17 AM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 06 July 2016 - 04:52 AM, said:


Looks like a Nova that got its head stuck up a Raven's butt, to me.


Sounds like actual mech porn.

Also ick.

Also kinda yeah.

#13 Alistair Winter

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Posted 06 July 2016 - 06:13 AM

View Postkapusta11, on 06 July 2016 - 04:47 AM, said:

That's some nice high mounted energy hardpoints, shame that you can't put DHS in fixed engine slots.

Yeah. And it won't have enough free space to run 2xcERPPC like the Nova, I guess. What does it have, 9 tons of free pod space? You could run 2xcERLL, but... meh.

View PostWintersdark, on 06 July 2016 - 04:45 AM, said:

Visual similarities to the Stormcrow, but prettier (not hard, as the Stormie is ugly as sin)... It's not the mech for me, as basically all it's going to do is zip about and shine red lasers on people, but still, I appreciate some nice MechPr0n.

And let's not forget... 4 MGs. I also wonder if it can do 2 cSRM2s or 2 cSRM4s in addition to the red lasers.

I don't think it's going to be particularly good or particularly interesting in terms of possibilities. This thread is mostly about the pr0n, indeed.

#14 MeiSooHaityu

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Posted 06 July 2016 - 06:14 AM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 06 July 2016 - 04:52 AM, said:

Looks like a Nova that got its head stuck up a Raven's butt, to me.


+1

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Posted 06 July 2016 - 06:25 AM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 06 July 2016 - 04:52 AM, said:



Looks like a Nova that got its head stuck up a Raven's butt, to me.


Its true it does look like a cross between a Raven and Nova. Good call. Looks awesome though.

What would a cross between an Urbanmech and a Stormcrow look like? :)

Actually looking at the Viper again, it looks a lot like a cross between a Raven and Stormcrow and a Nova. :) Arguably best looking of the 3.

Edited by Johnny Z, 06 July 2016 - 06:32 AM.


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Posted 06 July 2016 - 07:13 AM

I was excited for this, but Ghost Heat 2.0 says I cant fire 6 cSPLs without penalty, so that is kind of going to kill it for me.

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Posted 06 July 2016 - 07:16 AM

Viper might get mistaken with the Nova and get focused. :P

View PostGas Guzzler, on 06 July 2016 - 07:13 AM, said:

I was excited for this, but Ghost Heat 2.0 says I cant fire 6 cSPLs without penalty, so that is kind of going to kill it for me.


Nothing is set in stone yet.

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Posted 06 July 2016 - 07:30 AM

I like the look. It's wide, but there are a lot of holes in that silhouette so it might give the impression of having glitched hitboxes to a lot of people. Could be good until people figure it out.

M arms on a C can get as much as 7E+4B. 7 CERS + 4 CMG is ~5.5 tons, so room for an extra 3 DHS. Using 7 CERS instead of 6 CSPL gives better range but is less heat efficient, but allows for those 3 extra DHS so it might work out as an overall advantage. The CMG are just three to help with finishing an already opened up armor location.

I'm not getting the reinforcements, though, so I'll be stuck with just 6E+2B+2AMS (Prime torsos on the Medusa). Will have to experiment with it to decide between CERSL and CSPL for that config.

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Posted 06 July 2016 - 07:35 AM

View PostJohnny Z, on 06 July 2016 - 06:25 AM, said:

Actually looking at the Viper again, it looks a lot like a cross between a Raven and Stormcrow and a Nova. Posted Image Arguably best looking of the 3.

Hard to beat the clean look of the Raven, but it's definitely up there.

Alex made a great call about combining these designs to make a new one. Both because the original concept was really weird and hard to fix, and because it creates a unified visual aesthetic, which is something most games lack and MWO has in spades. Sometimes a new mech will look a bit out of place, by virtue of being so unique, but Alex does a good job of creating new designs while mixing in the old ones. And it still has a few similarities to the ugly original concept.

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Posted 06 July 2016 - 07:36 AM

View PostAlistair Winter, on 06 July 2016 - 04:21 AM, said:

There's something about this sort of chicken legs, torso and arms that just screams realism. It doesn't look like an arbitrarily human-shaped robot, it looks like an actual warmachine.


I agree 100%.

I think that is one of the main reasons why I prefer the chicken-walker design over humanoid.





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