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[Deathlike]

Imperius, on 09 July 2016 - 12:28 PM, said:

Umm to all saying Solaris you are aware they won't put in in unless they plan on upgrading the engine right? With all the "excuses" that keep getting dropped my gut feeling says it's not coming to fruition.

Can everyone just drop out of the tournament already so we go back to fixing the game?

I mean if you win sure you'll get money, but no one will think you're the top team, seeing as too many teams had to quit due to over restricted rules and unrealistic time dedications. You have to be unemployed to participate in the tournament. I only work 15 days a month and I still wouldn't be able to commit.

At this point, you can't go back on your word on the tourney... as much as a failure it is for the rest involved. It's ripe for even more burnout than before and moreso on the comp player front (not that you'd care or anything).

It only serves to cause more backlash.. I mean when I open up Steam and I see the CS:GO tourney promo... and imagine what would happen if that was cancelled. For CS:GO, it would be not catastrophic, but a huge loss in money. For PGI, it could just outright kill the game... at least damage it even further.

[Moldur]

Antares102, on 09 July 2016 - 12:47 PM, said:

Moldur, on 09 July 2016 - 12:43 PM, said:

I'll wait and see.

[picture implying that we'll all be dead by then]

touché

[Johnny Z]

Sagamore, on 09 July 2016 - 12:40 PM, said:

I'm just enjoying the game for what it is and will continue to do so.

Perhaps its the people who have unrealistic expectations and are still bitter about broken promises who should be moving on.

To answer the OP, I'm looking forward to decals (a favourite of mine from MW4) and the new assault game mode.

Well an inventory screen and tdm isn't even a real game for me. An inventory screen and TDM is what failed MMO's offer as an after thought to their market sharing scam. Or other games offer that is only supposed to last a month for players. Not something those selling 500$ gold mechs offer. Or those selling very expensive mech packs offer.

It was said during closed beta this would be a AAA game. If anyone thought it was going to be an inventory screen and TDM after 4 years, I am not sure we would be having this conversation.

So all your first statement said was "Shut her down".

Your telling others to leave this game in your second statement. Your role here is clear, troll.

Edited by Johnny Z, 09 July 2016 - 01:05 PM.

[Spleenslitta]

Imperius, on 09 July 2016 - 12:28 PM, said:

Umm to all saying Solaris you are aware they won't put in in unless they plan on upgrading the engine right? With all the "excuses" that keep getting dropped my gut feeling says it's not coming to fruition.

Pardon me Imperius but i don't understand what the engine has to do with Solaris. Is it because a free for all gamemode would demand larger maps?

[TLBFestus]

I will let this image explain it:

[Spleenslitta]

TLBFestus, on 09 July 2016 - 01:21 PM, said:

I will let this image explain it:

Which says exactly nothing.

[Imperius]

Deathlike, on 09 July 2016 - 12:48 PM, said:

At this point, you can't go back on your word on the tourney... as much as a failure it is for the rest involved. It's ripe for even more burnout than before and moreso on the comp player front (not that you'd care or anything).

It only serves to cause more backlash.. I mean when I open up Steam and I see the CS:GO tourney promo... and imagine what would happen if that was cancelled. For CS:GO, it would be not catastrophic, but a huge loss in money. For PGI, it could just outright kill the game... at least damage it even further.

I didn't say cancel it, I said everyone should just drop out already. It seems like it's more like it is just a matter of time before everyone drops out.

Spleenslitta, on 09 July 2016 - 12:54 PM, said:

Pardon me Imperius but i don't understand what the engine has to do with Solaris. Is it because a free for all gamemode would demand larger maps?

I explained it on page 1 to you I think or at least I replied to someone already. That was what was said in the town hall.

Spleenslitta, on 09 July 2016 - 01:22 PM, said:

Which says exactly nothing.

I sadly got the joke...

See Reddit MWO outreach (would you like to buy a MechPack.

[Scout Derek]

Imperius, on 09 July 2016 - 01:27 PM, said:

See Reddit MWO outreach (would you like to buy a MechPack.

Tuesday also posted it here.

[Spleenslitta]

Imperius, on 09 July 2016 - 01:27 PM, said:

I explained it on page 1 to you I think or at least I replied to someone already. That was what was said in the town hall.

My mistake. Saw it now. But i believe Solaris as a gamemode would be far more important than watching replays of our matches.
Besides i think Solaris is such an important part of the Battletech universe that they cannot make do without it even if they cannot implement a replay feature.
There are a lot of customers to be had in getting Solaris not to mention the tournaments.

Our current tournaments are all about teams. There is glory to be had but it is a shared thing between teammates.
It's nothing in comparison to standing alone at the top as the supreme Solaris champion. That's my belief anyways.
It would be a huge step forward on the goal towards making MWO an Esports game.

[Imperius]

Spleenslitta, on 09 July 2016 - 01:40 PM, said:

My mistake. Saw it now. But i believe Solaris as a gamemode would be far more important than watching replays of our matches.
Besides i think Solaris is such an important part of the Battletech universe that they cannot make do without it even if they cannot implement a replay feature.
There are a lot of customers to be had in getting Solaris not to mention the tournaments.

Our current tournaments are all about teams. There is glory to be had but it is a shared thing between teammates.
It's nothing in comparison to standing alone at the top as the supreme Solaris champion. That's my belief anyways.
It would be a huge step forward on the goal towards making MWO an Esports game.

Trust me Solairs will need replay. Otherwise it's just free for all.

Here it's better to just show you how to actually generate e-sports properly.

https://youtu.be/im0mwI7gnsg

Edited by Imperius, 09 July 2016 - 01:47 PM.

[Imperius]

There are just way to many benefits of a replay system. It can teach, show you what went wrong, create community videos, advertise, and save your best moments.

[Deathlike]

Imperius, on 09 July 2016 - 01:27 PM, said:

I didn't say cancel it, I said everyone should just drop out already. It seems like it's more like it is just a matter of time before everyone drops out.

We need a mini-game? Bets anyone?

[Davers]

1. We can all look forward to the new trimester command chair post next month.


2. Anyone who thinks Solaris will be anything lore related is fooling themselves. I can't think of much worse than a FFA mode.

[Sagamore]

Johnny Z, on 09 July 2016 - 12:53 PM, said:

Well an inventory screen and tdm isn't even a real game for me. An inventory screen and TDM is what failed MMO's offer as an after thought to their market sharing scam. Or other games offer that is only supposed to last a month for players. Not something those selling 500$ gold mechs offer. Or those selling very expensive mech packs offer.

It was said during closed beta this would be a AAA game. If anyone thought it was going to be an inventory screen and TDM after 4 years, I am not sure we would be having this conversation.

So all your first statement said was "Shut her down".

Your telling others to leave this game in your second statement. Your role here is clear, troll.

Wow, ok. I understood your "shut her down" comment as telling me to move on from MWO which prompted my comment about bitter vets moving on.

Speaking of roles, I'd really love to see more done with role warfare. The last foray into that was unsuccessful (ghost range or whatever) but perhaps the Cyclops will be a good start to that.

Edited by Sagamore, 09 July 2016 - 02:00 PM.

[Spleenslitta]

Imperius, on 09 July 2016 - 01:50 PM, said:

There are just way to many benefits of a replay system. It can teach, show you what went wrong, create community videos, advertise, and save your best moments.

It brings many benefits yes. But change out the entire engine for it? Too much work for too little gain.
Besides even if it is just a free for all it would still be another gamemode no matter how one twists and turns it. Plenty of players wants more gamemodes. I for one would find a FFA mode far more fun than a team deathmatch. Why?

Because when i face many enemies alone at once gives it gives me an adrenaline rush in team deathmatches.
Where there is one player enjoying such rushes there are plenty of others. I know at least one of my buddies who enjoys those kind of underdog fights too.
There is bound to be more.

[Imperius]

Spleenslitta, on 09 July 2016 - 02:01 PM, said:

It brings many benefits yes. But change out the entire engine for it? Too much work for too little gain.
Besides even if it is just a free for all it would still be another gamemode no matter how one twists and turns it. Plenty of players wants more gamemodes. I for one would find a FFA mode far more fun than a team deathmatch. Why?

Because when i face many enemies alone at once gives it gives me an adrenaline rush in team deathmatches.
Where there is one player enjoying such rushes there are plenty of others. I know at least one of my buddies who enjoys those kind of underdog fights too.
There is bound to be more.

Ok let's make solo queue free for all only. Sounds good to me! They don't like groups they shouldn't need teams.

Ok so solo queue is now free for all Solairs arena!

Now that feature is done what's next on the things to do list?

Sorry for the sarcasm but the engine has needed an upgrade since the beta and the issue has only gotten worse since. It was a super bad idea to drop CryEngine updates to keep dx 9. Now that bad choice is gonna cost them some development time upgrading the product. If they don't think the investment is worth it than it tells me to stop investing because closing up shop is just around the corner. It would show a huge lack of faith in their own product.

[MW222]

TLBFestus, on 09 July 2016 - 01:21 PM, said:

I will let this image explain it:

I may have added a hand blow dryer to.

[wanderer]

What to look forward to?

More of the same. The leadership of PGI has not changed, and the odds of new innovations seriously coming from them (vs. random attempts to imitate other games) is near zero. Worse, it's imitation vs. adaptation.

It really IS "Would you like to buy another Mechpack" until they run out of interesting robots to sell- or someone else buys out the company and replaces the two guys at the top.

[Stone Wall]

Sagamore, on 09 July 2016 - 12:21 PM, said:

A lot of people complain about the lack of depth and that this game is (still) just a deathmatch game. You know what? As a family man with a career, this game suits me perfectly. Occasionally I have a few hours in the evening to hunker down and play but a lot of my gaming is done in 30-60 minute game sessions. I would welcome more features/game modes/progression but as a Founder/Phoenix Overlord/Resistance Blood Pact I feel like I've got my money's worth.

Exactly. Game Modes and Features. How about adding game lobbies where we can turn on Respawn, Turn Off 3rd Person, etc.

[Imperius]

Stone Wall, on 09 July 2016 - 03:22 PM, said:

Exactly. Game Modes and Features. How about adding game lobbies where we can turn on Respawn, Turn Off 3rd Person, etc.

Now that we have an arrow why is 3rd person on at all? Should only be on in PVE and lab fights IMO.