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Is It Worth Opening A Supply Cache? Let's Calculate.


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#121 Dee Eight

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Posted 17 August 2016 - 12:01 PM

View PostBoulangerie, on 17 August 2016 - 01:20 AM, said:

I'd prefer if they showed the actual % chances for each slot in the cache, but the color coding thing will at least help people to realize which items have lower chances.


They will, that's been announced for the next patch already. Its in the Aug-Sep-Oct road map post.

#122 SQW

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Posted 17 August 2016 - 05:57 PM

View PostDee Eight, on 17 August 2016 - 12:01 PM, said:


They will, that's been announced for the next patch already. Its in the Aug-Sep-Oct road map post.


I bet you it'll either be 'forgotten' or changed to a vague color code rather than an actual percentage.

There are people literally spending 25MCs (more if they actually bought the cache) to get SRM2s all because of that mech being dangled in front of them. I sincerely hope none of you ever step in a Casino or you'll be going home with newspaper covering your privates.

#123 Nightbird

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Posted 17 August 2016 - 06:00 PM

They are worth opening if you got the keys for free, otherwise no, unless they finally share the % for each crate.

Edited by ironnightbird, 17 August 2016 - 06:00 PM.


#124 joker1974

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Posted 21 August 2016 - 12:26 AM

Yeah, I got 5 free keys:
1. cache with a 1000 MC in it... it "just" flipped over the 1000 MC...like someone gave it an extra push... ffs.
2. cache with a 7 day prem in it... got 250K Cbills... ffs
3. cache with 3 new keys in it... got 250K Cbills... ffs
4. cache with an Urbie in it... got an LRM20... ffs
5. saving it for a rainy day. Deleted the 7 or so caches.

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Posted 21 August 2016 - 02:09 AM

View Postjoker1974, on 21 August 2016 - 12:26 AM, said:

Yeah, I got 5 free keys:
1. cache with a 1000 MC in it... it "just" flipped over the 1000 MC...like someone gave it an extra push... ffs.
2. cache with a 7 day prem in it... got 250K Cbills... ffs
3. cache with 3 new keys in it... got 250K Cbills... ffs
4. cache with an Urbie in it... got an LRM20... ffs
5. saving it for a rainy day. Deleted the 7 or so caches.


YOU DON'T GET 1/8 CHANCE ON THE ITEMS!!!

If you look at the patch note, PGI is finally putting rarity color coding. Anything more than SRM or LRM will be highly unlikely.Getting premiums or free mech from cache is like getting Legendary from packs in Hearthstone - worse, at least in HS, you are guaranteed a 'rare'. If you are not happy with the WORST item in the cache, sell the cache.

#126 Ragnar Darkmane

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Posted 21 August 2016 - 02:20 AM

I'll open any caches with any free mission/event reward keys IF they have a very high number of valuable rewards (e.g. I have one right now with only one common item). Everything else is an auto-sell, especially if they have more than two common/uncommen items that are crap. Whatever RNG the caches are using is ridiculously one-sided to favor common crap, I advice against ever opening keys with MC. Keep 'em if they are super promising until you get free cache keys, sell the rest.

#127 Dee Eight

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Posted 21 August 2016 - 06:54 AM

Caches are scratch tickets which guarantee every ticket a winner... yes...but a winner of WHAT exactly. My rule is to look at the contents, identify the cheapest item, and then ROOT for getting that item when I open it... "c'mon SRM6 pack..." and if I get that, I got nothing less than I expected to get, and if I get something else, its a surprise bonus.

Expecting every cache will give you the mech or module or xl engine... I'm sorry...you're just dumb as dirt and shouldn't reproduce. The world has enough morons as it is and the genepool doesn't need any more polluting.

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Posted 22 August 2016 - 10:46 PM

Another 4 caches:
250k
250k
hbr prime left torso
Target info gathering module

Just as a note, if you recognize earlier... I already opened another 6 caches prior to these 4. This is the first worthwhile thing I got. It seems that anything c-bills may be possible to get, but anything only purchasable through mc is almost impossible.

#129 J4ck4l

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Posted 23 August 2016 - 03:14 AM

Dang I wish you could trade eachother ingame... As I would love to buy crate-haters' crates for 50k CBills each. Since well... I just f*cking love gambling. Posted Image

#130 Mechteric

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Posted 23 August 2016 - 05:54 AM

Two of my free key openings have given me Omnipods for mechs I don't even nor have ever owned. The only positive outcome of opening the cache was that selling the pod was a tad more CBills than if I had just sold it without opening it. Such a letdown.


For the love of all that is holy, remove omnipods from the winnings, I'd rather get an actual weapon I can use rather than something I can't use at all.

Edited by CapperDeluxe, 23 August 2016 - 05:55 AM.


#131 Ragnar Darkmane

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Posted 23 August 2016 - 10:22 AM

I actually won a Seismic Sensor worth 6 Mil C-Bills yesterday (even if that is ridiculously overpriced to begin with):http://images.akamai...459048D8EA741E/

To be fair, the other 4 boxes I opened I got the usual common crap (including two omnipod arms for Crows). So I'd never waste money or MC (which is the same to me) on keys, only use free ones from events. Ah yes, and always expect to get the worst item in the pack, then you won't be disappointed.

Edited by Ragnar Darkmane, 23 August 2016 - 10:31 AM.


#132 Tordin

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Posted 23 August 2016 - 10:29 AM

View Postadentw, on 22 August 2016 - 10:46 PM, said:

Another 4 caches:
250k
250k
hbr prime left torso
Target info gathering module

Just as a note, if you recognize earlier... I already opened another 6 caches prior to these 4. This is the first worthwhile thing I got. It seems that anything c-bills may be possible to get, but anything only purchasable through mc is almost impossible.


Not to bad actually. 250k is like a free match with above average c-bill reward (very nice if you dont have premium time)

I got Large pulse laser, Handicap cockpit sign and clan streak srm 6 Posted Image

And yeah, expect the worst you can get, then the "disappointment" of getting the worst wont be as bad.

#133 Kyle Travis

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Posted 23 August 2016 - 02:41 PM

Opened 3 with free keys - SRM, UAC-5 and a Mech bay :)

#134 Vellron2005

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Posted 24 August 2016 - 04:19 AM

I've so far opened about 20 caches or so, didn't get a single usefull item.. total and utter waste of MC if you ask me.. Only use free keys from events if you wanna open supply caches.

Its also kinda ridiculous that now we can see just what are chances are. Like that wasn't painfully obvious before.. I think you only get anything good when you've spent about as much MC on keys as you would normally spend on the item to buy it.

#135 LowSubmarino

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Posted 24 August 2016 - 04:35 AM

Opening them with the free keys I get?

Sure.

Dont need the cbills for selling the caches.

Buying keys for caches with loot that will in many cases (for the valuable stuff) have greatly reduced hit chances....nah.

Id never do that.

Spending MC for an scrm 2 ?

U serious? lol

#136 Deathlike

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Posted 24 August 2016 - 06:14 AM

View PostCapperDeluxe, on 23 August 2016 - 05:54 AM, said:

Two of my free key openings have given me Omnipods for mechs I don't even nor have ever owned. The only positive outcome of opening the cache was that selling the pod was a tad more CBills than if I had just sold it without opening it. Such a letdown.


For the love of all that is holy, remove omnipods from the winnings, I'd rather get an actual weapon I can use rather than something I can't use at all.


Yes, omnipods for a winning prize is a total sham.

You buy omnipods as you need them and "getting them" through this system is effectively "guaranteed stuff to sell"... kinda like the abundance of medium lasers. There's no reason to hoard them.

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Posted 24 August 2016 - 06:18 AM

I opened a supply cash today and got Radar Deprivation from it (Wow! @____@), BUT, I don't have it in my inventory! =D
Have opened a ticket about that, guess last patch also broke supply cash system, lol.

#138 Khobai

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Posted 24 August 2016 - 06:33 AM

its probably worth it, because even if you only win a free mech every 100 supply caches its still cheaper than buying the mech outright

thats of course assuming you have at least a 1% chance to win an ultra rare prize like a mech...

Edited by Khobai, 24 August 2016 - 06:34 AM.


#139 Boulangerie

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Posted 24 August 2016 - 07:17 AM

View PostBlackW1nd, on 24 August 2016 - 06:18 AM, said:

I opened a supply cash today and got Radar Deprivation from it (Wow! @____@), BUT, I don't have it in my inventory! =D
Have opened a ticket about that, guess last patch also broke supply cash system, lol.


Do you have the module unlocked in the pilot skill tree yet? It should be one of the first you unlock.

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Posted 24 August 2016 - 07:30 AM

View PostBoulangerie, on 24 August 2016 - 07:17 AM, said:


Do you have the module unlocked in the pilot skill tree yet? It should be one of the first you unlock.

Nope, when I opened the supply it wasn't unlocked. So I farmed around 100 GXP to have 15000, unlocked the module and tried to install it, but it was nowhere to be seen. Posted Image





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