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#141 Imperius

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Posted 21 August 2016 - 01:12 AM

View PostPeter2k, on 20 August 2016 - 11:49 PM, said:


The new titan x is an awesome card, though I hope you're gonna put some water on it
The stock cooler certainly has its limits

Second generation HBM has just not been available enough quite yet
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Titan X is at 450mbs I think with 12gb and uses the same chip just has two blocks off on the chip. Plenty fast for games :) yes I do plan on getting it liquid cooled from EKWB.

#142 Zordicron

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Posted 21 August 2016 - 04:20 AM

View PostJC Daxion, on 20 August 2016 - 10:35 AM, said:




Why didn't you grab your free upgrade of win 10 before the end of july? I must say i did and it runs great. I have had zero issues, but i have not installed any older games as of yet.. But i still have my Vista machine, and a win 2k machine for them.. as a bunch of games i had would not run on vista or win 7.. Darn 32 bit games.. Blade runner i am talking to you! (i also could not get mech 3 or 4 to fun ever since a vid card upgrade on my vista machine)

If you didn't like 10, you could of just rolled back to 7.. BTW, win 7 is no longer going to be supported as of 2020, which is why i did so, figured i'd save myself 100 bucks.. and if i hated 10, i can just roll back, or format.







Well that's all well and good, But you are talking about basically making another company from the ground up. An ISO RPG, and an FPS have very little in common. Different engines, different programming, AI, sure art is art, but they even licences that, though i'm guessing they have some artists of their own. They also take far more money to create. Just look at the costs of a simple FPS adventure game,, even basic ones cost more than huge ISO RPG projects. They are just much different beasts. And technically far more advanced..

you are talking about a game play grid, verse a fully dynamic world, Hit-boxes, verse virtual cover, The lists go on and on..


could he do it? I'd guess sure.. but it would mean starting up or basically making a giant expansion on the studio.. Not just say, Hey guys, now we are done with this, lets make that...




Correct. I am talking about that. It is my hope it might happen, because I have zero faith in Russ.

#143 Mavairo

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Posted 21 August 2016 - 06:28 AM

View PostNavid A1, on 17 August 2016 - 02:33 AM, said:


DX12 is pretty awesome.. sadly, it comes with Win10. And that means that I won't be using DX12 for a long long time... unfortunately.


Dude, win 10 is totally an upgrade to 7. (Let alone the abortion known as Win 8). No reason not to upgrade. "But mah privacy!" you say? Do you really think your home computer is going to be able to stand up to the fed anyway if they really wanted your information? By the way the NSA has built in hacks into your HDD's base firm ware anyway. It's already in your HDD's firmware. You can put whatever OS you want on it, it doesn't matter.

Frankly, I've had no increase in ads, or any other thing the Win10ophobes have claimed would happen since the upgrade over a year ago. If anything I've noticed fps gains, much quicker boot times, ironically enough LESS driver issues etc, it also has a smaller memory footprint than Win 7. Also, having my xbox live account linked right into the OS is kind of nice too.

Back to Topic though...
PGI should switch to Unreal 4. But that would require them to be Real Devs, that have a lick of common sense and not people just after MVP (minimally viable product) instead of real games.

Edited by Mavairo, 21 August 2016 - 06:31 AM.


#144 Navid A1

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Posted 21 August 2016 - 07:02 AM

View PostMavairo, on 21 August 2016 - 06:28 AM, said:


Dude, win 10 is totally an upgrade to 7. (Let alone the abortion known as Win 8). No reason not to upgrade. "But mah privacy!" you say? Do you really think your home computer is going to be able to stand up to the fed anyway if they really wanted your information? By the way the NSA has built in hacks into your HDD's base firm ware anyway. It's already in your HDD's firmware. You can put whatever OS you want on it, it doesn't matter.

Frankly, I've had no increase in ads, or any other thing the Win10ophobes have claimed would happen since the upgrade over a year ago. If anything I've noticed fps gains, much quicker boot times, ironically enough LESS driver issues etc, it also has a smaller memory footprint than Win 7. Also, having my xbox live account linked right into the OS is kind of nice too.

Back to Topic though...
PGI should switch to Unreal 4. But that would require them to be Real Devs, that have a lick of common sense and not people just after MVP (minimally viable product) instead of real games.


When a flagship product is offered for absolutely free for a year (even for pirated windows versions)... and from microsoft of all the companies out there....

You just know something is up. Its almost like that creep handing out free candy outside of school.

Edited by Navid A1, 21 August 2016 - 07:03 AM.


#145 Mavairo

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Posted 21 August 2016 - 07:17 AM

View PostNavid A1, on 21 August 2016 - 07:02 AM, said:


When a flagship product is offered for absolutely free for a year (even for pirated windows versions)... and from microsoft of all the companies out there....

You just know something is up. Its almost like that creep handing out free candy outside of school.


The reason why, is beta testing. Win 7 was out for free as a beta for a looong time before release. You had to buy it later true.
I think enough people ragged on Win 8 (myself included) that Microsoft realized they had to change the marketing strategy a little.

The last year or so that I've been upgraded, had surprisingly minor teething problems. Now I don't see myself going back to 7. You can't even say "Well you might need it for older software" due to how well Compatibility Mode works..there's even a compat mode for xp.

Free for early adopters, vs a five to ten year product life cycle, especially with the improvement in OS vs the last OS that was released, is a drop in the bucket in profits. If anything it probably is going to boost OS sales in the long run.

Win 8 left a lot of hard feelings out there, I'd almost say it had to be a troll it was so freaking awful. I would have thought they'd have learned those mistakes by now not to release a crap OS, with crap like Vista, Win2000, ME. But I guess they had to relearn it with Win8.

#146 Imperius

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Posted 21 August 2016 - 11:16 AM

>Windows 10 is great (Do you or have you used MySpace or Facebook? Yes, good government knows you already. You are not important enough 99% of the time for them to care)

>Unreal Engine 4 is beyond user friendly most people (average computer knowledge) can make a map in a day using the assets already in unreal.

>CryEngine which was sold off to Amazon and now is free and called lumberjack. CryEngine 5 is out but is not user friendly so I'd rather they switch to Unreal Engine 4.



#147 Astrocanis

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Posted 21 August 2016 - 12:36 PM

View PostImperius, on 17 August 2016 - 01:19 AM, said:

Adds tons of the features the community has been asking for!

Replay function for Solairis
Vulcan and DX 12 support
VR
Performance and Optimizations
Pre-built AI
Spectator mode for tournaments and Solairs



https://www.unrealen...unreal-engine-4


Sure. All they have to do is rewrite the game.

#148 Johnny Z

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Posted 21 August 2016 - 12:41 PM

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Edited by Johnny Z, 21 August 2016 - 12:50 PM.


#149 Imperius

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Posted 21 August 2016 - 12:57 PM

View PostAstrocanis, on 21 August 2016 - 12:36 PM, said:


Sure. All they have to do is rewrite the game.


Yup implying they created the CryEngine from scratch they used in beta.

You are aware that PGI is basically an art team correct? Importing mechs and reskinning them will be the rewrite. Do you know what an engine is?

Let me share you a video of how unreal works.


#150 Navid A1

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Posted 21 August 2016 - 01:17 PM

View PostImperius, on 21 August 2016 - 11:16 AM, said:

>Windows 10 is great (Do you or have you used MySpace or Facebook? Yes, good government knows you already. You are not important enough 99% of the time for them to care)


Sorry, but its not the Governments I'm worried about. (oh, and nope, no FB or MS for me, ever)

Win10 has an official back door to your computer... Government can use it all they want... but they won't be the only ones. That door is basically an open invitation to cyber-criminals.
At least the government do not sell my data to any run of the mill advertisers they encounter... something Microsoft is telling you it is doing with win10... to improve your user experience, because they love you so much.

#151 TKSax

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Posted 21 August 2016 - 01:19 PM

View PostNavid A1, on 21 August 2016 - 01:17 PM, said:


Sorry, but its not the Governments I'm worried about. (oh, and nope, no FB or MS for me, ever)

Win10 has an official back door to your computer... Government can use it all they want... but they won't be the only ones. That door is basically an open invitation to cyber-criminals.
At least the government do not sell my data to any run of the mill advertisers they encounter... something Microsoft is telling you it is doing with win10... to improve your user experience, because they love you so much.


AS someone who lives and breathes in the cloud... guess what your data is being collected period..oh and there is backdoor into windows 7 always has been... You can turn all the data mining stuff off in windows 10, there are some huge security holes in Windows 7 I would not recommend anyone continue to use it.

#152 Imperius

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Posted 21 August 2016 - 01:36 PM

View PostNavid A1, on 21 August 2016 - 01:17 PM, said:


Sorry, but its not the Governments I'm worried about. (oh, and nope, no FB or MS for me, ever)

Win10 has an official back door to your computer... Government can use it all they want... but they won't be the only ones. That door is basically an open invitation to cyber-criminals.
At least the government do not sell my data to any run of the mill advertisers they encounter... something Microsoft is telling you it is doing with win10... to improve your user experience, because they love you so much.


Oh no my porn collection isn't safe!!!!!!! The horror!!!!! Oh no they know what anime I watch!!!!!! Like really what does it matter? Like the government wouldn't be easily able to print out a warrant pre signed and go raid your **** if they felt like they needed to.

I'm not saying I'm down for easy government access to my ****. At the same time I'm not hiding or doing anything they would give a **** about. Ok I did google how to make napalm.

Edit: it was mainly offered as free to get a high adoption rate so they could easily drop support of legacy systems and consolidate their focus. I have a few apple computers and I have been getting free OS's for a while now on them. Windows learned from Apple in this case when it comes to OS adoption.

Tin foil hat theory aside the government already knows everything about you. You pay taxes right? You don't own nuclear materials right? Then you're insignificant to them :)

Edited by Imperius, 21 August 2016 - 01:40 PM.


#153 Navid A1

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Posted 21 August 2016 - 02:07 PM

View PostImperius, on 21 August 2016 - 01:36 PM, said:

Oh no my porn collection isn't safe!!!!!!! The horror!!!!! Oh no they know what anime I watch!!!!!! Like really what does it matter? Like the government wouldn't be easily able to print out a warrant pre signed and go raid your **** if they felt like they needed to.

I'm not saying I'm down for easy government access to my ****. At the same time I'm not hiding or doing anything they would give a **** about. Ok I did google how to make napalm.

Edit: it was mainly offered as free to get a high adoption rate so they could easily drop support of legacy systems and consolidate their focus. I have a few apple computers and I have been getting free OS's for a while now on them. Windows learned from Apple in this case when it comes to OS adoption.

Tin foil hat theory aside the government already knows everything about you. You pay taxes right? You don't own nuclear materials right? Then you're insignificant to them Posted Image


???
What?

I'm saying that an official data mining "back door" to your system is a potential threat vulnerability to cyber-criminals.
Your credit-card info, your identity, your passwords.

Who cares about the rest.
I will voluntarily send a copy of my hard-disk and passwords to any government agency you want...including all the kinky anime movies Posted Image

Edited by Navid A1, 21 August 2016 - 02:07 PM.


#154 Mavairo

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Posted 21 August 2016 - 02:10 PM

View PostNavid A1, on 21 August 2016 - 01:17 PM, said:


Sorry, but its not the Governments I'm worried about. (oh, and nope, no FB or MS for me, ever)

Win10 has an official back door to your computer... Government can use it all they want... but they won't be the only ones. That door is basically an open invitation to cyber-criminals.
At least the government do not sell my data to any run of the mill advertisers they encounter... something Microsoft is telling you it is doing with win10... to improve your user experience, because they love you so much.


Wait, you think any mainstream marketed OS ISN'T a revolving door for cyber criminals already? Give anyone in that field of expertise five minutes and if your OS is sold in a store or ever was... they're in. Tops.

#155 Imperius

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Posted 21 August 2016 - 02:16 PM

View PostNavid A1, on 21 August 2016 - 02:07 PM, said:


???
What?

I'm saying that an official data mining "back door" to your system is a potential threat vulnerability to cyber-criminals.
Your credit-card info, your identity, your passwords.

Who cares about the rest.
I will voluntarily send a copy of my hard-disk and passwords to any government agency you want...including all the kinky anime movies Posted Image


My credit cards are online with PayPal. I don't save that in my computer. I monitor my own accounts and have notifications for all of them (except my bank.... ********) anyway if the card gets used generally I get a notification.

I'm not too concerned. I mainly use my PC for gaming and media creation hobby.

Edited by Imperius, 21 August 2016 - 02:22 PM.


#156 Imperius

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Posted 31 August 2016 - 10:43 AM

Arise from the ashes my thread about the future direction I hope PGI takes!

Seriously though an engine upgrade followed by a PVE commitment would get the ball rolling for me to start up my "mech pack" support payments.

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Posted 02 September 2016 - 02:24 AM

View PostMetus regem, on 18 August 2016 - 07:57 AM, said:



I'm talking about MWO, first they wanted to make it a grand thing, but settled on team Solaris VII death match, then they wanted to make a grand Faction Warfare game, but made it pointless. Then the wanted to focus on E-Sports! But MWO will have a hard, hard climb to be accepted as an e-sport. It's the constant changes of direction that hurt MWO, it doesn't get the chance to grow into something before being forced to change direction.

a New Engine is the Next dead Marketing Horse , for Russ to jump a little forward

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>Unreal Engine 4 is beyond user friendly most people (average computer knowledge) can make a map in a day using the assets already in unreal.
a Good Map in a Day :D stupid Nonsense ...im working with Both SDK Tools.

Edited by Old MW4 Ranger, 02 September 2016 - 02:28 AM.


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Posted 05 December 2016 - 04:31 AM

With the Trailer of MW5 i bring this up again.

Look how nice MWO could be...sigh

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Posted 05 December 2016 - 04:43 AM

View Postslimenator, on 05 December 2016 - 04:31 AM, said:

With the Trailer of MW5 i bring this up again.

Look how nice MWO could be...sigh


I specifically asked this question from Paul... That now that you're using UE4, is it possible to move MWO to UE4 as well?
He said that its gonna be a nightmare and content/feature release must stop for more than a year for that to be doable!
He feared Russ might wanna open that can of worms as well!
Besides... he said that with all the limitations, PGI version of CE is still better for MP aspect, despite many shortcomings

Edited by Navid A1, 05 December 2016 - 04:43 AM.


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Posted 05 December 2016 - 05:57 AM

I don't get it. What does MWO have you can not "recreate" in MW5 ?

Mechbay is just a storage room.
Weapons are the same.
Most of the Mechs are the same.
Inner Sphere mechs are already Ingame.


So the only thing MW5 will miss at release are the Clan Mechs.

Even There IIC Mechs are "Repaints" and Resized.
So right now its like 20 Clan Mechs you have to "Design" + 5 IIC Mechs.
Each month is a new Mech, so till middle of 2018 , we have 18 new Mechs.

Edited by StarSauron, 05 December 2016 - 05:59 AM.






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