Roughneck Pre Order Is Here
#61
Posted 03 December 2016 - 03:38 PM
Maybe is not lore but for me Alex did a really great job with this, looks beautiful, half way between a battlemech and a building mech if you look the arms, decals and special camo, I really like the style used here.
Then look at the hardpoints location, arms seem to be high, and torso weapons are at the same level of the cockpit.. High weapons AND high cockpit, so completely different from a Jaeger or a Thunderbolt and with more ballistics + missiles to experiment with.
If hitboxes will be good the 3A variant could be a new meta to substitute/accompany other 3 lpl + 3 ml builds.
Really interested to see the evolution of this mech.
#62
Posted 03 December 2016 - 03:41 PM
Edited by Dreadgorth, 03 December 2016 - 03:42 PM.
#63
Posted 03 December 2016 - 03:45 PM
#64
Posted 03 December 2016 - 03:45 PM
#65
Posted 03 December 2016 - 03:54 PM
Canon industrial 'mech? ...
Still looks interesting to me, I would just personally prefer you stick to adding the currently available canon mechs we do not have (a whole lot).
Good job on the lore and everything though; I did enjoy the read and the artwork is nice.
Edited by xSONOHx, 04 December 2016 - 04:27 PM.
#66
Posted 03 December 2016 - 03:55 PM
Wolf Ender, on 03 December 2016 - 03:45 PM, said:
I'd pay for a harvester mech, or a rancher! Dark ages = Rocket launchers!
Edited by stealthraccoon, 03 December 2016 - 03:56 PM.
#67
Posted 03 December 2016 - 04:04 PM
Pepito Sbazzeguti, on 03 December 2016 - 03:38 PM, said:
Maybe is not lore but for me Alex did a really great job with this, looks beautiful, half way between a battlemech and a building mech if you look the arms, decals and special camo, I really like the style used here.
Then look at the hardpoints location, arms seem to be high, and torso weapons are at the same level of the cockpit.. High weapons AND high cockpit, so completely different from a Jaeger or a Thunderbolt and with more ballistics + missiles to experiment with.
If hitboxes will be good the 3A variant could be a new meta to substitute/accompany other 3 lpl + 3 ml builds.
Really interested to see the evolution of this mech.
The salt is because we were told we would get something new. I was thinking Axmen and melee combat, or new weapons and tech, or IS Omnis.
But no.
We got this.
Same **** new skin.
#68
Posted 03 December 2016 - 04:07 PM
With that said I will unfortunately be staying well enough away from this and only getting it when it comes out for Cbills, if even then. I personally feel a great distaste of what is aesthetically an agromech. Solaris mech or not, there is a vast difference between a franken mech and what closely resembles an agromech. Some may enjoy this, I am simply not one of those individuals. Which things are further compounded for me by the fact it is another 65 tonner with what seems to be set up to run builds I would rather run on the Jager or Rifleman. Giving me even less incentive to buy the Roughneck other than for Cbills. And no JJ *sadface
#69
Posted 03 December 2016 - 04:23 PM
Starshield, on 03 December 2016 - 04:07 PM, said:
Rough PoS should not have been done. So many mechs that could have been done. PGI will try to spin this as a sexy mech. This mech offers nothing, same as the weedwacker. Its just another add a target for people playing clan mechs.
RIP IS. More peeps playing clan mechs now that IS anywho. Guess this was PGI's intention.
#70
Posted 03 December 2016 - 04:24 PM
Argus, Osiris, Deimos etc .were the same bunch.
But, no thanks. There would have been enough good mechs available, even in the 65t class.
And complete intro-tech in the standard package?
Underwhelming early adopter rewards.
My wallet shall be closed...
Hopefully there are some better news after the "hyped" announcements.
#71
Posted 03 December 2016 - 04:29 PM
#72
Posted 03 December 2016 - 04:29 PM
With excellent concept art, featuring high weapon mounts, this is clearly the first BattleMech designed specifically for MWO. I would love to see more Solaris VII Mechs and variants that use these design principles.
The Bad:
As a LoaderMech inspired design, the lack of a melee or grappling weapon is really disappointing. The lack of melee combat in the game detracts from the otherwise gladiatorial feel of MWO.
The Ugly:
Since reflexes and intellect are the decisive factor in BattleMech combat, rather than size and physical strength, sexism is rare among MechWarriors. The author seems to be writing commentary on 21st Century sexism in a 31st Century context. While self-taught Mech pilot from the lower classes might certainly experience discrimination in the feudalistic Inner Sphere, its unlikely to be connected to the pilot's gender. I'm happy the pilot is a woman, but not certain whether female players will be inspired by this piece of lore.
#73
Posted 03 December 2016 - 04:31 PM
#74
Posted 03 December 2016 - 04:33 PM
EDIT: Also, I thought of a way that this thing could actually be the prototype for melee - give it a damage bonus quirk for collision damage to put it roughly equivalent to say, a small laser at optimum range so that it's not game breaking. Sure we won't get any fancy clamp-and-tear animation but it's a step in what my admittedly strange directional senses say is the right direction. And who knows, it might be what people need to finally learn not to stand up each others arses all the time
Edited by Audacious Aubergine, 03 December 2016 - 04:48 PM.
#75
Posted 03 December 2016 - 04:46 PM
GI Journalist, on 03 December 2016 - 04:29 PM, said:
With excellent concept art, featuring high weapon mounts, this is clearly the first BattleMech designed specifically for MWO. I would love to see more Solaris VII Mechs and variants that use these design principles.
The Bad:
As a LoaderMech inspired design, the lack of a melee or grappling weapon is really disappointing. The lack of melee combat in the game detracts from the otherwise gladiatorial feel of MWO.
The Ugly:
Since reflexes and intellect are the decisive factor in BattleMech combat, rather than size and physical strength, sexism is rare among MechWarriors. The author seems to be writing commentary on 21st Century sexism in a 31st Century context. While self-taught Mech pilot from the lower classes might certainly experience discrimination in the feudalistic Inner Sphere, its unlikely to be connected to the pilot's gender. I'm happy the pilot is a woman, but not certain whether female players will be inspired by this piece of lore.
Female mechwarriors maybe a minority but they are not rare. (Even 46% is minority and that is about half.)
#76
Posted 03 December 2016 - 04:47 PM
i buy it, for the suport
#77
Posted 03 December 2016 - 04:50 PM
but to be clear, i wont be ok with it if its a continuous stream of made up mechs from pgi. they cant use that as a way out of updating IS technology, and clan tech as well. that their at this point should be a wake up call to them that they need to advance the technology and timeline if they are going to be doing this mechpach a month thing, because there is not an infinite amount of mech in universe.
i do wanna end on a good note though, im glad that new colors are part of the preorder rewards, thats awesome.
Uncle Totty, on 03 December 2016 - 04:46 PM, said:
well in the real military, females are like.... 30% of the population, and that mindframe is there to a degree..... so id see that trend possibly continuing into a futuristic feudalistic socioty, so it isnt a stretch to say that the people in that timeline see females as outsiders in the mechwarrior community.
#78
Posted 03 December 2016 - 05:01 PM
naterist, on 03 December 2016 - 04:50 PM, said:
but to be clear, i wont be ok with it if its a continuous stream of made up mechs from pgi. they cant use that as a way out of updating IS technology, and clan tech as well. that their at this point should be a wake up call to them that they need to advance the technology and timeline if they are going to be doing this mechpach a month thing, because there is not an infinite amount of mech in universe.
i do wanna end on a good note though, im glad that new colors are part of the preorder rewards, thats awesome.
well in the real military, females are like.... 30% of the population, and that mindframe is there to a degree..... so id see that trend possibly continuing into a futuristic feudalistic socioty, so it isnt a stretch to say that the people in that timeline see females as outsiders in the mechwarrior community.
Even 30% is not that small. Did you know some of histories top snipers are woman?
http://www.businessi...o-female-sniper
http://controversial...solutely-crazy/
Edited by Uncle Totty, 03 December 2016 - 05:02 PM.
#79
Posted 03 December 2016 - 05:07 PM
Nothing really to say about this one. Nostalgia makes me buy mechs. There's no nostalgia here. Nothing really bad about it; just not for me.
#80
Posted 03 December 2016 - 05:31 PM
If it does not exist then this a good job but does not practice in the game will be another story because the Malee attack does not exist that makes the mech less used but most of the mech that has in the game has drawings of malee attack .... right
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