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[The6thMessenger]

Bombast, on 06 January 2017 - 08:54 PM, said:

Welp, that's advocating for Pay2Win. Guess we're all done here.

It's ok guys, we can all leave. He want's to pay to be better then everyone else, we can ignore this now.

Kaiju would be pay to win/optimize though. I mean it's default build reeks of meta-****-sucking, throw in an ecm too. At least pulsar has low energy mount.

Edited by The6thMessenger, 06 January 2017 - 08:56 PM.

[Bombast]

The6thMessenger, on 06 January 2017 - 08:56 PM, said:

Kaiju would be pay to win/optimize though. I mean it's default build reeks of meta-****-sucking, throw in an ecm too. At least pulsar has low energy mount.

Well, depends on how it's run. If they drop those torso PPC's down below the cockpit, I don't think it'll be that OP.

Though, yes, I agree - Pay for ECM is ********, and if it were up to me, I wouldn't go with Bishop's idea just because of that. I just posted it because someone asked about it.

Edited by Bombast, 06 January 2017 - 09:01 PM.

[RestosIII]

Hidirian, on 06 January 2017 - 08:50 PM, said:

Yeah but almost all the hero mechs are already better than their other variants. If they weren't people most likely wouldn't buy them(or the clan ones for their parts). PGI needs to make $ somehow.

Straight up asking for P2W variants? Seriously?

[The6thMessenger]

Bombast, on 06 January 2017 - 09:00 PM, said:

Well, depends on how it's run. If they drop those torso PPC's down below the cockpit, I don't think it'll be that OP.

Though, yes, I agree - Pay for ECM is ********, and if it were up to me, I wouldn't go with Bishop's idea just because of that. I just posted it because someone asked about it.

Mine has ECM too

[Hit the Deck]

Hidirian, on 06 January 2017 - 08:40 PM, said:

...As far as variants and a hero version of it, would it be so bad to have a IS assault that could do close to what a KDK can with 2/2/2/2 or 1/1/1/1 ballistic hps?

That is saved for the Cerberus: https://mwomercs.com...areness-thread/



Its feet even look like the Kodiak's.

[Hit the Deck]

The6thMessenger, on 06 January 2017 - 08:56 PM, said:

Kaiju would be pay to win/optimize though. I mean it's default build reeks of meta-****-sucking, throw in an ecm too

Though the other KGCs can do 2Gauss+2PPC, which has more firepower than it.

Bishop probably intended it to be so and threw ECM for good measure.

[Bombast]

The6thMessenger, on 06 January 2017 - 09:03 PM, said:

Mine has ECM too

Well, then to hell with yours too!

Hit the Deck, on 06 January 2017 - 09:03 PM, said:

That is saved for the Cerberus: https://mwomercs.com...areness-thread/

Spoiler

Its feet even look like the Kodiak's.

Well, ol' Giraffe Neck could do that too.

Though I suppose the hit boxes aren't ideal.

[The6thMessenger]

Hit the Deck, on 06 January 2017 - 09:06 PM, said:

Though the other KGCs can do 2Gauss+2PPC, which has more firepower than it.

Bishop probably intended it to be so and threw ECM for good measure.

It's less powerful, but that ECM provides unprecedented defense against the bane of KGC, lurmz. Pair that with high-mounts, and it's a world of high-survivability king-crab.

Bombast, on 06 January 2017 - 09:07 PM, said:

Well, then to hell with yours too!

Would you be okay with 4x AMS instead? Is it okay to necro the pulsar?

[Hidirian]

RestosIII, on 06 January 2017 - 09:01 PM, said:

Straight up asking for P2W variants? Seriously?

I'm not, I'm calling it like it already is. All I was asking for were to have some ballistic hps moved around, but apparently that's a SIN. I wasn't even asking for ECM or anything like that. There's plenty of clan hero mechs with hps only avail on them that give a distinct advantage when used with other parts, you can't deny that.

Edited by Hidirian, 06 January 2017 - 09:14 PM.

[Hit the Deck]

Bombast, on 06 January 2017 - 09:07 PM, said:

...
Well, ol' Giraffe Neck could do that too.

Though I suppose the hit boxes aren't ideal.

The max engine limit is too small which makes a very slow 'Mech.

Edited by Hit the Deck, 06 January 2017 - 09:13 PM.

[Bombast]

The6thMessenger, on 06 January 2017 - 09:10 PM, said:

Would you be okay with 4x AMS instead? Is it okay to necro the pulsar?

If we must.

[Wraith 1]

8-ballistic would be fine.

It might be better than the other KGC variants, but it'd be worse than the Ultraviolet, so it isn't P2W powercreep.

Unless it could do octuple U/AC-5s, then we might have a problem.

[Bombast]

Wraith 1, on 06 January 2017 - 09:19 PM, said:

Unless it could do octuple U/AC-5s, then we might have a problem.

That's 72 tons of cannon.

Good luck with that.

[The6thMessenger]

Bombast, on 06 January 2017 - 09:18 PM, said:

If we must.

But do we must? That is the question. (Le shameless rip off)

Bombast, on 06 January 2017 - 09:21 PM, said:

That's 72 tons of cannon.

Good luck with that.

8 MG would be quite funny, if it wasn't a 100-ton assault mech.

Edited by The6thMessenger, 06 January 2017 - 09:23 PM.

[Bombast]

The6thMessenger, on 06 January 2017 - 09:22 PM, said:

8 MG would be quite funny, if it wasn't a 100-ton assault mech.

100 ton version of the Dapperjager?

[RestosIII]

Bombast, on 06 January 2017 - 09:28 PM, said:

100 ton version of the Dapperjager?

I mean, we already have a 95 ton IS one.

[Hidirian]

Bombast, on 06 January 2017 - 09:28 PM, said:

100 ton version of the Dapperjager?

I'm all for it, I'd totally use 8mgs on a KC. As long as the engine limit could be boosted from a 360 to a 400 cap.

[Johnny Z]

To much to hope for a King Crab with ECM? I am only sure that KC's are good at short range mostly.
Some engine balancing would help it a lot.

Edited by Johnny Z, 06 January 2017 - 09:38 PM.

[Levi Porphyrogenitus]

I'm anticipating that, should PGI ever create one, it will end up with 3-4 energy on each arm and ballistics on the side torsos. Alternatively, it'd have 3-4 missile hardpoints on each arm and ballistics or energy on the side torsos (probably energy for this one).

[RestosIII]

Levi Porphyrogenitus, on 06 January 2017 - 09:41 PM, said:

I'm anticipating that, should PGI ever create one, it will end up with 3-4 energy on each arm and ballistics on the side torsos. Alternatively, it'd have 3-4 missile hardpoints on each arm and ballistics or energy on the side torsos (probably energy for this one).

Okay, I'd actually like to see them somehow fitting SRM/LRM racks to the inside of the claws.