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[Jay Leon Hart]

Raptor
Men Shen*
Black Hawk
Sunder

*I couldn't decide between the Blackjack and Firestarter, so I picked option #3

[Metus regem]

Jay Leon Hart, on 17 January 2017 - 09:38 AM, said:

Raptor
Men Shen*
Black Hawk
Sunder

*I couldn't decide between the Blackjack and Firestarter, so I picked option #3

The thing is, the Men Shen is actually good, while the Blackjack will be slow for it's weight and the Firestarter would be a larger Firestarter, with out the ability to swap out the flamers.... they be hard wired yo!

[Garfuncle]

You guys are really something. "Let's dredge through Sarna for the cheesiest mechs that fit MWO mechanics. **** Battletech lore and history! I want mah high hardpoints and hitboxes!"

Go play Hawken.

[Y E O N N E]

Garfuncle, on 17 January 2017 - 11:04 AM, said:

You guys are really something. "Let's dredge through Sarna for the cheesiest mechs that fit MWO mechanics. **** Battletech lore and history! I want mah high hardpoints and hitboxes!"

Go play Hawken.

Go play MW2.

Though I want the Raptor because I like my lighter lights and because it looks derp. That it can also bring 8x MedLas if it really wants to is icing.

[Metus regem]

Garfuncle, on 17 January 2017 - 11:04 AM, said:

You guys are really something. "Let's dredge through Sarna for the cheesiest mechs that fit MWO mechanics. **** Battletech lore and history! I want mah high hardpoints and hitboxes!"

Go play Hawken.

erm... I'm going for lore, but also not horrible under MWO's building and game play mechanics (meaning no locked SHS or really unfavorable geometry)....

Don't get me wrong the Strider and Owens would have decent geometry, but are bad due to being locked to SHS, the Avatar could be decent to good, provided they give it a make over, big flat ST's with an IS XL are not favorable in the current high alpha PPFLD environment.

Mechs like the Templar, granted she does have her problems, her open crit layout sucks really bad with out crit splitting, but her geometry (big arms, like Battlemaster big) looks okay, she has DHS, Endo with a decent XL engine for her weight a 340 make her a force to be reckoned with.

So not all of us are as you so put it "Let's dredge through Sarna for the cheesiest mechs that fit MWO mechanics. **** Battletech lore and history! I want mah high hardpoints and hitboxes!", some of us want a balanced and thoughtful approach to make this mech type not a total waste of development time for PGI.

[Bombast]

Garfuncle, on 17 January 2017 - 11:04 AM, said:

You guys are really something. "Let's dredge through Sarna for the cheesiest mechs that fit MWO mechanics. **** Battletech lore and history! I want mah high hardpoints and hitboxes!"

Go play Hawken.

Light Mech 'Winner' - Raptor. First Omnimech, fits lore and history for being an early Omnimech release

Medium Mech 'Winner' - Men Shen. Arguably the 'meta mech.'

Heavy Mech 'Winner' - Tie, Avatar and Black Hawk-KU. Same year, tied for first heavy IS heavy omnimech.

Assault Mech 'Winner' - Sunder. Earliest IS assault omnimech.

So, ok, the Men Shen is the 'cheesiest' MWO compliant omnimech. All the other poll leaders fit the fluff and lore perfectly, regardless of their physical characteristics.

[Lupis Volk]

Someone call for a Raptor?



As Bombast says, this would be the BEST bet for a IS Omni. It's one of the first. I want to see what Alex could do with this baby.

[FupDup]

Garfuncle, on 17 January 2017 - 11:04 AM, said:

You guys are really something. "Let's dredge through Sarna for the cheesiest mechs that fit MWO mechanics. **** Battletech lore and history! I want mah high hardpoints and hitboxes!"

Go play Hawken.

All of the IS Omnis have pretty significant drawbacks. Some have more drastic weaknesses than others, but none of them are perfectly razor-optimized like the Timber Wolf.

And seriously, all of these mechs exist in the lore/history. It's not like we're voting for entirely made-up mechs like the Roughneck. What you really mean to say here is mechs that have been present in previous MW games.

[Quicksilver Aberration]

Lupis Volk, on 17 January 2017 - 11:19 AM, said:

I want to see what Alex could do with this baby.

He could make merge the Raptor II's looks with the TRO, just to upset Yeonne.....

[Lightfoot]

Men Shen
Avatar
Templar alt D

[CycKath]

*long sigh* No love for ComStar Battle Cobra, first four configs are 3063 so valid within OP's rules

[Bombast]

CycKath, on 17 January 2017 - 01:14 PM, said:

*long sigh* No love for ComStar Battle Cobra, first four configs are 3063 so valid within OP's rules

Sorry. Doesn't have it's own page, so it didn't show up when I was digging around.

Though... seems like a **** move to give the IS a copied mech before its available to the Clans. But it should have been in there anyway, I guess.

[Garfuncle]

[Lupis Volk]

Quicksilver Kalasa, on 17 January 2017 - 01:00 PM, said:

He could make merge the Raptor II's looks with the TRO, just to upset Yeonne.....

Well i wouldn't say no to having them both, i honestly would hope Alex would keep the Raptor AT-ST look alike.

[Bombast]

Quicksilver Kalasa, on 17 January 2017 - 01:00 PM, said:

He could make merge the Raptor II's looks with the TRO, just to upset Yeonne.....

Seriously though, don't.

Please.

[Myke Pantera]

The Fox is too slow, the Owens is stuck with SHS. The Raptor is a bit slow but has good Omnipods to make up for it. Easy choice here

BlackJack is too slow, Strider is stuck with SHS, Firestarter has hardwired Flamers but otherwise ok, but MenShen is again the obvious choice. The counter part to Stormcrows, albeit not as good, but with access to ECM

Avatar & Perseus too slow for my liking, but otherwise not too bad. Black Hawk has a good engine, bet mediocre Hardpoint locations. Since I like fast mechs I'll go with the Big Nova

Hauptman too slow. Templar and Sunder both good, but went with Sunder

[NighthawK1337]

I like Novas so I voted for Blackhawk KU. It looks pretty awesome but my concern would be the XL engine.

[Acehilator]

Men Shen for sure. Yes it would be meta and pretty powerful, but all the other choices are absolute garbage. Only thing that would save even some of them would be complete unlock of everything, allowing them regular MWO Battlemech modification rules. Keeping the engines and unlocking everything else would still not be enough for most of them (also true for the reverse). And Clan players would open a saltmine of epic proportions, just see how most of them reacted to the cXL ST loss heat nerf coming, even though it is almost completely irrelevant.

/edit: spelling

Edited by Acehilator, 17 January 2017 - 03:00 PM.

[Kanil]

Bombast, on 17 January 2017 - 01:50 PM, said:

Though... seems like a **** move to give the IS a copied mech before its available to the Clans. But it should have been in there anyway, I guess.

If by "**** move" you mean "completely hilarious" then I agree.

Anyway, of the choices I quite like the Men Shen, it's really neat looking and is also not terrible.

'course it's only symmetrical in the artwork and not in the loadouts, so it'll end up as bastardized as the Marauder... ... maybe I don't want it then, let's go with the Raptor instead.

[FupDup]

Right now I'm working on spreadsheets for some of these Omnimechs (gonna ignore the super bad ones) for theorycrafting, boredom, and general amusement purposes. Here is the Men Shen.




Here's a really old spreadsheet of the Sunder using a crappier format, but I'm too lazy to update it.


blob:http://imgur.com/1810f3fb-e8e7-44ff-86a4-61f0eb15b1e3

Edited by FupDup, 17 January 2017 - 04:32 PM.