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[justcallme A S H]

Of course he isn't - it's "too hard", remember?

Malrock, on 28 February 2017 - 05:13 PM, said:

Look if your answer is that the best way to enjoy CW is to join a unit then joining a unit needs to a helluva lot easier than it is now. Gotta forum warrior it then, apply, then see if schedules match, then get on coms, then.... then... then.... It must be easy for people to do these things with out leaving the game itself. Yes a general chat would be great, communication in this game is non existent outside of drops, and often that is pretty sparse.

For the life of me i have no idea why we can't talk in the CW pre drop area,or why when limited to text communication the text thing defaults to speak to all, as that isn't even remotely helpful.

There is very little social interaction here at all, which

There is nothing stopping you from dropping WITH a unit & not being in said unit
--- simply get onto their TS
--- ask to join their group drop.
--- you might have to wait 15mins as they are already in drop

It is no bullsheet - that easy. I do it most days, I rarely drop with my unit because I'm Oceanic and 90+ of them are US. So I either join another group or rustle up my own. Anywhere from 3-12 players doesn't take long.


As to the rest:

1. There is Faction / Clan chat windows. People just don't use it as TS is far easier, most people play with people they know (kinda).

2. It's easy to get into a unit, just find their Enjin site - click apply. It's about as hard as that, usually sorted out in 24hrs or less. Some don't even have a Enjin site, just log onto their TS - drop with them and you're in.

3. Nothing about scheduling a match is required, I can't think of a unit that has this requirement off the top of my head.

4. You can change the chat to "TEAM" if you click the button, yes its a broken PGI feature, but it's hardly a massive inconvenience.


It seems you're jaded somehow (like most Steiner loyalists). If it doesn't work for you, send PGI an email. But don't sit here and say it's difficult/hard/impossible to do stuff that is very simple to achieve.

[Carl Vickers]

KingCobra, on 28 February 2017 - 05:32 PM, said:

Live 1991 said (Adding a chat room would be pointless, it will just be spammed like crazy and trolled hard.)

Lets be honest a new player comes on the forums here to ask questions and he is trolled endlessly by the forum Warrior trolls.

It would be a lot better to have a open chat room so new players could ask questions and find players to help them out for pugging and groups.

And no sir Aussies are not smarter than anyone else just ask the Aborigines in your country they are the smart ones?
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I can only hope a MOD or Devs themselves read this thread so many good ideas to help this game keep up the comments.

Lol, newbies will get trolled worse in an open chat room than on here so no to that.

Lets not get into a race issue thing here, im sure nothing can go wrong there and im sure race relations in the USA are going just fine too.

[Vxheous]

KingCobra, on 28 February 2017 - 05:32 PM, said:

Live 1991 said (Adding a chat room would be pointless, it will just be spammed like crazy and trolled hard.)

Lets be honest a new player comes on the forums here to ask questions and he is trolled endlessly by the forum Warrior trolls.

It would be a lot better to have a open chat room so new players could ask questions and find players to help them out for pugging and groups.

And no sir Aussies are not smarter than anyone else just ask the Aborigines in your country they are the smart ones?
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I can only hope a MOD or Devs themselves read this thread so many good ideas to help this game keep up the comments.

True newbies don't get trolled, people are quite helpful with actual new players. It's the players with dunning-kruger effect that gets trolled on the forums.

Edited by Vxheous Kerensky, 28 February 2017 - 05:57 PM.

[Liveish]

KingCobra, on 28 February 2017 - 05:32 PM, said:

Live 1991 said (Adding a chat room would be pointless, it will just be spammed like crazy and trolled hard.)
And no sir Aussies are not smarter than anyone else just ask the Aborigines in your country they are the smart ones?

I drop and work with a few, the ones that play MWO understand the comms and the advantage of using comms.

If you are trying to bring non MWO problems into MWO shame on you, grow up and maybe have a look at yourself in the mirror.

I have no problems with a chat room, but if you want a better game put some time into the game like the rest of us and join a public team speak.

CW "was" a Hardcore mode, ATM its a crap as there is too many low skill, non units not listen to voice or text chat in game.

[justcallme A S H]

Carl Vickers, on 28 February 2017 - 05:44 PM, said:

Lol, newbies will get trolled worse in an open chat room than on here so no to that.

Lets not get into a race issue thing here, im sure nothing can go wrong there and im sure race relations in the USA are going just fine too.

Mate, King Cobra can't even use the QUOTE function on the forums.

That says enough.

[KingCobra]

Why troll me? Im just trying to make suggestions so new players and others could get together share info find games and groups?

So please if you want to troll go away this is a thread for suggestion to fix FP and MWO thanks.

And I personnaly think a chat room would be a huge asset to MWO

[Liveish]

KingCobra, on 28 February 2017 - 06:16 PM, said:

Why troll me? Im just trying to make suggestions so new players and others could get together share info find games and groups?

You lost all credibility when you started to bring in race, or non MWO problems into your argument

[KingCobra]

Live1991 said (You lost all credibility when you started to bring in race, or non MWO problems into your argument)

What by saying aborigines are smart? I hardly call that racist you sir were implying everyone but aussies were dumb ? so who is the real racist here not me my friend.

Any way thanks for the great info and comments by most posters hopefully PGI will work on FP more to make wait times less for everyone.

And to be honest since my quote function has not worked right for 3 years now no matter what browser I try

[Liveish]

KingCobra, on 28 February 2017 - 06:29 PM, said:

Live1991 said (You lost all credibility when you started to bring in race, or non MWO problems into your argument)

What by saying aborigines are smart? I hardly call that racist you sir were implying everyone but aussies were dumb ? so who is the real racist here not me my friend.

Aborigines are Aussies ???

I was saying that Aussie new players are going out of there way to find a unit and to get help in this game why are you and the rest of the USA players posting on here not doing this ?

You are right its pretty dumb not to seek out help from units and use third party comms when its very common in the game, i will agree with you there.

[Davegt27]

how about this idea
call it the one bucket system

you just have Clan on one side and IS on other that should solve the FP problem

[Carl Vickers]

Davegt27, on 28 February 2017 - 06:50 PM, said:

how about this idea
call it the one bucket system

you just have Clan on one side and IS on other that should solve the FP problem

How about no.

Most teams have no issues playing one side or the other or both.

Edit, just to add, no matter whether you are playing IS v IS or Clan V Clan or IS V Clan, solo pugglets are still going to get rolled by teams.

Find a unit and group up, till you do that you are going to get clubbed.

Edited by Carl Vickers, 28 February 2017 - 07:57 PM.

[Archer Magnus]

Davegt27, on 28 February 2017 - 06:50 PM, said:

how about this idea
call it the one bucket system

you just have Clan on one side and IS on other that should solve the FP problem

I like that idea!

As a noob, playing PUG Faction matches, I think I have been on the winning side maybe 3 times. The system almost always matches inner sphere pugs against a team clan.

-You wait a long time
-Get your *** kicked
-Low payout
-Minus fun

Why play Faction? That is the problem.

If there was a fast tiered "bucket system" where I could play for faction points that would be great. Have Quick Play 1 Mech, Quick Play Faction Drop Deck. It would add a nice progression system.

[justcallme A S H]

The system matches you against whoever is in the system.

If you're seeing teams on the Clan side - guess what that means? Form your own team perhaps?

The problem is your unwillingness to work in a team environment in a mode that is team centric. Nothing can help you. Even a match maker (due to low populations) would still mean you'd face teams.

[Carl Vickers]

Archer Magnus, on 28 February 2017 - 07:02 PM, said:

I like that idea!

As a noob, playing PUG Faction matches, I think I have been on the winning side maybe 3 times. The system almost always matches inner sphere pugs against a team clan.

-You wait a long time
-Get your *** kicked
-Low payout
-Minus fun

Why play Faction? That is the problem.

If there was a fast tiered "bucket system" where I could play for faction points that would be great. Have Quick Play 1 Mech, Quick Play Faction Drop Deck. It would add a nice progression system.

The highlighted portion of your post is what you need to fix. Find a unit, jump onto FRR hub, there are plenty of people grouping up and dropping in there, you may even find a unit in there to join. Look in the Factions - Innersphere and find a unit advertising in there, post and drop with them. See if they fit your needs and if you get along with them, if not, move onto the next unit.

It really is as simple as that, unless you are one of those anti-social people then you have an issue only you can fix.

[Archer Magnus]

justcallme A S H, on 28 February 2017 - 07:05 PM, said:

The system matches you against whoever is in the system.

If you're seeing teams on the Clan side - guess what that means? Form your own team perhaps?

The problem is your unwillingness to work in a team environment in a mode that is team centric. Nothing can help you. Even a match maker (due to low populations) would still mean you'd face teams.

My unwillingness to work in a team, that is why this game mode is dying? Well problem solved people, I just need to be willing to work in a team. *slow clapping*

[Malrock]

KingCobra, on 28 February 2017 - 05:32 PM, said:

Live 1991 said (Adding a chat room would be pointless, it will just be spammed like crazy and trolled hard.)

Lets be honest a new player comes on the forums here to ask questions and he is trolled endlessly by the forum Warrior trolls.

It would be a lot better to have a open chat room so new players could ask questions and find players to help them out for pugging and groups.

And no sir Aussies are not smarter than anyone else just ask the Aborigines in your country they are the smart ones?
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I can only hope a MOD or Devs themselves read this thread so many good ideas to help this game keep up the comments.

The idea that there will be troll is such a cop out. Of course there will be trolls in general chat, but there are a lot more positive interactions as well. All MMO's are like this. Yeah general chat can be obnoxious but it also can be a great place to talk to others if you have a question, or concern. Would be worth the troll issues to have general chat because then people could actually talk to each other.

[Malrock]

Carl Vickers, on 28 February 2017 - 07:11 PM, said:

The highlighted portion of your post is what you need to fix. Find a unit, jump onto FRR hub, there are plenty of people grouping up and dropping in there, you may even find a unit in there to join. Look in the Factions - Innersphere and find a unit advertising in there, post and drop with them. See if they fit your needs and if you get along with them, if not, move onto the next unit.

It really is as simple as that, unless you are one of those anti-social people then you have an issue only you can fix.

No it isn't simple. It needs to be simple. You should not have to send people outside of the game to join up, to a unit. That is what you are missing. All other games do this much better and allow unit/guild formation form inside the game. Sending people outside the game to multiple forums or some weird team speak hub that you gotta hunt the access information to ain't the solution.

[Malrock]

justcallme A S H, on 28 February 2017 - 07:05 PM, said:

The system matches you against whoever is in the system.

If you're seeing teams on the Clan side - guess what that means? Form your own team perhaps?

The problem is your unwillingness to work in a team environment in a mode that is team centric. Nothing can help you. Even a match maker (due to low populations) would still mean you'd face teams.

I thought you wanted to grow the user base. What you just said was go home unless you drop as 12. Not particularly helpful, and illustrates nicely why the cw game mode is dying. And there is no other game mode that allows multi drop with a drop deck. If you want to play with a drop deck it is the only game in town.

[Nightbird]

Please decrease clan tonnage to 230.

[MischiefSC]

NlGHTBlRD, on 28 February 2017 - 08:18 PM, said:

Please decrease clan tonnage to 230.

Yes, and no Clan lights except Kitfox.