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Next Meck Pack Poll Discussion! Updated Choices And Dev Comments! Escalation Mechs Removed!


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#2121 Will9761

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Posted 25 February 2019 - 09:50 AM

Since we already have two IS Assaults, I suspect we will get an IS Heavy. Since we have been getting the unseens recently, it will probably be these heavies:

Ostsol
Ostroc
Crusader

#2122 Grus

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Posted 25 February 2019 - 09:54 AM

View PostGas Guzzler, on 25 February 2019 - 09:33 AM, said:


Then scale back the "god" durability quirks until they don't out perform similar clan equivalents? It's not that complicated.

I still run XLs on some heavies and assaults if they have decent hitboxes and move quickly enough. It rarely ever bites me.


Then people arnt XL checking like they should be. Even with LFE, if your only shot is a ST, take it, it will not only reduce firepower but make that IS pilot have to actually manage his heat.

So to try and force a IS mech to use a XL (med/lights excluded) AND give it Godly Plate of the Whale quirks would be way too ibma.
But on the flipside, again it would be too weak. It's tough mech to balance in the meta.

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Posted 25 February 2019 - 10:22 AM

View PostWill9761, on 25 February 2019 - 09:50 AM, said:

Since we already have two IS Assaults, I suspect we will get an IS Heavy. Since we have been getting the unseens recently, it will probably be these heavies:

Ostsol
Ostroc
Crusader

It's going to be the Crusader.

#2124 Gas Guzzler

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Posted 25 February 2019 - 11:22 AM

View PostGrus, on 25 February 2019 - 09:54 AM, said:

Then people arnt XL checking like they should be. Even with LFE, if your only shot is a ST, take it, it will not only reduce firepower but make that IS pilot have to actually manage his heat.

So to try and force a IS mech to use a XL (med/lights excluded) AND give it Godly Plate of the Whale quirks would be way too ibma.
But on the flipside, again it would be too weak. It's tough mech to balance in the meta.


Eh, more like the builds I use XLs with don't require you to get up in people's faces so I can use good positioning to not get killed prematurely. It wouldn't take THAT much quirking to make them viable. Certainly not more than the level of durability that other mechs in game get.

Put it this way, if they can make Clan Battlemechs and Clan Omnimechs balanced with one another, then they can make IS Battlemechs and IS omnimechs balanced with each other.

#2125 Jonathan8883

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Posted 25 February 2019 - 03:24 PM

The last IS light released was the Flea. I predict Stinger/Wasp.

Jumpy Mist Lynx with lasers & ECM is fun.... a Stinger/Wasp will be even better (and yes, they get ECM variants).

#2126 Grus

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Posted 25 February 2019 - 03:28 PM

View PostGas Guzzler, on 25 February 2019 - 11:22 AM, said:


Eh, more like the builds I use XLs with don't require you to get up in people's faces so I can use good positioning to not get killed prematurely. It wouldn't take THAT much quirking to make them viable. Certainly not more than the level of durability that other mechs in game get.

Put it this way, if they can make Clan Battlemechs and Clan Omnimechs balanced with one another, then they can make IS Battlemechs and IS omnimechs balanced with each other.


And in my experience the battlemechs for clan are just better at mid range to brawl. Long range I have more omnis.

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Posted 25 February 2019 - 04:09 PM

View PostWill9761, on 25 February 2019 - 09:50 AM, said:

Since we already have two IS Assaults, I suspect we will get an IS Heavy. Since we have been getting the unseens recently, it will probably be these heavies:

Ostsol
Ostroc
Crusader


Time for... *drumroll*... THE OSTWAR!!!

#2128 FLG 01

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Posted 25 February 2019 - 04:30 PM

View PostWill9761, on 25 February 2019 - 09:50 AM, said:

Since we already have two IS Assaults, I suspect we will get an IS Heavy. Since we have been getting the unseens recently, it will probably be these heavies:

Ostsol
Ostroc
Crusader

We don't know how exactly the lawsuit was resolved. It might well be that PGI is only allowed to continue using existing unseens like the Marauder. Adding new ones could be another issue.

Tbh, I would have expected the Crusader being what the Marauder II became: the pre-order bonus poster child of MW:5. Well perhaps they reserve the Crusader for the actual release, but I am quite sure they won't do any less. I mean throwing in an important Mech like the Crusader just in between does not seem right.

I do expect some SW-era unit but I really cannot tell what unit exactly. I could not even guess the weight class. I'd wish for the Lynx, which has a SW-downgrade variant, but I am afraid if it is a Medium... we might get the Dervish.

#2129 jjm1

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Posted 26 February 2019 - 04:05 AM

The Rifleman wasnt ugly enough for me. We need to go deeper. Deeper down into the dark depths of BattleTechs art so see how deep it goes.

All the way to the Mandrill. And maybe even a bit further.

#2130 Grus

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Posted 26 February 2019 - 10:06 AM

View Postjjm1, on 26 February 2019 - 04:05 AM, said:

The Rifleman wasnt ugly enough for me. We need to go deeper. Deeper down into the dark depths of BattleTechs art so see how deep it goes.

All the way to the Mandrill. And maybe even a bit further.


Did someone say ugly?

http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Blood_Kite

#2131 Valdarion Silarius

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Posted 26 February 2019 - 10:15 AM

View Postjjm1, on 26 February 2019 - 04:05 AM, said:

The Rifleman wasnt ugly enough for me. We need to go deeper. Deeper down into the dark depths of BattleTechs art so see how deep it goes.

All the way to the Mandrill. And maybe even a bit further.

I find both the IS Rifleman/Rifleman IIC to be pretty good looking mechs in general. But if you want some truely ugly mechs here are some candidates:

Blitzkreig, aka the skillet on legs because you never know when you want to fry an egg in battle -
Spoiler


Flashman, aka the walking light bulb (could pass as the urbanmech's older brother) -
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Howler (Baboon), aka who needs side torsos anyways? -
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Bonus round: Grizzly. I would lol hard if PGI goes with this artwork concept design, because why not make your cockpit almost the entire length of your body torso?
Spoiler

Edited by Arnold The Governator, 26 February 2019 - 10:20 AM.


#2132 Gas Guzzler

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Posted 26 February 2019 - 10:16 AM

I'd like to see:

Sunder
Raptor
Turkina
Kingfisher

#2133 Jay Leon Hart

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Posted 26 February 2019 - 10:20 AM

View PostGrus, on 26 February 2019 - 10:06 AM, said:


I can do "better" than that

Here, look

Not even a mother could love that!

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#2134 Valdarion Silarius

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Posted 26 February 2019 - 10:33 AM

View PostJay Leon Hart, on 26 February 2019 - 10:20 AM, said:

I can do "better" than that

Here, look

Not even a mother could love that!

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Ok, I gotta admit that was well played.

#2135 Grus

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Posted 26 February 2019 - 11:07 AM

View PostJay Leon Hart, on 26 February 2019 - 10:20 AM, said:

I can do "better" than that

Here, look

Not even a mother could love that!

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https://goo.gl/images/kFqSh2

YOU SON OF A *****!!!

https://goo.gl/images/HcX3BW

#2136 Kanil

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Posted 26 February 2019 - 01:46 PM

View PostArnold The Governator, on 26 February 2019 - 10:15 AM, said:

But if you want some truely ugly mechs here are some candidates:

Your list needs more Yeoman.
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#2137 Battlemaster56

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Posted 26 February 2019 - 01:53 PM

View PostGrus, on 26 February 2019 - 11:07 AM, said:



That SW/WH40k art will make a dine addition to my collection.

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Posted 26 February 2019 - 03:47 PM

View Postjjm1, on 26 February 2019 - 04:05 AM, said:

The Rifleman wasnt ugly enough for me. We need to go deeper. Deeper down into the dark depths of BattleTechs art so see how deep it goes. All the way to the Mandrill. And maybe even a bit further.


There's a Clan assault mech in the 3055 (maybe?) TRO that's like 80 tons and has legs so thin they might as well be made of string. I looks like a flamingo.

EDIT: this thing http://www.sarna.net...k_Python_(Viper)

Edited by Bowelhacker, 26 February 2019 - 03:51 PM.


#2139 Jay Leon Hart

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Posted 26 February 2019 - 04:07 PM

View PostBowelhacker, on 26 February 2019 - 03:47 PM, said:

There's a Clan assault mech in the 3055 (maybe?) TRO that's like 80 tons and has legs so thin they might as well be made of string. I looks like a flamingo.

EDIT: this thing http://www.sarna.net...k_Python_(Viper)

Which, oddly enough, is one of the best remaining Heavy choices for Clan.
The "1" has 8E 2B
The 2 has 7E 3B & ECM
The 3 has 8E 2B
The 4 has 9E

Being a BattleMech with JJs and a 375XL as standard, it's pretty much a better Timber Wolf

#2140 Alex Morgaine

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Posted 26 February 2019 - 04:21 PM

Name the hero Vic and give it a good spread of weaponry hardpoints for different... Options :3 and i'd buy it probably.

Masc to SPEED UP ETC :B





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