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[FupDup]

Will9761, on 14 November 2017 - 07:30 PM, said:

Russ said that he does not want the IS to copy Clantech, so this includes Omnimechs as well.

IS Omnis would be equipped with IS equipment though, no copying other than the pod-swapping minigame.

[Y E O N N E]

It's also a weak-sauce argument regardless since we have Clans copying IS tech with BattleMechs, even whole chassis.

[Athom83]

Yeonne Greene, on 14 November 2017 - 07:51 PM, said:

It's also a weak-sauce argument regardless since we have Clans copying IS tech with BattleMechs, even whole chassis.

Yah, including people begging for even more chassis copies (Rifleman IIC, Warhammer IIC, Urbie IIC, Phoenix Hawk IIC, etc)

[Evgenyd92]

First of all I want Crusader and Gunslinger!

[Will9761]

FupDup, on 14 November 2017 - 07:43 PM, said:

IS Omnis would be equipped with IS equipment though, no copying other than the pod-swapping minigame.

Yeonne Greene, on 14 November 2017 - 07:51 PM, said:

It's also a weak-sauce argument regardless since we have Clans copying IS tech with BattleMechs, even whole chassis.

I don't see why not to have them in game anyways. Even the IS have versions of Clan weapons like ER Lasers, Ultra Autocannons, AC-LBXs, and Streak SRMs.

Edited by Will9761, 15 November 2017 - 02:04 PM.

[Valdarion Silarius]

Yeonne Greene, on 14 November 2017 - 07:51 PM, said:

It's also a weak-sauce argument regardless since we have Clans copying IS tech with BattleMechs, even whole chassis.

While some of those chassis aren't direct copies of their IS counterparts? I can argue that isn't a valid arguement either.

Athom83, on 15 November 2017 - 06:30 AM, said:

Yah, including people begging for even more chassis copies (Rifleman IIC, Warhammer IIC, Urbie IIC, Phoenix Hawk IIC, etc)

Because some of those said mechs that you listed are completely different from their IS counter parts? Most of them being tonnage differences notably, I think the confusion that derives from their names is largely in fact due to what their original purposes were.

Take for example the IS Rifleman vs the Rifleman IIC. I have a thread explaining the differences, but a TL:DR is that the IS Rifleman is a 60 ton IS mech vs the clan revised Rifleman IIC 65 ton Battlemech with similar roles but different design concepts. The Phoenix Hawk IIC is an even more drastic comparison because now we are comparing an IS 45 ton medium to a 80 ton assault with very different roles. I can see why people would get confused, but the argument "It's just an IS copy" for the clan side of things is not a very strong one either.

[Y E O N N E]

Arnold The Governator, on 15 November 2017 - 03:26 PM, said:

While some of those chassis aren't direct copies of their IS counterparts? I can argue that isn't a valid arguement either.

And some of them are direct copies.

So, no you can't, because only one of them has to be for my argument to be true.

[chucklesMuch]

Will9761, on 14 November 2017 - 02:28 PM, said:

This is a list of the most wanted mechs by popular demand, based on each IS and Clan class. This time it will be from one of each mech that has the most votes, again IS Omnis are excluded from this list cuz PGI.

Top 8 Most Popular Mechs
1. Blood Asp (90 tons): Clan Assault OmniMech - 667 votes
2. Fafnir (100 tons): IS Assault BattleMech- 664 votes
3. Fire Moth/Dasher (20 tons): Clan Light OmniMech - 608 votes
4. Rifleman IIC (65 tons): Clan Heavy BattleMech - 601 votes
5. Hollander (35 tons): IS Light BattleMech - 472 votes
6. Crusader (65 tons): IS Heavy BattleMech - 414 votes
7. Shadow Hawk IIC (45 tons): Clan Medium BattleMech - 346 votes
8. Dervish (55 tons): IS Medium BattleMech - 286 votes

Mmm some pepole need to lose there voting card...

Hollander/Crusader out ....Raptor/Men shen/...aka is onmo's in

[xVLFBERHxT]

Hollander is a circus mech...

[Battlemaster56]

chucklesMuch, on 15 November 2017 - 08:25 PM, said:

Mmm some pepole need to lose there voting card...

Hollander/Crusader out ....Raptor/Men shen/...aka is onmo's in

I understand the hollander but what's wrong with the crusader.

[The Lighthouse]

xVLFBERHxT, on 15 November 2017 - 09:56 PM, said:

Hollander is a circus mech...

But I used Hollander a lot when I was playing Mechcommander. I demand all of the mechs from Mechcommander and its expansion Gold to this game.

Edit : Actually, Hollander in Mechcommander was version II, which is actually a medium mech instead of light mech.

Edited by The Lighthouse, 15 November 2017 - 11:44 PM.

[Jay Leon Hart]

xVLFBERHxT, on 15 November 2017 - 09:56 PM, said:

Hollander is a circus mech...

And what a glorious circus it shall be!

[chucklesMuch]

Battlemaster56, on 15 November 2017 - 11:03 PM, said:

I understand the hollander but what's wrong with the crusader.

Slow 65 ton mech that don't look to offer anything thing new or interesting.

[Battlemaster56]

chucklesMuch, on 16 November 2017 - 02:54 AM, said:

Slow 65 ton mech that don't look to offer anything thing new or interesting.

Just read up the mech, and all I see is a missile boat, and it's not slow seeing it have the same engine rating as the Thunderbolt and be a better missile boat option unlike the Archer, with its cockpit problem, and MDD St's. And be a nice brawler for the IS.

[TheArisen]

The Crusader isn't a bad choice and it'd probably be a straight upgrade over the Catapult, especially as an srm brawler. Mrms not so much as the missiles are either in the arms or hips (it says so on sarna).

The Hollander... is just bad and a waste of dev time. Just put a gauss on a Raven or Blackjack and you'll have your Hollander. Actually you'd have a better setup because those two put the GR in the arm.

[theta123]

All of you traitors forget about the MARAUDER II. Why is everyone forgetting that insane and beautifull mech? Its the marauder, but heavier! more guns!

[xVLFBERHxT]

Humanoid clan mech with high ballistic/ energy mounts: Burrock!



Sorry for bringing this mech again, but the art is a blast!

Edited by xVLFBERHxT, 16 November 2017 - 05:13 AM.

[Y E O N N E]

theta123, on 16 November 2017 - 04:51 AM, said:

All of you traitors forget about the MARAUDER II. Why is everyone forgetting that insane and beautifull mech? Its the marauder, but heavier! more guns!

Slot-locked.

[Pariah Devalis]

So people vote for the Hollander, yet perfectly viable Quadmechs are the joke mechs.

[Eidolon 29]

I'd like to see the:

Pillager http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Pillager
Grand Titan http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Grand_Titan
Yu Huang http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Yu_Huang
Charger http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Charger (Yes a bit of joke mech in lore, but it's hard points would allow for a good mech)

Toyama http://www.sarna.net...ama_(BattleMech)
Lao Hu http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Lao_Hu
Thunder http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Thunder
Shootist http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Shootist
Hercules http://www.sarna.net...les_(BattleMech)
Tempest http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Tempest
Shen Yi http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Shen_Yi (though not in current timeline)
Anvil http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Anvil (very much want this mech, ecm 60 ton IS brawler in lore)

Men shen http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Men_Shen
Wraith http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Wraith
Huron Warrior http://www.sarna.net...i/Huron_Warrior
Bloodhound http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Bloodhound
Sha Yu http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Sha_Yu

Anubis http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Anubis
Hammer http://www.sarna.net...mer_(BattleMech)
Jackal http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Jackal

Edited by Eidolon 29, 18 November 2017 - 08:02 PM.