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[Powerlifter]

Hawk819, on 12 September 2024 - 11:01 PM, said:

If I miss my guess, then maybe getting one of the IICs. Griffin, or Shadow Hawk. Either would be a nice fit.

Griffin IIC would be cool:
https://www.sarna.net/wiki/Griffin_IIC

I think a Rime Otter would be a lot of fun too:
https://www.sarna.net/wiki/Rime_Otter

Hierofalcon:
https://www.sarna.net/wiki/Hierofalcon

I'd prefer the Rime Otter or Hierofalcon to the Griffin IIC since we already have IS Griffins. Something new.

Edited by Powerlifter, 13 September 2024 - 12:04 PM.

[BlueDevilspawn]

1453 R, on 12 September 2024 - 09:00 PM, said:

Tiy0s, above, stated that we were getting two entirely new chasses in the works - a Chonker and a Fast Boy. It doesn't get any more chonk than the Bane, so whatever's next is the Fast Boy. Which, considering the loyalty COM IIC has a custom new-'Mech model, seems to indicate the COM-IIC could well be Code: Fastboi.

Tiyos was referring specifically to new chassis.... he has said in the cauldron feedback server that the next new chassis is a Clan light.

[LordNothing]

thor II confirmed.

BlueDevilspawn, on 13 September 2024 - 03:32 PM, said:

Tiyos was referring specifically to new chassis.... he has said in the cauldron feedback server that the next new chassis is a Clan light.

that might be the loyalty com-iic. they also dropped the hint "grand summoner" aka thor II, so i presume thats the next pack. was kind of hoping the new light would be a pack but i guess its a one off. qualifying for loyalty is what you have to do to get new lights now.

Edited by LordNothing, 13 September 2024 - 08:20 PM.

[BlueDevilspawn]

LordNothing, on 13 September 2024 - 08:15 PM, said:

thor II confirmed.



that might be the loyalty com-iic. they also dropped the hint "grand summoner" aka thor II, so i presume thats the next pack. was kind of hoping the new light would be a pack but i guess its a one off. qualifying for loyalty is what you have to do to get new lights now.

No, it’s not the commando IIC. He has specifically stated in the cauldron feedback server that the next NEW CHASSIS is a clan light omnimech.

[Hawk819]

BlueDevilspawn, on 14 September 2024 - 07:07 AM, said:

No, it’s not the commando IIC. He has specifically stated in the cauldron feedback server that the next NEW CHASSIS is a clan light omnimech.

Even money says it's the Hellion.

[Samziel]

Hawk819, on 14 September 2024 - 09:18 AM, said:

Even money says it's the Hellion.

Hellion is 3059 and the new mech is made for MW5 Clans, so it likely needs to be 3052 or before. Fire Falcon seems the most likely option unless they've found a workaround for the speed issues with Fire Moth.

Fire Falcon would be nice since we only have 1 25t Clan mech, soon 2 with the Commando IIC. Though we only have 1 20t Clan mech as well.

Edited by Samziel, 14 September 2024 - 09:32 AM.

[1453 R]

If the new design is, as others have said, a light Clan OmniMech available during the early Invasion era, there are literally two entire choices left - Fire Moth or Fire Falcon. Fire Moth is notoriously No Go in MWO and Tiy0s has relatively recently stated this has not changed - it simply does Bad Things to hit reg and there's no fixing that, nor is the team willing to make the Fire Moth not a Fire Moth to cram it into the limits of MWO.

So, Code: Fastboi is very likely the Fire Falcon

I don't have access to TROs to knwo where all the hardpoints are, but the Fire Falcon Prime is a 5E2M, and if the art is anything to go by four of those E are clustered in the right arm. The Alpha and Bravo are Light Snipey Things nobody will like, AC/2 light 'Mechs are bleh, but the Charlie is a 3E/2M/4B. The Delta is the last timeline-appropriate (for MW5: Clans) variant in the MUL from what I can see, and it's 2E3M. So the thing overall seems to have enough hardpoints to get by for a 25-tonner. It's significantly faster than the Meth Linux at the same weight bracket, but it doesn't have Mad Hops the way the Linux does.

As for MWO-esque powercreepy variants, well, the Foxtrot continues the grand tradition of Foxtrot variants being super spammy, heh. 4B in each side torso for 8B total, and 2E in each arm for 4E total. Easy swap to 6E8B using the Prime right arm, which will doubtless be turned into a tiny little hell-gnawer with micro lasers and machine guns. Other variants have fewer total weapons and thus would need fancy quirkening to be worthwhile, which I doubt we'll see if they do the Foxtrot. And we all know they're gonna do the Foxtrot. Heh.

[Hawk819]

1453 R, on 14 September 2024 - 08:00 PM, said:

If the new design is, as others have said, a light Clan OmniMech available during the early Invasion era, there are literally two entire choices left - Fire Moth or Fire Falcon. Fire Moth is notoriously No Go in MWO and Tiy0s has relatively recently stated this has not changed - it simply does Bad Things to hit reg and there's no fixing that, nor is the team willing to make the Fire Moth not a Fire Moth to cram it into the limits of MWO.

So, Code: Fastboi is very likely the Fire Falcon

I don't have access to TROs to knwo where all the hardpoints are, but the Fire Falcon Prime is a 5E2M, and if the art is anything to go by four of those E are clustered in the right arm. The Alpha and Bravo are Light Snipey Things nobody will like, AC/2 light 'Mechs are bleh, but the Charlie is a 3E/2M/4B. The Delta is the last timeline-appropriate (for MW5: Clans) variant in the MUL from what I can see, and it's 2E3M. So the thing overall seems to have enough hardpoints to get by for a 25-tonner. It's significantly faster than the Meth Linux at the same weight bracket, but it doesn't have Mad Hops the way the Linux does.

As for MWO-esque powercreepy variants, well, the Foxtrot continues the grand tradition of Foxtrot variants being super spammy, heh. 4B in each side torso for 8B total, and 2E in each arm for 4E total. Easy swap to 6E8B using the Prime right arm, which will doubtless be turned into a tiny little hell-gnawer with micro lasers and machine guns. Other variants have fewer total weapons and thus would need fancy quirkening to be worthwhile, which I doubt we'll see if they do the Foxtrot. And we all know they're gonna do the Foxtrot. Heh.

There's also the Hellion to consider. So, yes, the Fire Falcon is one, but not the only one Light OmniMech. Furthermore, if they wanted to (and they have), create a totally different chassis that isn't Lore-based. They've done it before, and there's no reason to believe they won't do so now.

There's also another to consider, and it's not an OmniMech: that Fastboi as it code suggests, leads me to believe it's a Locust IIC. And it makes sense. The Locust is already here, and it gives the Devs to save on resource. The forthcoming Commando IiC for the Loyalty Rewards is the other BIG Hint. Plus, it'll be easier to make using the current IS version we have now. Just a thought.

[Samziel]

Hawk819, on 14 September 2024 - 08:48 PM, said:

There's also the Hellion to consider. So, yes, the Fire Falcon is one, but not the only one Light OmniMech. Furthermore, if they wanted to (and they have), create a totally different chassis that isn't Lore-based. They've done it before, and there's no reason to believe they won't do so now.

There's also another to consider, and it's not an OmniMech: that Fastboi as it code suggests, leads me to believe it's a Locust IIC. And it makes sense. The Locust is already here, and it gives the Devs to save on resource. The forthcoming Commando IiC for the Loyalty Rewards is the other BIG Hint. Plus, it'll be easier to make using the current IS version we have now. Just a thought.

First of all. In case you didnt know, Tiy0s (dev) already said in Cauldron Discord that it will be a Clan Omnimech. So it's not going to be Locust IIC.

Secondly, again, Hellion is an unlikely option because it's way too late in the timeframe. Unless they commit some prototype shenanigans for MW5 Clans.

Now when I think about it the Fire Falcon is quite late for the invasion too. It's also a Jade Falcon design and we're playing as Smoke Jaguars. But besides the Fire Moth which is more unlikely, there aint many good options left.


Edit: Nvm they did it lol. Props for them for actually investigating what breaks it.

Edited by Samziel, 13 December 2024 - 11:38 PM.

[Navid A1]

Well.
You can remove another most requested mech from the poll.

[Gas Guzzler]

Navid A1, on 13 December 2024 - 08:52 PM, said:

Well.
You can remove another most requested mech from the poll.

It has been done!

Obligatory plug for Turkina and Kingfisher

[Will9761]

Well, I can scratch one more thing off my "Things I never thought we'd see or get in MWO" list.

[Navid A1]

Gas Guzzler, on 15 December 2024 - 10:32 AM, said:

It has been done!

Obligatory plug for Turkina and Kingfisher

[Will9761]

I wouldn't mind seeing some more IS Omnis as Booster Packs. Given the fact that PGI stated that they are going towards a "KU-like" design as long as the OmniMechs lore states that Mech was built from it or came from salvaged parts. Here's what I can see using recycled assets:
Kit Fox into Arctic Fox
Firestarter into Firestarter Omni
Blackjack into BlackJack Omni
Bushwacker into Gauntlet
Raven into Men Shen
Mad Dog into Avatar

[Hawk819]

Gas Guzzler, on 15 December 2024 - 10:32 AM, said:

It has been done!

Obligatory plug for Turkina and Kingfisher

Kingfisher, first, then Turkina.

Also, would love to see the IIC's - Shadow Hawk, Griffin, Locust, and Phoenix Hawk. C'mon, PGI, you can do this!

[Will9761]

Hawk819, on 22 January 2025 - 03:20 PM, said:

Kingfisher, first, then Turkina.

Also, would love to see the IIC's - Shadow Hawk, Griffin, Locust, and Phoenix Hawk. C'mon, PGI, you can do this!

The Turkina would be perfect for a MW5: Clans DLC based on Clan Jade Falcon.

[Battlemaster56]

Will9761, on 22 January 2025 - 02:48 PM, said:

I wouldn't mind seeing some more IS Omnis as Booster Packs. Given the fact that PGI stated that they are going towards a "KU-like" design as long as the OmniMechs lore states that Mech was built from it or came from salvaged parts. Here's what I can see using recycled assets: Kit Fox into Arctic Fox Firestarter into Firestarter Omni Blackjack into BlackJack Omni Bushwacker into Gauntlet Raven into Men Shen Mad Dog into Avatar

Hauptman is based of theDire Wolf and could be a fine addition, imo.

[Will9761]

Battlemaster56, on 22 January 2025 - 07:18 PM, said:

Hauptman is based of theDire Wolf and could be a fine addition, imo.

Personally, I wouldn't mind see the Hauptmann in game, but because the mech is visually different from the Dire Wolf, The Cauldron would never accept it since they would have to make new artwork for it.

[pbiggz]

Will9761, on 22 January 2025 - 08:07 PM, said:

Personally, I wouldn't mind see the Hauptmann in game, but because the mech is visually different from the Dire Wolf, The Cauldron would never accept it since they would have to make new artwork for it.

I dont think its the Cauldron's call. Artwork comes from PGI.

[Gas Guzzler]

While I would love the Sunder and Hauptmann, I don’t see a lot of value added for PGI at this point, considering the MW5 line is likely to get Clan centric DLC for some time. Yeah they could show up on the OpFor but if it’s not a player controlled mech there isn’t much double-dipping value until it turns back around into an IS centered game.

I do think that the Black Hawk KU has made it clear that IS omnis can be implemented into the game and be quite solid. So that was a huge win and I will hope for some more of them this year, I just expect they will be the ones that require very little to no modeling.

For now though, Kingfisher/Turkina should be prime targets. Fingers crossed anyway.