195 replies to this topic

[Marius Evander]

Monkey Lover, on 01 April 2017 - 01:27 PM, said:

I would support removing group Q if they do 1v1 2v2 8v8 and 12v12 comp q. 12 v12 games might be really hard to get but they could always go-to cw.

I think 1v1 and 8v8 would be enough since 12v12 is FW/CW or solo queue QP. to justify the removal of 12v12 Group QP

Davegt27, on 01 April 2017 - 04:03 PM, said:

Could you imagine going full potato tournament

How do you stop people smurfing pretending to be potatoes?

[MischiefSC]

Quicksilver Kalasa, on 01 April 2017 - 01:32 PM, said:

Some maps are still tradey, but there is a definite slight towards push drop decs. Even if it weren't cSPLs, it would be SRMs, LPL/ML rushes.


A comp queue won't ever be that split, which is why the new ranked mode will be 8v8 only.

In another thread where someone was arguing that LRMs were just as good or better than direct fire in comp play Div A/B "on the right maps used by the right players" I went through and watched most of last seasons MRBC matches.

It's a huge difference now between the top handful and just about everyone else. It used to seem like matches were very snipe heavy, a few kills up and push all across the board. There still were matches like that but a lot of the big Div A names were fast and brutal. Especially the light drops - most under 3 minutes. Even the heavy drops were often only 4-6 minutes and half of that was positioning.

Honestly? A lot more fun to watch.

[justcallme A S H]

Quicksilver Kalasa, on 01 April 2017 - 09:19 AM, said:

I think you meant KDK-3s/MAD-IICs/NGRs/HBK-IICs/HMNs/ACHs
Chances are the duplicates will be Night Gyrs considering how close in performance HBK-IICs and Huntsman are and considering how powerful both the KDK-3 and MAD-IIC are.

Yep, the too. With Nova's in the first brawler drop for good measure.

[Johnny Z]

MechaBattler, on 01 April 2017 - 04:17 PM, said:

Why can't we have a ForumWarrior roundtable?

They already tried that.

[Nightmare1]

I wasn't able to watch and, frankly, don't really have the time to do so. Does anyone know if a Good Samaritan posted Cliff's Notes of it somewhere?

[Quicksilver Aberration]

Ultimax, on 01 April 2017 - 04:23 PM, said:

This is one of my bigger concerns for a competitive mode.

Luckily conquest isn't near as bad as domination, sure some sides play differently in conquest, but they aren't as lopsided. Domination has some serious positioning issues that need ironing out before I really consider it acceptable for comp play.

[Mcgral18]

Quicksilver Kalasa, on 01 April 2017 - 07:14 PM, said:

Luckily conquest isn't near as bad as domination, sure some sides play differently in conquest, but they aren't as lopsided. Domination has some serious positioning issues that need ironing out before I really consider it acceptable for comp play.

I found that Alpine change pretty funny


They didn't change the imbalance at all, just shifted it entirely from one team to the other.

[Ultimax]

Quicksilver Kalasa, on 01 April 2017 - 07:14 PM, said:

Luckily conquest isn't near as bad as domination, sure some sides play differently in conquest, but they aren't as lopsided. Domination has some serious positioning issues that need ironing out before I really consider it acceptable for comp play.

Agree on conquest, I still find a few maps to give adv when the teams are really close in skill - but Domination is definitely the real problem and is basically unusable on many maps for comp play.

[Reza Malin]

Gas Guzzler, on 31 March 2017 - 07:22 AM, said:

Except for when, you know, it isn't. Like after the great PPC nerf of 2014, LPL/ML or cLPL/cERML was the way to go on both sides. It really hasn't always been the meta, its just that right as Clans were getting great PPFLD mechs like the KDK, they nerfed lasers (specifically the IS laser boats that were complained about) as well as some of the dakka mechs that the IS had such as the Mauler MX90 and the Black Widow.

Well if you want to drag up the entire weapon log of MWO since beta, then ok yes it hasn't. For example, you mention ERML which i presume you mean when clans first launched and they were heinously OP, before clans got nerfed into oblivion. You really count that period for any kind of reflection on balancing or meta?

Also, do you change every context of a comment to suit some smartass reply?

I meant recently, and assumed that went without saying. So, to clarify to save any further obtuse context assumption, i am talking in the past year, PPFLD has been king for the more top tier players that know how to employ them.

Ill say again, recently, as in what is prevalent in recent times, weeks, months, up to a year, not 3 years ago or when clans first launched.

Yes i am sure your brain is racing now for another smartass reply telling me some examples of top tier players not using PPFLD and of course there are some niche examples. Generally though, PPC/gauss/IS A/C is a safe bet in far more matches than anything else, and reduces TTK more than any other weapon type is capable of unless you are shooting at morons.

[Mystere]

slide, on 29 March 2017 - 06:01 PM, said:

Won't be attending, won't be listening later and really don't care about the competitive scene anyway.

Whilst I applaud PGI for doing something with the community I really wish they would stop diluting their already limited time and energy and putting it into improving aspects of the game that 95% of the community can actually be involved with.

Maps
Modes
Balance (overall not to bad but will always need work)
Fixing FP (the so called end game content) into something that everyone can play.
Adding/fixing the above will get more people spending more money than the elite few that have the skills/time/money can ever hope to spend.

If you want to help the elite few, great go ahead, but don't do it at the expense of the rest of the player base who simply wont care. (me included)

Can PGI just dispense with this "competitive" nonsense and delusion and just give us something that is deservedly "A BattleTech Game"?

Is that really too difficult? <smh>

BLOOD WOLF, on 29 March 2017 - 06:19 PM, said:

Guys this is about comp scence improvement ...

Which 95%+ of the player base probably do not give a flying **** about.

Edited by Mystere, 02 April 2017 - 03:52 AM.

[Mystere]

Wil McCullough, on 29 March 2017 - 08:41 PM, said:

sensitive people should not run companies.

Or, much much worse, countries with enough nuclear weapons to wipe out humanity several times over. <shrugs>

[Mystere]

TLBFestus, on 30 March 2017 - 08:18 AM, said:

As to the side discussion about how it doesn't matter "how" things are said rather than what is said, this is typical BS commentary from people on the internet who talk a tough game from behind a keyboard but would never do it face to face.

Yeah, I'd love to see these "tough guys" talk like that in front of heavily-armed mujahideen fighters.

[Marius Romanis]

Nightmare1, on 01 April 2017 - 06:23 PM, said:

I wasn't able to watch and, frankly, don't really have the time to do so. Does anyone know if a Good Samaritan posted Cliff's Notes of it somewhere?

Ive seen it linked in 3 threads

[Mystere]

MechaBattler, on 01 April 2017 - 04:17 PM, said:

Why can't we have a ForumWarrior roundtable?

Sure, as long your post count determines the weight of your opinion.

[Nightmare1]

CadoAzazel, on 02 April 2017 - 04:25 AM, said:

Ive seen it linked in 3 threads

I've been canvassing some of the threads but haven't found the link yet, lol. Thanks though, I'll keep looking!

[Bud Crue]

https://mwomercs.com...nd-table-notes/

[Nightmare1]

Bud Crue, on 02 April 2017 - 07:31 AM, said:

https://mwomercs.com...nd-table-notes/

Thanks Bud!

[Revis Volek]

Mystere, on 02 April 2017 - 03:49 AM, said:

Which 95%+ of the player base probably do not give a flying **** about.

Yup, no one cares....


https://mrbcleague.com/signups

[Nightmare1]

Revis Volek, on 02 April 2017 - 07:36 AM, said:

Yup, no one cares....


https://mrbcleague.com/signups

I'm already signed!

Btw, do you know if that MechWarrior Arena site is for real? It looks dead...

[Revis Volek]

Nightmare1, on 02 April 2017 - 07:39 AM, said:

I'm already signed!

Btw, do you know if that MechWarrior Arena site is for real? It looks dead...

They havent done much with Arena for a year or so now, id love to see it make a come back.


I like me some 1v1.