Can We Stop The P2W Pods? Cbill Alternatives
#1
Posted 04 April 2017 - 04:07 PM
Hero Mechs should not let you have an outright superior robot.
It's not an old thing. Muromets was among the best Phract for a time, the glory of the DakkaGeddon eventually outshone by the Poptarts
Poptarts, of which the Dragon Slayer reined, beside the likes of the HGN733c, and the 3D
Cbill contenders, which were okay
There were plenty of Bad heroes, as well, but this thread isn't about that. It might even help them in the future (by not needing to keep them weak)
With previous Clam Hero wave, the Cute Fox got some nice pods
Double the amount of E hardpoints
All High mounted.
It is an outrageous improvement over the typical Cute Fox, but you do sacrifice quirks
But, it's only a Cute Fox, why do we care?
Because it sets precedent.
Cue Clam Hero Wave II, and we get multiple robots with outright improvements.
MOAR GUNs in the same pods
New Guns where no guns used to be
Myth Lynx is going from a joke, to a Light with typical Light mech firepower
Ice Fridge is getting his Jesus Box at no sacrifice (1 DHS, down to 15, and ST ECM)
SadCat ST missile doubled (I mean, Meh, but still outright improvement for $$)
Mr Gargles, torso mounted weaponry is a $$ exclusive feature
I don't like that
I don't like that one bit. Mostly because I don't plan on giving PGI any money because of decisions like these, so my robots are now inferior by design
It doesn't have to be that way.
Give Premium Chassis' a Cbill alternative. Keep them delayed, if you must (like the usual GrabDeals), but release the Chassis for Cbills, without the bonuses
Buy the Grabdeals for MC if you want the Cbill boost
Grab them for $$ if you want them early
But if you wait, let us buy them for Cbills
As a result, Premium Chassis's don't necessarily have to be as weak as some tend to be, they can risk being viable more often.
#2
Posted 04 April 2017 - 04:12 PM
Just enough to keep the available builds the same between pay and not, pay should decrease grind and give you fancy paints or whatever, not be the best chassis.
Edited by Dakota1000, 04 April 2017 - 04:13 PM.
#3
Posted 04 April 2017 - 04:15 PM
Mcgral18, on 04 April 2017 - 04:07 PM, said:
Hero Mechs should not let you have an outright superior robot.
It's not an old thing. Muromets was among the best Phract for a time, the glory of the DakkaGeddon eventually outshone by the Poptarts
Poptarts, of which the Dragon Slayer reined, beside the likes of the HGN733c, and the 3D
Cbill contenders, which were okay
There were plenty of Bad heroes, as well, but this thread isn't about that. It might even help them in the future (by not needing to keep them weak)
With previous Clam Hero wave, the Cute Fox got some nice pods
Double the amount of E hardpoints
All High mounted.
It is an outrageous improvement over the typical Cute Fox, but you do sacrifice quirks
But, it's only a Cute Fox, why do we care?
Because it sets precedent.
Cue Clam Hero Wave II, and we get multiple robots with outright improvements.
MOAR GUNs in the same pods
New Guns where no guns used to be
Myth Lynx is going from a joke, to a Light with typical Light mech firepower
Ice Fridge is getting his Jesus Box at no sacrifice (1 DHS, down to 15, and ST ECM)
SadCat ST missile doubled (I mean, Meh, but still outright improvement for $$)
Mr Gargles, torso mounted weaponry is a $$ exclusive feature
I don't like that
I don't like that one bit. Mostly because I don't plan on giving PGI any money because of decisions like these, so my robots are now inferior by design
It doesn't have to be that way.
Give Premium Chassis' a Cbill alternative. Keep them delayed, if you must (like the usual GrabDeals), but release the Chassis for Cbills, without the bonuses
Buy the Grabdeals for MC if you want the Cbill boost
Grab them for $$ if you want them early
But if you wait, let us buy them for Cbills
As a result, Premium Chassis's don't necessarily have to be as weak as some tend to be, they can risk being viable more often.
It wouldn't be so bad if the pods are also available via MC at least. At least that way, it's much more accessible than what it is right now, but still requires a bit of real money at the same time. (Or event bonuses)
#4
Posted 04 April 2017 - 04:15 PM
#5
Posted 04 April 2017 - 04:18 PM
That message will likely have better resonance.
#6
Posted 04 April 2017 - 04:23 PM
Jesus box ain't so Jesus anymore.
I don't think one extra missile on the SHC is going to change anything.
The only truly creepy ones are the EBJ and HBR. That's some serious payload potential.
#7
Posted 04 April 2017 - 04:28 PM
Make the pods "interesting" and you face such complaints. Make them blah and only few will buy them.
#8
Posted 04 April 2017 - 04:32 PM
Yeonne Greene, on 04 April 2017 - 04:23 PM, said:
Considering how strong pushes are in certain scenarios, the Gargles and Sexecutioners are also a bit worry some since they could do Splat Timby builds with more tankiness.
#9
Posted 04 April 2017 - 04:32 PM
Hit the Deck, on 04 April 2017 - 04:28 PM, said:
Make the pods "interesting" and you face such complaints. Make them blah and only few will buy them.
Or even think about doing them and you get complaints like this topic. Or don't do them and get complaints that there are a lack of Omni heroes.
#10
Posted 04 April 2017 - 04:35 PM
Athom83, on 04 April 2017 - 04:32 PM, said:
This topic will remove this complaint
And also the other one, because they won't need to be bad.
#11
Posted 04 April 2017 - 04:36 PM
Athom83, on 04 April 2017 - 04:32 PM, said:
Yes.
Actually people had already known that they will bring problem. Should the pods be TimeWall'ed? I'm not sure if PGI would like that idea.
#13
Posted 04 April 2017 - 04:41 PM
#14
Posted 04 April 2017 - 04:41 PM
#15
Posted 04 April 2017 - 04:44 PM
#17
Posted 04 April 2017 - 04:51 PM
Yes. There is an element of pay to win. They are catering to those who spend money on the game, to continue to make money. Its a buisness. IF skill tree happens why would folks buy a mechpack? Why do you think KDK-3 didnt get fixed and nerfed until it was out for a bit. It was pay to win. The Scorch is close too. And several others. The game, and its buisnss model are changing. We all have to ask ourselves do we still enjoy the game? If so put up with it. If not, quit yer bichin and just uninstall and go.
#18
Posted 04 April 2017 - 04:56 PM
#19
Posted 04 April 2017 - 04:58 PM
#20
Posted 04 April 2017 - 04:58 PM
Basically F2P is MWOs god end of story until the servers close down. Devs gotta eat, wanna buy a mechpack?
Edited by Ghogiel, 04 April 2017 - 04:59 PM.
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