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#41 Trademark

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Posted 04 May 2017 - 05:16 PM

Hidie Ho!™ PGI --- Please allow MERC Contracts to be reset at the start of the event!!

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Posted 04 May 2017 - 05:21 PM

PGI can you please allow MERC contracts to be reset for the event so we can pick our faction.

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Posted 04 May 2017 - 05:27 PM

I actually chose a faction for the first time for this event... let's see if I actually get a chance to play any matches :-)

Cheers!

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Posted 04 May 2017 - 05:33 PM

View PostProsperity Park, on 04 May 2017 - 05:27 PM, said:

I actually chose a faction for the first time for this event... let's see if I actually get a chance to play any matches :-)

Cheers!


Seyla!


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Posted 04 May 2017 - 06:00 PM

View PostPeiper, on 04 May 2017 - 04:59 PM, said:


A question we have been asking since the beginning is WHY should we pledge loyalty to anyone with the system the way it is. My unit is loyal to our friends, not to lore (partly because lore means crap in this game, not because we don't love lore!)
When I say I want to go wolf for this event, it is because we have a great time playing with the Clan Wolf International guys for events like this.

I could care less about the C-bills - right now it's -40% payouts with wolves for us mercs to sign on with wolves. That matters when CW doesn't. That doesn't matter to me now, because we have a REASON to want to go wolf. The actual reason the Devil Dogs are not loyalists is because we want to play with ALL of our mechs in CW. We have to hop contracts in order to get to play with all of our mechs some of the time. When I created the unit, I picked Wolf's Dragoons because of their access to clan tech, and because we could play a traditional clan unit in the Inner Sphere. We can't do that in MWO because of the artificial segregation of battlemechs. Remember, Luthien was defended by 3 regiments of Wolfs Dragoons and Kell Hounds equipped with clan tech, and that was BEFORE Tukayyid. We HAD a lore reason to be Wolf's Dragoons, but PGI stripped that from us logistically.

Now, as far as the overall community warfare, what we do in CW is absolutely minimal. There are no supply lines to raid, no mech factories to loot, no black market to play, no salvage, no reason or benefit to attacking or defending any particular planet. If we knew we were having a truly positive effect for Steiner or Wolf or the Wolf's Dragoons by being loyalist in CW, we'd consider it. But the reasons for being loyalist are much less appealing than being free to switch sides to play our favorite mechs at least some of the time. Variety, what little there is in MWO, is important.


I understand that. But is it fair to punish my little, non-competitive but lore-friendly and community-friendly unit because of what has happened in the past? I have a lot of veteran but dormant players in my unit, and some new guys who would like to know what it is to be part of something greater, some good teamwork and communication. I have to galvanize them to get them out for a week of mechin'. This is my chance. But in order to do it, I have to stack the cards right for my unit. I have to plan to help put them into a place where we'll both have fun and a chance to make a difference. I also would like to reforge old friendships with the guys at Clan Wolf who we've very much enjoyed dropping with before. I can't do that with our damned contract being with Liao.


I see a trend going here. all leads go back to pgi.

I couldnt care less about the lore.

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But is it fair to punish my little, non-competitive but lore-friendly and community-friendly unit because of what has happened in the past?

Life is not fair.
it is the contract and loyalty system that has been the issue from the start and if there is a handicap involved for both IS and CLAN loyalists then why should it bother me that there are issues for mercs as well?
Deal with it.

didnt contract mean its binding til it expires? In what world would we live in when everyone would break contract just to get whatever they want to? is it anarchy that you want? Oo

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Posted 04 May 2017 - 06:04 PM

View PostDaemon04, on 04 May 2017 - 06:00 PM, said:


I see a trend going here. all leads go back to pgi.

I couldnt care less about the lore.

Life is not fair.


PGI is the maker and manager of a persistent online game. It is THEIR JOB to make it fair. It's a GAME.

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Posted 04 May 2017 - 06:05 PM

I agree with Peiper, as this is the last battle, for the lore I think changing people to the place they want to be is the right thing to do. We were Wolf for the first two, and we (Clans) won, so I would like to keep the role going. :)

Very much appreciate if you switch the Devil Dogs to Clan Wolf a bit earlier than our contract allows.

Thank you in advance.

Semper Fi

#48 Marius Romanis

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Posted 04 May 2017 - 06:06 PM

TO EVERYONE ASKING FOR
CONTRACT RESET


Sorry but IT IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN for multiple reasons.
1. YOU WERE WARNED AT THE END OF THE LAST EVENT ON THESE ACTUAL FORUMS !!!! (NOT JUST ON TWITTER(WHERE WE WERE ALSO WARNED)) SO THEIRS NO EXCUSE NOT TO BE THE FACTION YOUR LOYALTIES LIE WITH, HELL I'VE BEEN SITTING IN MY LOYALTY FACTION SINCE THE CIVIL WAR STEINER/DAVION IMAGES EXPECTING A FACTION PLAY RELATED CIVIL WAR EVENT. FORUM WARNING OF THIS EVENT SHOWN BELOW.

View PostMatt Newman, on 25 April 2017 - 12:15 PM, said:

We hope everyone enjoys the Consolation Prize as things return to normal in the Quick Play Queue.
Our next event will target Faction play....
Rally your Units and Lock in your contracts...


2. PGI Probably dont have the in game capability to reset it.
3. Theres a lot of decent units IS side atm and PGI wants to keep them there at least for the start of the event.
4. Im sure theres more but sorry your stuck where you are until your contract expires.

View PostBig Tin Man, on 04 May 2017 - 02:13 PM, said:

and yeah, holy personal rewards batman!


^what he said.

View PostPeiper, on 04 May 2017 - 02:29 PM, said:


We are only Liao for the Cbills currently,

PLEASE change us to Wolf. PLEASE.


Not sure if im laughing smirking or a tear is rolling down my cheek in sympathy. Your Liao Cbill bonus greed hath proved costly, at least you will be able to go wolf for the last 3-4 days.

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View PostCommander A9, on 04 May 2017 - 02:48 PM, said:

So, since you're not resetting contracts, that means mercenary groups who prefer playing on Clans, and who want to be on Clans for this event, are stuck staying with IS if they happened to pick a contract the day before to join the IS.

Which means they're stuck working for the opposing side for the first week of the competition until they can switch midway.

Real nice of you, PGI-NOT!

Do the right thing and reset the contracts, would you?


How you were not aware of the upcoming A9 and did not prepare for it with the amount you frequent the forums, you should have been sitting in your preferred faction since the Steiner/davion civil war images went up. It's no ones fault people are in the wrong faction except their greed. We were warned plenty.

View Post- Pestilence -, on 04 May 2017 - 03:22 PM, said:

I'am a deserter right now will it still count ?


Yes deserter will still count for whatever faction you are deserting until the desertion ends, just your cbill income due to the penatly is going to SUCK, because a FEW (5%?) people who play a LOT could mech bay tour lvl 6 in every faction for 20 odd mech bays PGI decided to punish all the more casual and more likely to part with real money players by making it harder to mech bay tour (on one account)... one of pgi's "smarter moments".... I sympathise your predicament, hopefully you will be able to play a lot in the 2nd weekend when your desertion will be over.

View PostDaemon04, on 04 May 2017 - 04:34 PM, said:

I agree there had to be an announcement but maybe this was done in order to prevent mercs to choose and seal the fate of this event in advance?


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View PostPeiper, on 04 May 2017 - 04:59 PM, said:




Hope I have explained why they cant help you. Enjoy helping IS, theres a lot of good units on TS you can drop with. Least you can Wolf the last few days.




I Wish the Faction Warhorns were based on some metric of activity of EVERY member in the unit, Since I am my entire unit dont think I can get one, Any wolves want to join - Single Minded Zeal - for the event see if we can get 3rd on the contribution board behind CWI and that other one i forget the name of ? =p =)

Edited by Tina Benoit, 05 May 2017 - 09:59 AM.


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Posted 04 May 2017 - 06:18 PM

Also im really scared, and excited that I might have to apologies for the recent meme image i made. well at least to Matt and Tina, dunno about the rest =p

Holy PGI actually posting on the forums batman.

Edited by CadoAzazel, 04 May 2017 - 06:19 PM.


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Posted 04 May 2017 - 06:20 PM

i fail to understand the people who are IS but are saying for personal reasons they cant be caught dead in an is faction. like..... why the heck are you mercs and not loyalists if it means that much to you?

Edited by naterist, 04 May 2017 - 06:26 PM.


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Posted 04 May 2017 - 06:38 PM

also, guess what? pgi will never switch you. they wouldnt even switch so from merc back to loyalist when they made an error with that. what makes you think theyll help you when they didnt help the biggest factionplay unit in the game?

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Posted 04 May 2017 - 06:41 PM

clans will win again. ALL the good mec units will jump to clan if they are not with them already. I don't think their is a good loyal faction unit out their.

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Posted 04 May 2017 - 06:41 PM

View PostCadoAzazel, on 04 May 2017 - 06:06 PM, said:

Yes deserter will still count for whatever faction you are deserting until the desertion ends, just your cbill income due to the penatly is going to SUCK, because a FEW (5%?) people who play a LOT could mech bay tour lvl 6 in every faction for 20 odd mech bays PGI decided to punish all the more casual and more likely to part with real money players by making it harder to mech bay tour (on one account)... one of pgi's "smarter moments".... I sympathise your predicament, hopefully you will be able to play a lot in the 2nd weekend when your desertion will be over.

I don't really care about the cbills from match, event rewards will be enough :).
Thanks.

Edited by - Pestilence -, 04 May 2017 - 06:44 PM.


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Posted 04 May 2017 - 07:00 PM

I think contracts should be locked from now until the end of the event.

Having the ability to switch sides half way through makes a mockery of the event result.

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Posted 04 May 2017 - 07:39 PM

If you are a Mercenary, then you fight for contracts. You don't care what side of the conflict you are on.

Loyalists do.

Why would a Mercenary want to jump to a new faction just for this event? If they had a Faction/Lore loyalty, they would be Loyalists.

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Posted 04 May 2017 - 07:45 PM

View PostAnHell86, on 04 May 2017 - 06:50 PM, said:

Dude, that seal clubbing looks brutal! RIP defenseless seal.


I tried to find the most PG 13 image I could and the fact that it looks like the seal is arguing with/yelling at the "Professional" struck my sadistic funny bone of potato's arguing with hardcore unit players on these forums, im still chuckling at that image 20 mins later. That isnt the "meme image" I might want to apologise for, thats in another tukayyid thread.

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Posted 04 May 2017 - 07:58 PM

Holy rewards batman! Now those are some rewards to write home about. Looking forward to dusting off FP for the last time in the Module era! :)

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Posted 04 May 2017 - 08:02 PM

So this whole event sparked my interest into FP, i normally play QP due i've noone to play with etc etc.

So now to my question... This event seem to start at a reeealy bad time for us EU ppl.
If my time converter isnt wrong it'll be:
Converted Time Sundsvall, Sweden

02:00CEST
lördag den 6 maj 2017
Change Your Location
Current time: fre, 05:59:46

So it'll be 02.00? Middle of the night when all of us in EU goes to sleep??? Sad panda if that's the case.
At saturday aswell, in our case. So sure i'll be able to stay up, but we'll loose out on a day if not more due not alot of us can play sunday-monday, which it'll require.

Edited by xSleeZyx, 04 May 2017 - 08:04 PM.


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Posted 04 May 2017 - 08:07 PM

I haven't played FW in months but 3 days ago I decided to get more mechbays, so I broke my Ghost Bear Loyalty. Does this mean I won't be eligible for the first 3 days of the event? I have 4 days left as deserter.

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Posted 04 May 2017 - 08:52 PM

View PostxSleeZyx, on 04 May 2017 - 08:02 PM, said:

So it'll be 02.00? Middle of the night when all of us in EU goes to sleep??? Sad panda if that's the case.
At saturday aswell, in our case. So sure i'll be able to stay up, but we'll loose out on a day if not more due not alot of us can play sunday-monday, which it'll require.


Starts Saturday morning for oceania, we were hoping they would move it to start in our friday evening, but they went the other way, Our last day your sunday/monday is a Monday for us, I think Matt is trying out differnt start times. Please go the OTHER way 12 hours earleir than the current start time for this event Matt for the next event thanks.

View PostMoomtazz, on 04 May 2017 - 08:07 PM, said:

I haven't played FW in months but 3 days ago I decided to get more mechbays, so I broke my Ghost Bear Loyalty. Does this mean I won't be eligible for the first 3 days of the event? I have 4 days left as deserter.

Jesus christ that question was already asked AND ANSWERED on THAT FREEKIN PAGE.

Edited by CadoAzazel, 04 May 2017 - 08:52 PM.






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