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[kapusta11]

I dunno, only Blackjack Omnimech looks decent. Sunder has one ton less pod space than 75 ton heavy with LFE300 and endo steel chassis.

They are all just mediocre to be honest.

[Metus regem]

kapusta11, on 11 August 2017 - 11:58 AM, said:

I dunno, only Blackjack Omnimech looks decent. Sunder has one ton less pod space than 75 ton heavy with LFE300 and endo steel chassis.

They are all just mediocre to be honest.

That's the whole deal with Generation 1 IS Omni's, they are average at best, terribad at worst.

[Valdarion Silarius]

Metus regem, on 11 August 2017 - 12:06 PM, said:

That's the whole deal with Generation 1 IS Omni's, they are average at best, terribad at worst.

IMO, I want to see the rest of the unseen IS mechs make it to the game like the Crusader and the Longbow before we get the IS Omni's. Not that I have anything against IS Omnimechs nor the people that want them in MW:O. I just hope they realize that unless PGI fixes the durability of IS XL engines, their nostalgia is gonna die off into frustration when they can't enjoy their mechs unless they get durability quirks. We all know how reliance on quirks goes when it comes to the balance overlords.

[Andi Nagasia]

Arnold The Governator, on 11 August 2017 - 12:16 PM, said:

IMO, I want to see the rest of the unseen IS mechs make it to the game like the Crusader and the Longbow before we get the IS Omni's. Not that I have anything against IS Omnimechs nor the people that want them in MW:O. I just hope they realize that unless PGI fixes the durability of IS XL engines, their nostalgia is gonna die off into frustration when they can't enjoy their mechs unless they get durability quirks. We all know how reliance on quirks goes when it comes to the balance overlords.

im hoping that IS OmniMechs come sooner rather than later,

A )
i love my Raptors and Nova-KUs, and i think they would be amazing in MWO, or atleast offer something cool,
B )
Omni Construction need some love, & i cant ask for any OmniMech buff with out being called a Clan Supremacist,

Edited by Andi Nagasia, 11 August 2017 - 12:54 PM.

[Shifty McSwift]

Yeah Omnimechs aren't perfect that's for sure.

It would be nice to have the quirks attached to each omnipod, or adding the quirks to the CT omnipod and allowing us to switch out the variants of that, which would also allow at least a little flexibility in engine ranges, if some of the omnimech variants had differing engine sizes.

[Mole]

That Arctic Fox is one of the ugliest damn things I've ever seen come out of battletech. I'm really interested to see how Alex would tackle that and make it look cool.

[Alex Morgaine]

Technically Massive heat related quirks could be levied on shs omnis...

[Andi Nagasia]

Alex Morgaine, on 11 August 2017 - 03:06 PM, said:

Technically Massive heat related quirks could be levied on shs omnis...

but whats the Difference if they just Give all SHS OmniMechs +25%Heat Displacement
they could just unlock Heatsinks for OmniMechs, allowing some IS and Clan OmniMechs freedom,

[Valdarion Silarius]

Andi Nagasia, on 11 August 2017 - 03:59 PM, said:

but whats the Difference if they just Give all SHS OmniMechs +25%Heat Displacement
they could just unlock Heatsinks for OmniMechs, allowing some IS and Clan OmniMechs freedom,

I don't like that idea. If we start taking away features that make omnimechs strictly omnimechs, then might as well call them converted battlemechs. Goes with the same territory with omnimechs having interchangeable engines. Sure it is possible in battletech, but without features like repair costs and maintenance in the game there would be no repercussions if people started to convert their omnimechs into battlemechs.

[TheArisen]

Raptor
Men Shen
Black Hawk Ku
Templar

[Alex Morgaine]

With c3 being removed from the upcoming thanatos, does that add any useful omni variants or chassis?

[Bombast]

Alex Morgaine, on 11 August 2017 - 04:56 PM, said:

With c3 being removed from the upcoming thanatos, does that add any useful omni variants or chassis?

No. While many of the Omnimechs from this era has C3 variants (Certainty the DC ones) there are no C3 locked Omnimechs in this time period. And most of the C3 variants suffer from hard point shortages one would expect from a mech that's sunk so much weight into a computer.

Edited by Bombast, 11 August 2017 - 05:04 PM.

[TheArisen]

Btw, it seems some ppl think the Templar is 90t, it's actually 85t which means 1t JJ, etc

[Metus regem]

Bombast, on 11 August 2017 - 05:03 PM, said:

No. While many of the Omnimechs from this era has C3 variants (Certainty the DC ones) there are no C3 locked Omnimechs in this time period. And most of the C3 variants suffer from hard point shortages one would expect from a mech that's sunk so much weight into a computer.

Owens is C3 Slaves hardwired.....

[Bombast]

Metus regem, on 11 August 2017 - 06:29 PM, said:

Owens is C3 Slaves hardwired.....

Whoops.

[FupDup]

Metus regem, on 11 August 2017 - 06:29 PM, said:

Owens is C3 Slaves hardwired.....

The IS Battle Cobra has Improved C3 hardwired.

[evilauthor]

For IS Omnis with locked single heat sinks, can they be given heat sink quirks (or even extremely buffed Cool Run skills) to make them competitive with mechs using DHS? Like +40% heat dissipation.

[Andi Nagasia]

Arnold The Governator, on 11 August 2017 - 04:50 PM, said:

I don't like that idea. If we start taking away features that make omnimechs strictly omnimechs, then might as well call them converted battlemechs. Goes with the same territory with omnimechs having interchangeable engines. Sure it is possible in battletech, but without features like repair costs and maintenance in the game there would be no repercussions if people started to convert their omnimechs into battlemechs.

unlocking Locked Equipment would be what i would want,
Unlock the DHSs in the NVA STs, and the WHK LT, Unlock the CAP on the MLX,
Unlock the MLs in the Avatar, Unlock the 2 ST Case in the Strider(i think it was the Strider)

unless someone can give me a really good reason for IS and Clan OmniMechs to have Locked Equipment?

evilauthor, on 11 August 2017 - 07:00 PM, said:

For IS Omnis with locked single heat sinks, can they be given heat sink quirks (or even extremely buffed Cool Run skills) to make them competitive with mechs using DHS? Like +40% heat dissipation.

+40% would make SHSs have 0.17Displation, better than DHSs(1.5Displation),
if they had +25% they would become 1Crit DHSs, so they should probably only get only +20%,

Edited by Andi Nagasia, 11 August 2017 - 07:43 PM.

[evilauthor]

Andi Nagasia, on 11 August 2017 - 07:42 PM, said:

if they had +25% they would become 1Crit DHSs, so they should probably only get only +20%,

Well that's the idea. These mechs have locked SHS but need DHS to be competitive with mechs that use DHS. So why not a quirk that effectively turns SHS into DHS?

[Valdarion Silarius]

Andi Nagasia, on 11 August 2017 - 07:42 PM, said:

unless someone can give me a really good reason for IS and Clan OmniMechs to have Locked Equipment?

Uh, because they wouldn't be Omnimechs anymore?

The only way I would be ok with unlocked equipment for omnimechs is if there was a severe punishment if players choose so. Like for example a big disclaimer warning the player if he/she chose to unlock one of of those locked omnimechs for customization, there would be no changeable equipment for that chasis after the player did modifications to that mech. So whatever things that you did to that mech would be permanently locked unless you bought another version of that mech.

Even so, that is a far stretch since all of these newly "customized omnimechs" would throw off the balance even more and obsolete even more mechs. Thus more nerfs to weapon systems, equiptment, and other things that I don't want nerfed by this idea.