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[Alexander of Macedon]

With the MLX and arctic cheater you don't even need to shoot legs. Blow the arms off, they're about as fragile as the cosmetic spikes we're getting.

[Novakaine]

I just loaded up my old rusty Kintaro and much fun was had hunting for pelts.
Gonna get a hunter killer squad going t'nite

[Admiral-Dan]

Judah Malganis, on 23 August 2017 - 12:37 PM, said:

I wonder how many of these complaints are coming from players who are accustomed to shaving tons of armor off their legs and rears so they can squeeze in a bigger gun or extra ammo and are now finding that to be a liability. There's supposed to be a tradeoff there, but they're not used to feelings its pinch.

This!

[Alex Morgaine]

Put on more back Armor?

[Smites]

Alex Morgaine, on 23 August 2017 - 01:01 PM, said:

Put on more back Armor?

But then the 6 MG spider will just eat through my front!

The ONLY way to fix this is to put Ghost Heat on MGs!

[Jay Leon Hart]

Smites, on 23 August 2017 - 01:12 PM, said:

But then the 6 MG spider will just eat through my front!

The ONLY way to fix this is to put Ghost Heat on MGs!

I agree! GH on 13 or more MGs!

[Iron Heel]

Smites, on 23 August 2017 - 01:12 PM, said:

But then the 6 MG spider will just eat through my front!

Yes, that light is taking your picture.
Just smile and say cheese.
Don't move now, you'll ruin the photo.

[LordNothing]

El Bandito, on 23 August 2017 - 08:11 AM, said:

Lights need all the help they can get. And fun.

thats not a lynx, thats a caracal.

[LordNothing]

they are really great in capping modes, you cap for the first 5 minutes of the match, by that time targets are soft. hitting r finds a lot finds broken things to kill. against a mech with armor. f no. its kind of a situational support role. its really good in its element and useless most of the match. protect your armor and the bullets just kind of bounce off.

i think the lmg is the best of the bunch given its range. the hmg needs to be more of an armor buster though and less of a crit cannon.

[InfinityBall]

Mole, on 23 August 2017 - 12:49 PM, said:

My only problem with this strange new MG meta is that one of these damn things can stare ay my back for half a second and crit out every god damn weapon on my 'mech before I can react whether I know they are there or not. I was in my Griffin last night and was practically fresh except for my arms which I had been shielding with. Stupid little Mist Lynx gets behind me with 8 LMGs at 200m and sprays off my back, and I suddenly lost two medium lasers, my AMS, 4 SRM4s, and EVEN MY JUMP JETS. I didn't even KNOW jump jets were critable but after that happened nothing happened anymore when I hit my jumpjet button. I spent the rest of the match trying to be a weaponless meat shield for my team because there was simply nothing else for me to do.

Who knew that there might be problems after you intentionally reduced your back armor to zero?

[Mole]

InfinityBall, on 23 August 2017 - 02:01 PM, said:

Who knew that there might be problems after you intentionally reduced your back armor to zero?

My back armor is and always has been at 10, bro.

[Stf Sgt Marblez]

Heh, nerf... why nerf something thats already useless for about half the game? When I drop in my cheetah, I'm usually an ecm torch for easily the first 5 minutes or so. Then eventually after my teams been firing line/trading/what have you i can finally go in and maybe get something done.....at like the 8 minute mark.

Why nerf something that just became viable? I get that the crits might be a bit much but how to dial that back is beyond me.

Check those empty red diamonds with the r button, and if you see lmgs, get out of range and shoot them with oh idk.....any other weapon?

Tis not rocket science my fellow...fellows....and occasional gals, just my 2 cents

o7

[InfinityBall]

Mole, on 23 August 2017 - 02:08 PM, said:

My back armor is and always has been at 10, bro.

Look, either you're lying about that, or you're lying about what happened. It's theoretically impossible for fewer than what, 30 LMGs to strip 10 points of armor in half a second, let alone do any damage to internals.

[Brain Cancer]

This entire thread started with "balance by potato".

PGI balances by potato. If it easily kills spuds, you can watch the LMG become the LaMeGun by September's balance update.

[Kroete]

InfinityBall, on 23 August 2017 - 02:16 PM, said:

Look, either you're lying about that, or you're lying about what happened. It's theoretically impossible for fewer than what, 30 LMGs to strip 10 points of armor in half a second, let alone do any damage to internals.

2 seconds for 8lmgs,
8x0,7 = 5,6dps
x2 = 11,2 damage

4 C-ER-ML also do 5,6 dps, but with 5.04 heat/second.

The damage is not the problem, but that dps without heat is a problem.

Edited by Kroete, 23 August 2017 - 03:00 PM.

[Y E O N N E]

Kroete, on 23 August 2017 - 02:58 PM, said:

The damage is not the problem, but that dps without heat is a problem.

No it isn't. The time it takes to stay exposed and holding that trigger down gets you devastated by more potent CQC builds long before the heat even becomes a deciding factor.

[Judah Malganis]

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No it isn't. The time it takes to stay exposed and holding that trigger down gets you devastated by more potent CQC builds long before the heat even becomes a deciding factor

This. There are builds that can keep 10 dps by firing a 50 pt alpha and retiring for 5 seconds, minimizing exposure. MGs have zero burst and you have to stay on the target the whole time to allow the compounded dmg to be useful.

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2 seconds for 8lmgs,
8x0,7 = 5,6dps
x2 = 11,2 damage

4 C-ER-ML also do 5,6 dps, but with 5.04 heat/second.

Yeah but he's claiming that he had 2 10 pt side torso rear armor sections stripped bare and all weapons destroyed in both sections as well as one arm in half a second.

[poltergoost]

I can't believe people are still talking about 'DPS' for lights

Constant DPS weapons like MGs need long facetime. Facetime in lights, against a competent enemy, means death.

You whiners do know that you are allowed to shoot back against Lynxes and Cheetahs, right? It is allowed, try it!

Edited by poltergoost, 23 August 2017 - 03:17 PM.

[Stf Sgt Marblez]

poltergoost, on 23 August 2017 - 03:16 PM, said:

I can't believe people are still talking about 'DPS' for lights

Constant DPS weapons like MGs need long facetime. Facetime in lights, against a competent enemy, means death.

You whiners do know that you are allowed to shoot back against Lynxes and Cheetahs, right? It is allowed, try it!

^^this

Wait till you have a clean shot on the lil' bugger, and take it, srms, ppc's, uac/ac and lbx lead the target, lrms and atms/streaks maintain lock and fire (ranges applicable), everything else is hitscan as far as I know. Ez game is ez, and qp is hell, recognize this faster and profit

[Xmith]

poltergoost, on 23 August 2017 - 03:16 PM, said:

I can't believe people are still talking about 'DPS' for lights

Constant DPS weapons like MGs need long facetime. Facetime in lights, against a competent enemy, means death.

You whiners do know that you are allowed to shoot back against Lynxes and Cheetahs, right? It is allowed, try it!

There is no facetime. It's more like circle of death. A good light pilot is not going to facetime MGs. Assaults have a difficult time when a light is performing the circle of death with MGs. It's even tough for the heavy pilot too. It's like, oh sh_t when ever I see a light with MGs heading my way. It's always gonna be trouble.