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#1 Sachiii

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Posted 23 September 2017 - 08:10 AM

it takes years to get into top tier lol. im so close to tier 2!! anyone else in the high tiers?
though i am looking to join a team for tourneys. invite would be much appreciated!!

#2 justcallme A S H

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Posted 23 September 2017 - 08:55 AM

If you can't make it into T1 within 4 months of playing.

1. Stop using LRMs.
2. Learn to torso twist.
3. Learn to have some semblance of basic map awareness.
4. Do not bring "bracket builds" that cover all ranges. They are dumb and, useless.

I went from full potato to semi competent inside of 3-4 months. The finer details took a lot longer but T1 comes easily if you can manage the 4 points above.

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Posted 23 September 2017 - 09:15 AM

Tiers don't really mean much from what I've seen...

#4 Marquis De Lafayette

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Posted 23 September 2017 - 09:22 AM

View PostCommander A9, on 23 September 2017 - 09:15 AM, said:

Tiers don't really mean much from what I've seen...


Yes...advancing to higher tiers doesn't really mean much....however (assuming being active in QP) the ability to still be in tier 3...several years in ....well...that might mean something.

#5 Tarl Cabot

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Posted 23 September 2017 - 09:39 AM

First, wrong forum. This is for Faction Play where tiers are not taken into consideration for match making.

Not sure when you started but for QP, you have scoring for Season 11, 12 and 15. You also have an impressive kill/death ratio but your average match score /shrugs.... What is missing from the QP scoreboard that Faction Scoreboard does show is KMDD (kill, most damage done).

Average score.. do consider that the PSR is more of an experience bar. Take a look at mine. I have been playing since beta. I shouldnt be and I am not Tier 1 material but here I am. Notice also my W/L and K/D is about even but have a higher match scores. The season 15 scoring has you only in assaults but lower match score.

You should need to review how you are playing. Are you playing in the Solo queue or Group queue? Are you using direct fire weapons or indirect (LRMS)? Are you staying more often in the rear then playing clean up for the kill count, or more in the middle of the pack? Are you a passive or aggressive player? Are you communicating with the team?

Simply too many variables but many here would post, don't rush it. You likely could do better but do not be in a rush to get to Tier 1 Posted Image FYI I have been max T1 for 6ish seasons or so, have good match scores but breaking even or so on W/L and K/D, though at the end of the game I check the KMDD numbers, which again, is not reflected in QP scoreboard. Again, I do not consider myself Tier 1 material but I do tend to play enough, both QP and FP. And what works in QP usually does not work in FP, vis versa.

edit - corrections. I would be flunking my English class with some of my posts...

Edited by Tarl Cabot, 24 September 2017 - 09:39 AM.


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Posted 23 September 2017 - 01:49 PM

View Postjustcallme A S H, on 23 September 2017 - 08:55 AM, said:

If you can't make it into T1 within 4 months of playing.

1. Stop using LRMs.
2. Learn to torso twist.
3. Learn to have some semblance of basic map awareness.
4. Do not bring "bracket builds" that cover all ranges. They are dumb and, useless.

I went from full potato to semi competent inside of 3-4 months. The finer details took a lot longer but T1 comes easily if you can manage the 4 points above.
inb4lock but this. If you don't play a lot of solo QP it will take a while.

#7 justcallme A S H

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Posted 23 September 2017 - 04:19 PM

Solo or group doesn't matter. You'll climb if you play well. One isn't faster than the other at all.

#8 Rick T Dangerous

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Posted 23 September 2017 - 05:11 PM

View PostSachiii, on 23 September 2017 - 08:10 AM, said:

it takes years to get into top tier lol. im so close to tier 2!! anyone else in the high tiers?
though i am looking to join a team for tourneys. invite would be much appreciated!!


View PostTarl Cabot, on 23 September 2017 - 09:39 AM, said:

You should need to review how you are playing.


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That's it!

MWO is a game for teamplay. Even in solo QP. With every tier you have to adjust the way you play. And I guess teamplay is even more important when you want to play in comp teams.

#9 MischiefSC

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Posted 23 September 2017 - 05:22 PM

View Postjustcallme A S H, on 23 September 2017 - 04:19 PM, said:

Solo or group doesn't matter. You'll climb if you play well. One isn't faster than the other at all.


I did my 2k AC20 damage in no time. Had a couple 800 damage matches in my old Boomjag in QP. No way at all I could have done that in group Q without lucking out. Couldn't do it in FW either, though that's because the Boomjag doesn't to damage fast enough to keep up with my teammates.

Group que is significantly tougher than solo queue. Solo queue always has potaoes. Group queue not always. The steep bar of understanding how to make a group and hit launch and being someone that other people would intentionally associate with knocks the bulk of MWO population out.

#10 Sachiii

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Posted 23 September 2017 - 05:48 PM

thank you all! ive been playing this game since beta but have been on and off at times. ive won most of my matches however, sometime use lrm boat for fun but has a lot of klills behind other mechs. i have various different builds with ballistics and missiles, none with lasers as of yet. almost every matches i get a few kills but it would suck if half of my team has already died. faction takes awhile to get a team going :( hence why i play QP. in a few weeks time hopefully my stats is more differ than this current one. my match score is average as ive only focused on killing other mechs and not do objectives lol. assault mechs are my specialty

Edited by Sachiii, 23 September 2017 - 05:54 PM.


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Posted 24 September 2017 - 11:08 PM

I was once in a match with a T3 pilot who had very good KDR but oddly low match score. At the end of the match (it was domination), he was in an assault on one end of the map, and the enemy's two remaining lights had fled to the opposite end of the map to preserve KDR. Mr. Assault nonetheless immediately called out their grid square. I went with my team's other light to that grid square, and lo and behold, there were the enemy lights, thousands of meters away from Mr. Assault and completely out of his line of sight.

This was recorded on the other light pilot's Twitch stream, by the way.

True story.

#12 Grus

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Posted 27 September 2017 - 12:41 PM

Whow I've never seen a Pink name tag.


Edited by Grus, 27 September 2017 - 12:42 PM.


#13 Xannatharr

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Posted 27 September 2017 - 01:06 PM

Dat tag tho Posted Image

#14 Marquis De Lafayette

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Posted 27 September 2017 - 01:57 PM

View PostGrus, on 27 September 2017 - 12:41 PM, said:

Whow I've never seen a Pink name tag.


Yep...
Pink= banned

In this case for cheating ...oh the irony of his post...

#15 justcallme A S H

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Posted 27 September 2017 - 02:25 PM

Interesting. Weka was dropping with us all weekend, his in game performance would suggest he knows how to play the game but not that of cheating... Not even close. Given I was out damaging/killing while blind drunk.

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Posted 27 September 2017 - 03:52 PM

View Postjustcallme A S H, on 27 September 2017 - 02:25 PM, said:

Interesting. Weka was dropping with us all weekend, his in game performance would suggest he knows how to play the game but not that of cheating... Not even close. Given I was out damaging/killing while blind drunk.


We went through this before, with Tony Pepperoni, that was a pretty new account though.

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Posted 27 September 2017 - 04:30 PM

View Postjustcallme A S H, on 27 September 2017 - 02:25 PM, said:

Interesting. Weka was dropping with us all weekend, his in game performance would suggest he knows how to play the game but not that of cheating... Not even close. Given I was out damaging/killing while blind drunk.


Sometimes bads cheat to get mediocre. Sometimes you get people who cheat when they think someone else is cheating and as such think they're justified.

Is what it is, bads gonna bad. Nothing of value was lost.

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Posted 27 September 2017 - 04:38 PM

id probibly have bubbled up faster if i wasnt trying to master every mech in the game, especially the bad ones.

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Posted 30 September 2017 - 12:44 PM

I know a few people got zero'd put on cbills due to the ACH buy /sell exploit. So maybe that's what it is?

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Posted 30 September 2017 - 08:29 PM

View PostMischiefSC, on 27 September 2017 - 04:30 PM, said:

Sometimes you get people who cheat when they think someone else is cheating and as such think they're justified.


Cheating requires no justification, it's done in secret.

People cheat because it helps them. I adjust ingame mouse sensitivity to about .4 because it helps me.





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