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[mogs01gt]

I dont think I should be in tier 1

[Composite Armour]

What counts as "actually" tier 1?

[Mole]

What is the purpose of this thread, exactly? Honestly I don't really see any players shaming eachother over tiers because everyone knows PSR is a farce. I do, however, see players shaming eachother over leaderboard stats.

Edited by Mole, 05 October 2017 - 07:23 AM.

[Bombast]

Mole, on 05 October 2017 - 07:22 AM, said:

I do, however, see players shaming eachother over leaderboard stats.

If I were to guess, that was the purpose of this thread.

[InfinityBall]

MechWarrior5152251, on 05 October 2017 - 06:33 AM, said:

LOL, the OP has less than a 1 W/L and less than a 1 K/D? Tier 1 does not seem as elite as I was led to believe....

How do you think that could even work mathematically, if everyone in T1 had ratios over 1 when they're frequently playing each other?

[Magnus Santini]

(not tier 1). I thought from the OP that this was a thread of QP conversation starters. Some people work really hard on those and have a rehearsed team delivery system. Which is more cooperation than in the rest of the 15 minutes. So I will throw in mine, "where do you guys want to fight?"

[H I A S]

InfinityBall, on 05 October 2017 - 07:37 AM, said:

How do you think that could even work mathematically, if everyone in T1 had ratios over 1 when they're frequently playing each other?

Since T1 was matched against T1-T3 at the beginning and later down to T5, obviously as a T1 your MS and KD should be much higher, even if you are not good at winning games.
But no, it's only a grind and most players dont become better over Time.

Edited by H I A S, 05 October 2017 - 07:54 AM.

[Steve Pryde]

MechWarrior5152251, on 05 October 2017 - 06:33 AM, said:

LOL, the OP has less than a 1 W/L and less than a 1 K/D? Tier 1 does not seem as elite as I was led to believe....

Elite? Even i'm in tier 1. So tier 1 is pretty much worthless.

[Bombast]

Steve Pryde, on 05 October 2017 - 07:45 AM, said:

Elite? Even i'm in tier 1. So tier 1 is pretty much worthless.

You're in the top 5000 on the Jarl's List, and I'm told that puts you in the 'Good Player' Category.

So congrats! You're where you belong!

[Akhri Mala]

I'm Tier 1 through XP

I'm Tier 4 in terms of actual ability.

[Electron Junkie]

I am a horrible, horrible tier 1 potato...

[Bombast]

Electron Junkie, on 05 October 2017 - 08:12 AM, said:

I am a horrible, horrible tier 1 potato...

Is it considered 'Naming and Shaming' if we point out how good other players are when they insist they're bad?

[DONALD KERENSKY TRUMP]

I missed my early tier 5 days, those were the fun times

[dario03]

You think T1 is your ally? You merely adopted the Tier1, I was born in it, molded by it. I didn't see a noob until I was already a Mechwarrior and by then it was nothing but lurming!

What do I win??? Nothing? Ok....I'll see myself out...

[DAYLEET]

Bombast, on 05 October 2017 - 06:32 AM, said:

I remember when the 'New' MM was turned on, and that was my first and only impression of change - Matches suddenly got a whole lot more talkative when we went T1.

Unfortunately, calling/planning/complaining wise, most should talk less, and there's obviously no 'Controlling Hot Mic' requirement for T1.

I was T2 when the tiering got implemented and there was a drastic change in how much worse the people played. Much more shy and static and few proactive guys. Heavies always in the back row leeching damage and kills letting the rest of the team do most of the work. If the other team makes the mistake of being as campy its good. But otherwise it meant i was watching my team getting overrun as soon as the opfor moved up because we left them all the choices and opportunities to do what they needed to do to win. Two map became cancer because people stopped at a grid. On one side it always meant a loss. I saw no change from T2 to T1.

Katrina Steiner, on 05 October 2017 - 09:43 AM, said:

Borderline T1/2 when i'm not drinking...T5 when I am. But who am I kidding, i'm always drinking.

Keep it at 2 drinks and you should be doing better, i know i do lol. Much more zen when piloting a light and less likely to rush into uncertain death 20seconds into a match.

Edited by DAYLEET, 05 October 2017 - 09:58 AM.

[JediPanther]

I'm t3 because I'm awesome running non meta mechs like the panthers,stealth raven,spider 5v and I like to use most of my mechs that are out guned,surrounded and have is xls.

[Katrina Steiner]

Borderline T1/2 when i'm not drinking...T5 when I am. But who am I kidding, i'm always drinking.

[Tier5 Kerensky]

Trissila, on 05 October 2017 - 06:40 AM, said:

T1 is utterly meaningless. It is purely a matter of time for all but the most inept of players.

This is so wrong.

With my tier 4 account and one single mech I get often 1k damage. Many times the enemy team lies dead with only one few of my team dead. Even recently I got my first accusation of cheating with that account, when I killed fairly quickly his Hellbringer.


You and everyone else look for individual players and their single scores at each game, while you should understand tiers work on averages. That tiers separate players with "soft" sliding borders. Their biggest influence is regulating the average skill of whole teams.

Average tier 1 team is wastly superior by skill to average tier 4 team.

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In solo queue, an individual player rarely has a profound effect on the team's winning or losing.

Which means the tiers somewhat work keeping better players fighting each other. If they would fight anyone at random, they would win much more the game they are in.

[Mole]

Teer Kerensky, on 05 October 2017 - 11:46 AM, said:

Average tier 1 team is wastly superior by skill to average tier 4 team.

Now I want to do an experiment where teams made up of nothing but random tier 4 players fight teams of nothing but random tier 1 players until we have a decent sample size and see what the win/loss ratio looks like.

[8Ball-]

Tier 1 but actually belong in 3 or 4. Wish they would reset tiers every so often so I could think I was actually improving as I went up in tiers in stead of knowing that once I made it to the top of 1 that I still sucked and was stuck playing mostly better players all the time. They need to rebalance the metrics so that it's not the relentless move upward even if you suck.

Tater