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[TWIAFU]

OZHomerOZ, on 08 November 2017 - 03:16 AM, said:

Keep your dying game mode out of quick play...
We don't need it or you want to kill QP as well.
In Quik play real mech pilots play solo vs solo and group vs group, go seal club else wear.

No need to, plenty of pug clubbing in QP.

https://mwomercs.com...ing-common-now/

[General Solo]

TWIAFU, on 10 November 2017 - 04:25 AM, said:

No need to, plenty of pug clubbing in QP.

https://mwomercs.com...ing-common-now/

So u change seal clubbing to pug clubbing and think no one will notice.
Read Title, Fail
There is no clubbing in QP only fail.

Edited by OZHomerOZ, 10 November 2017 - 06:59 AM.

[MischiefSC]

OZHomerOZ, on 10 November 2017 - 06:56 AM, said:

So u change seal clubbing to pug clubbing and think no one will notice.
Read Title, Fail
There is no clubbing in QP only fail.

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The reality of what you just said probably went so far over your head you didn't hear the whiff, even though it was powered by 4 turboprop jet engines.

Help me understand, please, where seals stop and pugs playing badly begins.

[General Solo]

OK, I give you a hint.
A seal is a solo pilot facing a group
A pug is not this. thou one can be a pug and a seal at the same time, they are not mutually exclusive.
As for Pugs, well google can give you a better explanation than I can.

Edited by OZHomerOZ, 10 November 2017 - 05:42 PM.

[General Solo]

MischiefSC, on 10 November 2017 - 01:52 PM, said:

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Help me understand, please, where seals stop and pugs playing badly begins.

Yo add so much to the discussion.... Carry on.

[ANOM O MECH]

OZHomerOZ, on 08 November 2017 - 03:16 AM, said:

Keep your dying game mode out of quick play...
We don't need it or you want to kill QP as well.
In Quik play real mech pilots play solo vs solo and group vs group, go seal club else wear.

Real mech pilots? Quick play is the lowest form of this game. It is the equivelent of going to the YMCA and playing at lunch time with a bunch of strangers.

Everyone always cries out how this is a team game. Yet, you somehow think that the real pilots are hanging out where there is the least co-ordination, very little understanding or implemtation of map control, high concentration of ridiculous and ineffective builds, and on and on and on.

Stop being silly.

[MischiefSC]

OZHomerOZ, on 10 November 2017 - 05:40 PM, said:

OK, I give you a hint.
A seal is a solo pilot facing a group
A pug is not this. thou one can be a pug and a seal at the same time, they are not mutually exclusive.
As for Pugs, well google can give you a better explanation than I can.

So does a group that's 'seal clubbing' have to be on teamspeak? What if it's only 4 of you, but you all do 2k to 3k damage and lead the 8 pugs you're with into the other pug teams DZ on the first wave? How about when in group queue one side is all 2 and 3man casuals, many of whom didn't take even 1/2 their possible tonnage available, drops vs a 12man in assassins who wipe them 12 to 0?

Seal clubbing happens constantly in QP. Most matches. The only difference, at all, in any way, between all the angst over 'seal clubbing' in FW and what happens in QP and group queue is respawns. If you had respawns in QP and group queue it would play out exactly the same.

People who make bad choices get destroyed consistently by those who don't. People want to pretend that if you just make this one magical tweak and help them hide from whoever beat them last match then suddenly they'll be able to just win more while still doing the same thing. Which doesn't happen.

Winning/losing is no different in FW than in QP or group queue, save that with respawns it's just repeated 4 times in a row in quick succession. That's it. The desire to add a fake moral component to winning and imply that not sucking and actually playing as a team in a team v team game is some sort of haxxx is exactly why bads get crushed. They lose before they drop.

[General Solo]

tker 669, on 10 November 2017 - 11:12 PM, said:

Real mech pilots? Quick play is the lowest form of this game. It is the equivelent of going to the YMCA and playing at lunch time with a bunch of strangers.

Sure for the solo Queue, but then again it is a solo que.
As for the group Queue I see plenty organized teams playing in that, some are even MWOWC level.
If fact they seem to frequent the group que moar than FW or the YMCA.
They tend to be harder to kill than solo seals.
OUTRAGEOUS!

tker 669, on 10 November 2017 - 11:12 PM, said:

Everyone always cries out how this is a team game. Yet, you somehow think that the real pilots are hanging out where there is the least co-ordination, very little understanding or implemtation of map control, high concentration of ridiculous and ineffective builds, and on and on and on.

Well I'm not everyone, THATS PROFILING AND i RESENT IT
and what is these "cries" you speak of?

These MWOWC level teams I see on group queue seem to have plenty co-ordination, understanding or implemtation of map control, high concentration of ridiculous and effective builds, and on and on and on.

tker 669, on 10 November 2017 - 11:12 PM, said:

Stop being silly.

Yo add so much to the discussion.... Carry on.

Edit: And according to the Jarls list your Retired and thus up to date on the happenings of Quick Play.

Edited by OZHomerOZ, 11 November 2017 - 12:56 AM.

[General Solo]

MischiefSC, on 10 November 2017 - 11:35 PM, said:

So does a group that's 'seal clubbing' have to be on teamspeak?

Can you be more patronizing....I want moar!!!!!
Just for giggles, NO im not on teamspeak when KCom is on my team.
So to answer, I guess Teamspeak is irrelevent

MischiefSC, on 10 November 2017 - 11:35 PM, said:

Whole buncha text.............wipe them 12 to 0?

Wipes happen in all game modes. Mostly due to skill imbalance.
The author of this thread thingie, suggests that having a lobby for solo's could reduce the skill imbalance and I support this view. Are you a solo? Just asking.

MischiefSC, on 10 November 2017 - 11:35 PM, said:

Seal clubbing happens constantly in QP. Most matches. The only difference, at all, in any way, between all the angst over 'seal clubbing' in FW and what happens in QP and group queue is respawns. If you had respawns in QP and group queue it would play out exactly the same.

Group Queue don't have solo's, thats a difference. All wipes play similar snowball effect mode Edna.

MischiefSC, on 10 November 2017 - 11:35 PM, said:

People who make bad choices get destroyed consistently by those who don't. People want to pretend that if you just make this one magical tweak and help them hide from whoever beat them last match then suddenly they'll be able to just win more while still doing the same thing. Which doesn't happen.

The sky is blue and water is wet.

MischiefSC, on 10 November 2017 - 11:35 PM, said:

Winning/losing is no different in FW than in QP or group queue, save that with respawns it's just repeated 4 times in a row in quick succession. That's it. The desire to add a fake moral component to winning and imply that not sucking and actually playing as a team in a team v team game is some sort of haxxx is exactly why bads get crushed. They lose before they drop.

If you can crush a team with one mech/wave why would you waste your precious time and another 3 mechs/waves with a game of poor quality.
Unless you like putting the boot in, some do.
Meself would rather find a game of better quality pronto rather than waste my time.

Edited by OZHomerOZ, 11 November 2017 - 01:26 AM.

[MischiefSC]

I've soloed hundreds and hundreds of drops. Since FW started I've probably pugged more than 1/2 my total drops. Of the rest, the great majority was me going into a faction hub and just filling in a slot with another team.

I play my best every match. Win or lose. I expect the other side to do the same. I've come back from a bad first or even second wave to win, I've lost to teams that have done the same. I'm certainly not going to tell everyone who just waited 20 minutes to get a match to take a 75% pay cut for their time and dunk it.

Group or pug is irrelevant. The people who put in more effort will win. The other team gets rolled. No queue changes will affect that.

[UrbanCognito]

Despite all the pro-solo queue/shark tank queue discussion ( and everything in between 'people are cheating if they expect me to fight them' ... lol), aren't we kind of beating a dead horse to death here? PGI have shown they have zero interest in changing anything about Faction Warfare, hell, they cant even be bothered to calculate the correct Faction Population, yet this discussion is going on about adding new queues and expecting PGI to acknowledge that people want to PLAY this end game content they promised so very long ago.

[General Solo]

I'm just here to show my support for the OP's thread and to call out wot I THINK are irrelavent facts and derailments.
Its a Forum after all.
Not a monologue.

And not all solo's are in units
I'm here to support them.

[ANOM O MECH]

OZHomerOZ, on 11 November 2017 - 06:09 PM, said:

I'm just here to show my support for the OP's thread and to call out wot I THINK are irrelavent facts and derailments.
Its a Forum after all.
Not a monologue.

And not all solo's are in units
I'm here to support them.

Trouble I have with that is I am old and I don't think I am following your particular writing style very well.

You are right though that group queue is a separate animal. However in this coversation we were talking about pugs and seals. I don't really know anyone who calls folks grouping up and hitting group quick play pugs. I think perhaps that you and I have very different lexicons.

So I thought you were somehow saying that the real mechs pilots are pugs...which I find absurd that the people putting the least effort in grouping up and playing as a team to be qualified representitives of this game unless you are simply concerned with how well someone can run around and smash into things solo.

Edit: Spelling

Edited by tker 669, 11 November 2017 - 08:57 PM.

[Nightbird]

There's already a faction play lobby for solo players, it's called quick play.

[General Solo]

Well the thread said Faction play lobby for solo's
Didn't see anything about quick play in the tittle.

Maybe they like respawns

Edited by OZHomerOZ, 12 November 2017 - 12:03 AM.

[Jon Gotham]

Strange Love, on 03 November 2017 - 05:44 AM, said:

and not into :
units,groups,team speak or all that other "orginized" things
they are players that just want to play and dont want to be forced joining forces with others
(to try avoiding another drop zone farming by 12 men group)

Why do you play online, multiplayer games again? Seriously, what kind of personality disorder do you have exactly?

[Nightbird]

OZHomerOZ, on 12 November 2017 - 12:02 AM, said:

Well the thread said Faction play lobby for solo's
Didn't see anything about quick play in the tittle.

Maybe they like respawns

Respawns allow you to get farmed, so the only way to never get farmed is to not respawn (These are solo pilots, so coordination with their team is not one of the options)

Edited by Nightbird, 12 November 2017 - 09:44 AM.

[HGAK47]

LordNothing, on 04 November 2017 - 02:45 PM, said:

i think my biggest issue with fp right now is that it is so damn dead most of the time. any features that give me more seals to club more games would be the best thing to hit fp since phase 4.

Just come to QP, im always there as are many other seals ready for a clubbing. Its like were Turkeys voting on christmas coming early!

#SOLO

Edited by HGAK47, 12 November 2017 - 10:43 AM.

[General Solo]

Nightbird, on 12 November 2017 - 09:44 AM, said:

Respawns allow you to get farmed, so the only way to never get farmed is to not respawn https://static.mwomercs.com/forums//public/style_emoticons/default/smile.png (These are solo pilots, so coordination with their team is not one of the options)

Sounds like your saying if all the Seals go to Quick play so they are not farmed thats ok.
And therefore there are no seals in Big Boys Faction warfare because their in Quick Play not getting farmed.

So whats the functional difference then, between not being in Big Boys Faction warfare because their in Quick Play not getting farmed
and not being in Big Boys Faction warfare because their in a Unitless Solo Faction warfare lobby possibly getting farmed by solo unit-less smurfs .

You win either way, the naughty solo unitless pugs are not spoiling your serious FW gameplay.



Problem solved.

Edited by OZHomerOZ, 12 November 2017 - 01:18 PM.

[General Solo]

Most replies have been from guiz in units.
Too bad moar solo's not in units haven't replied as I'm pretty sure they are the intended target audience of this thread.

Without Solo's you can make Faction Warfare Great again.
And build a wall around it.

And the solo's can have their own fun version.

Edited by OZHomerOZ, 12 November 2017 - 01:24 PM.