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[KoalaBrownie]

JC Daxion, on 19 December 2017 - 06:20 PM, said:

Nothing seams to work, UAV, BAP, tag.... Is there no way to counter it?

With bullets

[Tetatae Squawkins]

A patented two step process.

1. If its blue, let them through.

2. If it's not, take the shot.

[evilauthor]

Lightfoot, on 20 December 2017 - 08:38 PM, said:

If it's not Blue, shoot it. You can dumbfire LRMs too.

And hope that the stealth mech isn't on your team. Stealth hides you from your own team as well.

TWIAFU, on 20 December 2017 - 01:51 PM, said:

You don't show on thermal.

I can verify this from personal experience. Was in a brawl in Mining Collective and had thermals on because it's normally the best vision mode for this map. The stealth mech was as black as the background instead of bright white like all the unstealthed mechs, and the only reason I could tell it was there was that I was seeing laser fire come out of a blank spot in my vision.

Of course I shot at it.

[Nameless King]

JC Daxion, on 19 December 2017 - 06:20 PM, said:

Nothing seams to work, UAV, BAP, tag.... Is there no way to counter it?

Use your eyes.

[LowSubmarino]

Nothing you can do.

You need to shut down, exit your mech, then, when standing on top of your mech raise your hands above your head and surrender immediately.

If you're lucky they will only take you prisoner and torture you a bit but you might live to work in a salt mine as a slave. for the rest of your life.

[JediPanther]

1. heat vision
2. did it move? Shoot it.
3. shoot it. Given how many things in this game can not be shot and destroyed by the players mechs at least get shot and go boom.
4.ram it.
5. Stealth generates heat over time. Wait for it to cook itself.
6. Send an op light after it.

[Maddermax]

JediPanther, on 09 August 2018 - 05:16 PM, said:

1. heat vision
2. did it move? Shoot it.
3. shoot it. Given how many things in this game can not be shot and destroyed by the players mechs at least get shot and go boom.
4.ram it.
5. Stealth generates heat over time. Wait for it to cook itself.
6. Send an op light after it.

You don't show up on heat vision when stealthed. Or, rather you do, but as a dark shadow that's harder to see than if you just use the eyeball MK1 to spot it.

[Dragonporn]

Maddermax, on 09 August 2018 - 05:24 PM, said:

You don't show up on heat vision when stealthed. Or, rather you do, but as a dark shadow that's harder to see than if you just use the eyeball MK1 to spot it.

But I don't have this tech, and I'm pretty sure 90% of playerbase doesn't either. What do we do?

[JediPanther]

Dragonporn, on 09 August 2018 - 05:46 PM, said:

But I don't have this tech, and I'm pretty sure 90% of playerbase doesn't either. What do we do?

Most people in this game seem to have a lot of trouble with grey scale and black colors. Bringing back the Predator style heat vision would do wonders.

[DAEDALOS513]

So under stealth, how did this dude lock on and atm me.. almost instantly every time I peaked.. I wasn't narced, I wasn't ppc'd.. my stealth WAS active.. he did have tag but I was under the impression tag doesn't counter stealth.. is this a new hack?

Any insight would be much appreciated.

Edited by DAEDALOS513, 24 January 2019 - 05:59 AM.

[Kinski Orlawisch]

Real Stealth...

https://static3.busi...c7acfb2c1ek.jpg

PGI Stealth...

https://www.airforce...09/prowler1.jpg

[RickySpanish]

DAEDALOS513, on 24 January 2019 - 05:59 AM, said:

So under stealth, how did this dude lock on and atm me.. almost instantly every time I peaked.. I wasn't narced, I wasn't ppc'd.. my stealth WAS active.. he did have tag but I was under the impression tag doesn't counter stealth.. is this a new hack?

Any insight would be much appreciated.

That would be because one does not require a lock to fire one's missiles, unless they are streaks.

[Kroete]

JC Daxion, on 19 December 2017 - 06:20 PM, said:

Nothing seams to work, UAV, BAP, tag.... Is there no way to counter it?

Flamers,
two are often enough to scare them away or makes them turn off their stealth.
I use them on a streak acw and its fun.

Edited by Kroete, 24 January 2019 - 07:46 AM.

[Mighty Spike]

JediPanther, on 19 December 2017 - 06:41 PM, said:

Stealth armor is easy, use thermal or night modes. Walls and rocks do not move. Just shoot it.

yep can confirm that. Thermal works fine because stealthys are mostly running hot, and appear nearly white with thermal, even on Canyon they are white because they are hotter then the surounding enviroment
, easy to see and kill then. Killed some Stealth Fleas that way on canyon and Solaris city. Dont know why some people say it dosnt work, i got every stealthy i killed this way. Next time i make a screenshot from a stealthy in thermal.Normaly it should hide heat signature but i saw them every single time,so dunno?

Edited by Mighty Spike, 24 January 2019 - 08:20 AM.

[TheArisen]

Use the "enemy spotted" on the command wheel.

[Mole]

Why would you need to counter stealth armor? There's only three weapon systems that stealth armor renders useless, and that is ATMs, Streaks, and LRMs. And if all you've got on your 'mech is those three weapon systems then it's honestly a crap build. You can rely upon weapons that require lock as your primary damage all you want but PLEASE don't make it your ONLY source of damage.

[RickySpanish]

Mole, on 24 January 2019 - 08:18 AM, said:

Why would you need to counter stealth armor? There's only three weapon systems that stealth armor renders useless, and that is ATMs, Streaks, and LRMs. And if all you've got on your 'mech is those three weapon systems then it's honestly a crap build. You can rely upon weapons that require lock as your primary damage all you want but PLEASE don't make it your ONLY source of damage.

Clearly you have never been shredded by an ATM boat. See the trick with ATMs is that you use them to shut down an enemy push, and at their effective range who cares about locks? Just lob them at the dummy charging the line head on and watch them barely find the chance to regret their decision.

[Angel of Annihilation]

Use your built in sensors, the good old Mark I Eyeball.

Seriously, if they made it easy to detect a mech using stealth armor, what is the point of it being stealth? Also there are very significant disadvantages to using stealth armor such as the critical slot usage and the fact that you can't dissipate heat while it is active. Because of these disadvantages, I don't have a single mech equipped with it. I am sure with the right build, right mech and right skills for the job it can be used very effectively but for me it just feels like a neet gimmick that has some situational usefulness at best.

[DAEDALOS513]

RickySpanish, on 24 January 2019 - 06:27 AM, said:

That would be because one does not require a lock to fire one's missiles, unless they are streaks.

No he definitely had lock and I got the inc missile warning..

Angel of Annihilation, on 24 January 2019 - 09:07 AM, said:

Use your built in sensors, the good old Mark I Eyeball.

Seriously, if they made it easy to detect a mech using stealth armor, what is the point of it being stealth? Also there are very significant disadvantages to using stealth armor such as the critical slot usage and the fact that you can't dissipate heat while it is active. Because of these disadvantages, I don't have a single mech equipped with it. I am sure with the right build, right mech and right skills for the job it can be used very effectively but for me it just feels like a neet gimmick that has some situational usefulness at best.

I have fun with my 4ml pirate's bane.. ac10, 4sl ghillie.. dual gauss thanatos.. all under stealth.. the latest buff to stealth heat dissipation made several stealth builds more viable .. anybody else have any good stealth builds??

[DAEDALOS513]

Mole, on 24 January 2019 - 08:18 AM, said:

Why would you need to counter stealth armor? There's only three weapon systems that stealth armor renders useless, and that is ATMs, Streaks, and LRMs. And if all you've got on your 'mech is those three weapon systems then it's honestly a crap build. You can rely upon weapons that require lock as your primary damage all you want but PLEASE don't make it your ONLY source of damage.

If you have good positioning and situational awareness skills, you can get away with and do very well just boating lrms, atms or streaks..