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#1 TheArisen

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Posted 12 February 2018 - 03:44 PM

https://m.soundcloud...164-paul-inouye

#2 Gas Guzzler

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Posted 12 February 2018 - 03:47 PM

Still waiting to hear about PPC Gauss...

#3 Bud Crue

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Posted 12 February 2018 - 04:08 PM

7 minutes on "boy Paul is a really busy guy. Did we mention how busy he is? Just be grateful that he could pull himself away from managing solaris and employee reviews to bother with customer engagement." Can't wait for the actual balance discussion. No, really.

We can't keep doing "buff after buff after buff." But Paul, youve, done 7 months of nonstop nerfs? WTF are you buffing repeatedly month after month? What? Also if the most important thing you are trying to achieve is higher TTK, then why the hell do you have strikes as powerful as they are?

"Were open to community input...as long as it fits into our plan."

Well that's just great.

Edited by Bud Crue, 12 February 2018 - 04:33 PM.


#4 The6thMessenger

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Posted 12 February 2018 - 04:14 PM

If there's no RAC buff by Navid A1 there, I'm going to flip out.

EDIT:

16:00 minutes in, it's all about how hard the job is. Power Creep is addressed, but there's barely any yet. Of course i agree, in fact I always questioned the buffs-only approach with the community-driven open-letter.

Edited by The6thMessenger, 12 February 2018 - 04:29 PM.


#5 Brain Cancer

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Posted 12 February 2018 - 04:37 PM

....you actually expected meaningful content here?

I thought this was the "(g)old men yell at (sound)cloud" episode.

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#6 Burke IV

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Posted 12 February 2018 - 04:57 PM

Thx for buying the mech packs all these years. This game isnt call of duty now.

#7 Brain Cancer

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Posted 12 February 2018 - 05:08 PM

Paul: "Explains LRMs cannot be viable in tier 1 because of tier 4 and 5 apocalypse."

I'd like to applaud ironically here.

Edited by Brain Cancer, 12 February 2018 - 05:09 PM.


#8 Samial

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Posted 12 February 2018 - 05:21 PM

Why would they want to increase TTK... That is insane.. that is not even Battletech.. That is why so many mechs have become unused..

No not every weapon is viable..

Edited by Samial, 12 February 2018 - 05:25 PM.


#9 justcallme A S H

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Posted 12 February 2018 - 05:24 PM

So I don't even need to listen?

Is it much of the same-same rhetoric we've heard for the past 12 months...? By that I mean a bunch of stuff they say and do the opposite.

Weapon buffs... lol. Throw some token ballistic velocity into the mix and that suddenly negates the mass nerfing the past 12 months?

Amazing how you could be so out of touch with reality.

Edited by justcallme A S H, 12 February 2018 - 05:25 PM.


#10 Mech The Dane

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Posted 12 February 2018 - 05:36 PM

There will be a response.

#11 Gas Guzzler

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Posted 12 February 2018 - 05:36 PM

View PostSamial, on 12 February 2018 - 05:21 PM, said:

Why would they want to increase TTK... That is insane.. that is not even Battletech.. That is why so many mechs have become unused..

No not every weapon is viable..


Wait what? You know what increasing TTK means?

Which mechs are unused?

Edited by Gas Guzzler, 12 February 2018 - 05:37 PM.


#12 Burke IV

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Posted 12 February 2018 - 05:38 PM

View PostBrain Cancer, on 12 February 2018 - 05:08 PM, said:

Paul: "Explains LRMs cannot be viable in tier 1 because of tier 4 and 5 apocalypse."

I'd like to applaud ironically here.


Top tier players did it. See what you all did. Who ever started the business about LRMs years ago knew it was elitist trolling and now they are balancing the game to it. wow :(

#13 justcallme A S H

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Posted 12 February 2018 - 05:40 PM

Ok so I've just caught up on the CLIFF NOTES FROM REDDIT

I am actually sitting here in disbelief. Legitimate disbelief.

View PostMech The Dane, on 12 February 2018 - 05:36 PM, said:

There will be a response.


Can I join in with a tinnie and a wife beater?

#14 Johnathan Tanner

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Posted 12 February 2018 - 05:42 PM

PODCAST ON BALANCE

LOLZ

#15 FireStoat

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Posted 12 February 2018 - 06:02 PM

I listened to the whole thing. My take away from it was that PGI was mildly resentful that a minority of the player base had a rose tinted glass view of elements that the game once had that they felt was more fun, and that the players must understand that their staff is very busy and relies greatly on actual numbers on paper for game balance.

To which I say... Okay? I guess? Except that the issues that make a game FUN to play seem to be sailing over their heads. I'm going to bump this video because it seemed to do a good job of isolating specific things about the game that felt fun and are noticed because they're no longer there.


Edit - the Balance review portion starts from 16:00 minutes on.

I mention this every so often, but I am REALLY looking forward to playing HBS Battletech now. It will give me a good vacation from this game and maybe sometime next summer something might happen to it to make it more fun. Maybe.

Edited by FireStoat, 12 February 2018 - 06:06 PM.


#16 Samial

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Posted 12 February 2018 - 06:18 PM

View PostGas Guzzler, on 12 February 2018 - 05:36 PM, said:


Wait what? You know what increasing TTK means?

Which mechs are unused?

Time to kill... Its not call of duty he says but we want to kill mechs even faster than they all ready are and there are a plethora of mechs not used because they die so fast, i can list a heap.. Someone of your so called ranking should already know..

I'm not a battletech purist but raising the TTK after its already stupidly high is not fun, not battletech and not needed... ******* esports ruined modern gaming..

#17 cougurt

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Posted 12 February 2018 - 06:22 PM

View PostSamial, on 12 February 2018 - 06:18 PM, said:

Time to kill... Its not call of duty he says but we want to kill mechs even faster than they all ready are and there are a plethora of mechs not used because they die so fast, i can list a heap.. Someone of your so called ranking should already know..

I'm not a battletech purist but raising the TTK after its already stupidly high is not fun, not battletech and not needed... ******* esports ruined modern gaming..

increasing TTK = increasing the amount of time it takes to kill; the opposite of what you think it means.

#18 Promessa

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Posted 12 February 2018 - 06:24 PM

who the heck is telling them we need a longer ttk?

compared to what game is the ttk in mwo even close to short?

I could happily do with a lot less sponge, because right now, there's a lot of tickle fighting going on that isn't very fun

#19 LordNothing

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Posted 12 February 2018 - 06:31 PM

i cant even justify putting an hour into the game all week, not about to sit through an hour long podcast on the subject. waiting on somone to post the highlights. you know all the self contradictions that cause an endless feedback look that consumes developer time and doesnt solve anything. its kind of like trying to move a fridge by pushing it from all four sides.

as for ttk. its fine for weapons like autocannons and mrms and srms and ppcs. then some guy with a 100 point laser alpha one hits you. lasers need to be utterly destroyed or everything else needs to be brought up to their level. balance is done weapon by weapons but it ignores the fact that lasers are often clustered up into big arrays while most heavy weapons tend to be used singularly or in pairs at most. dont balance an ac5 against a medium laser, balance an ac5 against 4 medium lasers.

Edited by LordNothing, 12 February 2018 - 06:38 PM.


#20 Dont LRM me please

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Posted 12 February 2018 - 06:32 PM

TTK is perfect right now. PGI if you're reading, just try not to decrease TTK but don't aim to make it even longer.





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