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[Grus]

MischiefSC, on 22 May 2018 - 05:03 PM, said:

You edgy, edgy *************.

Side note -

Advanced Clan scout troops have identified new Kurita mech design. Image below.

And there's the rule 34...

[MischiefSC]

The Hatamoto-Chi:

Making the Thug more anime since 3042! Senpai will notice you for sure!

[SteamCharts Kerensky]

Lt Blackthorn, on 22 May 2018 - 10:35 PM, said:

Hey. What's going on in here?

Oh.

It's really pretty bizarre to come back and see people still clutching to our material from 2015 like this.

Cultural victory, I guess.

[MischiefSC]

SteamCharts Kerensky, on 23 May 2018 - 10:21 AM, said:

It's really pretty bizarre to come back and see people still clutching to our material from 2015 like this.

Cultural victory, I guess.

No. Just nothing, at all, fun or funny or interesting has happened in 3 years.

Nothing.

Just 1 Bukkit and Long Tom.

The apathy in this community is so thick now it... could block a Ferro fibrous katana.

See what I did there?

[Xannatharr]

Thank you guys! It's been a while since we had anything popcorn-worthy around here!

Edited by Xannatharr, 23 May 2018 - 11:33 AM.

[Natural Predator]

I can confirm that I engaged 12 or them in faction play yesterday twice while solo playing. Once they shake the rust off I think they will be better. Troll level faction play-expert.

[justcallme A S H]

Shake off the rust from the trombones...

48-29, against PUGs... Dear coordinator would be displeased. G0ONs do better.

[ccrider]

justcallme A S H, on 24 May 2018 - 04:45 AM, said:

Shake off the rust from the trombones...

48-29, against PUGs... Dear coordinator would be displeased. G0ONs do better.

Goon trash talk is trash tier. Its not about the end score; in-game banter accounts for at least 75 percent of a teams FP rating.

Edited by ccrider, 24 May 2018 - 07:23 AM.

[Lt Blackthorn]

ccrider, on 24 May 2018 - 06:27 AM, said:

Goon trash talk is trash tier. Its not about the end score; in-game banter accounts for at least 75 percent of a teams FP rating.

We'll be sure to spice it up the next time you spend multiple matches in a row solo-suiciding into our entire team with multiple yolo linebackers. We usually don't bother when people are already making themselves look bad.

[ccrider]

Lt Blackthorn, on 24 May 2018 - 07:54 AM, said:

We'll be sure to spice it up the next time you spend multiple matches in a row solo-suiciding into our entire team with multiple yolo linebackers. We usually don't bother when people are already making themselves look bad.

You're trying. Points for effort. Dear Coordinator requires more of his Samurai though; if you drop 12 against me and 11 lurm randoms, I want to be entertained. Forcing me to 12v1 a wall of assaults is semi-amusing but I'm really forced to type banter and move and shoot alone. Least you guys can do is help out with the banter part; I don't expect you to provide me with more aggressive solo players. Just do better than "Ha haa". Its my small request. Brush up on anime, drop some "benevolence of Dear Coordinator shines on everyone, even dirty turnip farming clan wetdogs", you know, keep me invested while wave upon wave of missles from 800 meters behind me sand blasts buildings.

[Lt Blackthorn]

You know, I think I'm starting to like you. You should swing by our discord some time. The Dragon welcomes all, even soulless, clanner filth.

Edited by Lt Blackthorn, 24 May 2018 - 08:29 AM.

[Composite Armour]

haHAA

[ccrider]

Lt Blackthorn, on 24 May 2018 - 08:28 AM, said:

You know, I think I'm starting to like you. You should swing by our discord some time. The Dragon welcomes all, even soulless, clanner filth.

Now that was pretty good. Do that in-game. I may take you up on your offer so I can yell at Sean when he drops with you instead of us, even though Discord is hipster garbage tech.

Composite Armour, on 24 May 2018 - 08:34 AM, said:

haHAA

Sir, kindly remove yourself from this conversation; this is a 5 star establishment and vagrants are dealt with swiftly and harshly.

[Chef Kerensky]

justcallme A S H, on 24 May 2018 - 04:45 AM, said:

Shake off the rust from the trombones...

48-29, against PUGs... Dear coordinator would be displeased. G0ONs do better.

Nice try, Wright, but KCOM would have done it better, and with class.



(OH NO! OUR FIRST WIN AS A UNIT IS IN JEOPARDY!)

[Kaoba]

Chef Kerensky, on 24 May 2018 - 08:47 AM, said:

Nice try, Wright, but KCOM would have done it better, and with class.



(OH NO! OUR FIRST WIN AS A UNIT IS IN JEOPARDY!)

Well kcom with class.....they gen rush with class these days lol.

[MischiefSC]

WayTooSexy, on 24 May 2018 - 11:54 AM, said:

Well kcom with class.....they gen rush with class these days lol.

So we played 4 matches against a mixed team the other night that I was in. We won 3 on kills, in the 4th we took on objectives. Is that what you're talking about? Not a who's better thing, we were a 12man vs like a 6-8man. They fights were all good fights.

Not trying to name anyone or trash talk but lately we often see teams that will set up way back from the domination circle or their gens on defense or base and just expect their opponents to ignore objectives and go push directly in to a firing line, which is stupid. In either case both teams could do the same thing - go hide in a corner of the map that best suits them and say the other team HAS to come at them. This is why every league setup is played on objectives matches, to avoid that sort of lame behavior.

If someone doesn't effectively defend their objectives they should lose. People certainly try to base cap or gen rush us all the time. On Siege gamemode the defender has the advantage of knowing the enemy has to come in at them and choke points to use, plus turrets. This is offset by them having to defend the gens so they can't just stay in the back of their DZ in a firing line.

We only take objectives in a few cases. 1. The other team isn't/won't defend them. 2. Pat, who is old, is tired and ready for bed, wants to just burn the match and knows the other team falls under #1 as a given rule.

Edited by MischiefSC, 24 May 2018 - 01:35 PM.

[ccrider]

MischiefSC, on 24 May 2018 - 01:34 PM, said:

So we played 4 matches against a mixed team the other night that I was in. We won 3 on kills, in the 4th we took on objectives. Is that what you're talking about? Not a who's better thing, we were a 12man vs like a 6-8man. They fights were all good fights.

Not trying to name anyone or trash talk but lately we often see teams that will set up way back from the domination circle or their gens on defense or base and just expect their opponents to ignore objectives and go push directly in to a firing line, which is stupid. In either case both teams could do the same thing - go hide in a corner of the map that best suits them and say the other team HAS to come at them. This is why every league setup is played on objectives matches, to avoid that sort of lame behavior.

If someone doesn't effectively defend their objectives they should lose. People certainly try to base cap or gen rush us all the time. On Siege gamemode the defender has the advantage of knowing the enemy has to come in at them and choke points to use, plus turrets. This is offset by them having to defend the gens so they can't just stay in the back of their DZ in a firing line.

We only take objectives in a few cases. 1. The other team isn't/won't defend them. 2. Pat, who is old, is tired and ready for bed, wants to just burn the match and knows the other team falls under #1 as a given rule.

it's my fault that this happens; I have a physical need to blow up robots and will charge any position to quiet the voices in my head.

[Kaoba]

MischiefSC, on 24 May 2018 - 01:34 PM, said:

So we played 4 matches against a mixed team the other night that I was in. We won 3 on kills, in the 4th we took on objectives. Is that what you're talking about? Not a who's better thing, we were a 12man vs like a 6-8man. They fights were all good fights.

Not trying to name anyone or trash talk but lately we often see teams that will set up way back from the domination circle or their gens on defense or base and just expect their opponents to ignore objectives and go push directly in to a firing line, which is stupid. In either case both teams could do the same thing - go hide in a corner of the map that best suits them and say the other team HAS to come at them. This is why every league setup is played on objectives matches, to avoid that sort of lame behavior.

If someone doesn't effectively defend their objectives they should lose. People certainly try to base cap or gen rush us all the time. On Siege gamemode the defender has the advantage of knowing the enemy has to come in at them and choke points to use, plus turrets. This is offset by them having to defend the gens so they can't just stay in the back of their DZ in a firing line.

We only take objectives in a few cases. 1. The other team isn't/won't defend them. 2. Pat, who is old, is tired and ready for bed, wants to just burn the match and knows the other team falls under #1 as a given rule.

No, I haven't played against you specifically, but all the matches I played in defense against kcom they tried to gen rush and failed horribly. And im not the only one that can confirm this lul.

[MischiefSC]

WayTooSexy, on 24 May 2018 - 09:26 PM, said:

No, I haven't played against you specifically, but all the matches I played in defense against kcom they tried to gen rush and failed horribly. And im not the only one that can confirm this lul.

We've all had those days.

I haven't been in a drop we lost in a while but it certainly happens. We don't gen rush often so maybe we're just bad at it. If only SWOL was still around. Maybe we could pick up some pointers.

[ANOM O MECH]

MischiefSC, on 24 May 2018 - 01:34 PM, said:

So we played 4 matches against a mixed team the other night that I was in. We won 3 on kills, in the 4th we took on objectives. Is that what you're talking about? Not a who's better thing, we were a 12man vs like a 6-8man. They fights were all good fights.

Not trying to name anyone or trash talk but lately we often see teams that will set up way back from the domination circle or their gens on defense or base and just expect their opponents to ignore objectives and go push directly in to a firing line, which is stupid. In either case both teams could do the same thing - go hide in a corner of the map that best suits them and say the other team HAS to come at them. This is why every league setup is played on objectives matches, to avoid that sort of lame behavior.

If someone doesn't effectively defend their objectives they should lose. People certainly try to base cap or gen rush us all the time. On Siege gamemode the defender has the advantage of knowing the enemy has to come in at them and choke points to use, plus turrets. This is offset by them having to defend the gens so they can't just stay in the back of their DZ in a firing line.

We only take objectives in a few cases. 1. The other team isn't/won't defend them. 2. Pat, who is old, is tired and ready for bed, wants to just burn the match and knows the other team falls under #1 as a given rule.

I played against you guys on Terra Therma assault, in which we lost (you were also in that one for sure because I remember it had been a while since I saw you in CW). There was a gen rush as well on Boreal.

Terra game we had terrible pugs, and myself and a couple others played really poorly. Our communication was off and people did not follow calls. To deal with Linebackers though, you need a good amount of space and height to make sure they are not fresh coming in. The team also needs hard focus on legs because you guys are running and twisting the whole time.

The Linebacker tactic the way you guys do it is strong against IS armor advantage. Waves of them is draining and really tough. Positioning even for experienced players is hard to even get too.

Guess my point is that the tactic puts you in the position that makes it hard, at times to cover the objectives as well. Not so much on that assault where we had the platform overwatch, but other modes like siege and domination. So you saying it is stupid to not cover objectives is kind of insulting if you are talking about skilled folks who know how to play. Especially since in games that I have been in lately, those couple of wins were the first in a while.

There are easy counters too. Four Wolfhounds could have sprinted/snuck on past the Night Gyr's and capped while eight stalled you at platform. Thing is that would not be something you'd want to bring if you happened to run into someone other than Kcom.

So your tactic is strong and can be brought pretty much everywhere. This is why I really would like it if PGI changed it so that you could choose your deck after you see who you are fighting. You played MRBC this season right... part of why I watch is those tactics let's say 228 takes in against SA vs what they do versus someone else as an example.

Same idea on Boreal, we were set up for the 99% of matches on that map. 1G's are pretty terrible against Linebacker gen rushes, but please don't suggest I am a moron somehow for doing so. Cause if I was set up in my Kcom counter deck all of the time, I'd be losing to pugs and bad units a lot. Just a side note, recently I have got folks in my drop to bring Assassins first wave to Alpine which gets off snipe/lurm fest quickly, I just don't do that every time, every map. I do get it though and why you guys do it. Oh and then there is the flak BCMC used to catch for everyone bringing 3 Whammy 6R's and a Cicada 2B everywhere except ranged maps back in the day... so again I get it.

Don't get the wrong idea as well, I think Boreal is cancer. It is boring to defend (if lurms are a viable and dangerous defense....) and imo not balanced to attack. No other map puts you in such peril to open the bloody gate. Gen rushing too doesn't really bother me anymore. Don't care about win/loss when I am pushing a silly 14+ wlr because barely any skilled player are around playing the mode. A good deal of the time running into you guys is about the only time there is any question about the W.

If solely up to me, and a team wants to gen rush I'd let them. Like I said don't care. Literally I would stand aside if they want the win that bad in the dying mode with hardly anyone around worth fighting, have at it. Wouldn't fire a shot even. Am actually trying to get my guys to adopt this as wins and ratio mean nothing anymore. Don't care about tags on planets, especially since I can't field a 12 man of BCMC. At best we will have 5 or 6 of us and rely on friends to fill out the rest.

So what I am really after is interesting matches. Even the multiple Linebacker rushes we've foiled recently has gotten old. It's fast pace and all, but getting and holding a position and shooting legs is not exactly rocket science, it's tough don't get me wrong, but not challenging as far as scope goes. It's also so repetitive doing over and over match after match, wave after wave. Like that last match on Terra, where I played poorly. I wasn't into it. Couldn't motivate myself to get into it or care. Usually after a loss I am pumped to get back out for a rematch, but instead I went and did something else. Now stopping you folks in Anni's and Cyclop's is what I am craving right now. Matches against you guys were much closer to 50/50 wlr last time you guys were IS.

So we're Clan right now and will probably stay that way for a while, especially since right now fights are pretty good if you get Goon and you are a 6 to 8 man. Think some of the Evils are still up for stopping the waves of Linebackers, but not I (I'm content with only losing twice to it or Kcom in recent memory ). I kept hoping I'd run into a situation where you were all in Mad Cat MKII's or a lovely pack of Orion IIC's barrelling towards me, but to no avail.

Please don't read any hate into what I am saying towards you guys. Going and hanging out with some of the Bacon guys opened my eyes a bit to the whole 'don't hate the player, hate the game'. Which I love to hate this game. Love playing it, hate the decisions PGI has made to the only mode I am really interested in. Hate the population level and how it feels like there are only a handful of decent players even around playing it. Hate that if I run in a twelve hoping to meet another good unit, how much agro it causes bad units and the poor pugs we encounter (hey even had a nutjob saying he was going to fight people at mechcon 2018 because of losing ffs....). Hate if I only run six (not all BCMC even) I inevitably get those same poor pugs on my side and end up losing to bad units, who then generally rub it in like the groupie Kcom wanna be unit you guys sometimes drop with did tonight. Just generally hate and am frustrated that the future is pretty bleak considering the life cycle/age of the game and likelihood of meaningful changes correcting all of the gripes being almost guaranteed to be zero. Really don't think that BCMC will even be around that much longer and don't know what else I can even get from this game, and it makes me sad.

What I do know is that while I am still around I will be looking for decent and interesting fights. I won't be switching our contract so we can meet up against you guys as we did before because in spite of being up on wins, it isn't worth it anymore. That'll probably switch when you go back to IS and I am sure some of those I was in that last one against you will be up for thwarting the zerg rushes, so you will have your same old rivalry but I am out.

Edited by tker 669, 25 May 2018 - 01:47 AM.