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[Lawrence Elsa]

denAirwalkerrr, on 12 November 2018 - 07:58 AM, said:

Ye join bacon, one of worst active FP units in game, so their leaders can use you to cap planets and get MCs in their pockets.

If this is true it sure as hell bothers me. Kcom would at least give it to their players when needed for things like Drop Decks or decals to abreviate one's name on the back of the mech. They even let anyone see the coffers, does bacon get the same treatment?

[Syso69]

Bet the thread will be closed in less then 24 hours

[MisterSomaru]

Syso88, on 12 November 2018 - 08:20 AM, said:

Bet the thread will be closed in less then 24 hours

probably.

[MechNexus]

"We think 12 mans are ruining faction play, so join us so we can run some 12 mans"

:thonk:

[MisterSomaru]

MechNexus, on 12 November 2018 - 08:49 AM, said:

"We think 12 mans are ruining faction play, so join us so we can run some 12 mans"

:thonk:

ones that also refuse to actually fight. :biggerthonk:

I've also run against them enough times to know that they can barely do that as well, like, I've seen them attempt to objective rush with lrmboats several times.

[Johnathan Tanner]

Hazeclaw, on 12 November 2018 - 08:02 AM, said:

you can also be used as a shield for heavy cavs ultraviolet, which will be 3 squares behind you plinking away, who does't enjoy that

[Lotspeech]

Honestly, I think all we want out of FP is competitive rivalries. However trolling really hurts that. (whether its obj rushing or 10 man lrms). But its part of the game whether we like it or not and until something can be done to change that We have to realize that No match will ever be and even fight. Each team has it challenges and it is their job to rise above that. So suck it up and figure out how to win.

[November Juliet]

https://youtu.be/uq-v1TTUyhM
To this nonsense.







https://youtu.be/ALBwotPpJiY

[C H E E K I E Z]

Ragnar, honestly that is the most perfect thing you have ever posted, and i honestly cant top that, for once you have bested me and i feel totally fine about it hats off to you sir

[No Skill Rush]

Now I know the potatoes behind the votes for incursion and escort ...

[Alexandra Hekmatyar]

Eisenhorne, on 11 November 2018 - 08:17 PM, said:

I love you too, Oregon. Personally, I don't run around in stacked premades because I am trying to destroy FW... I do it because the quality of teammate you get if you play without a full 12 man is often so bad that it's just pure masochism

I've been a FP masochist since Tanner left Marik.

[Temporary Axis]

The inverted logic and pure level of passive aggressive hurt out of Bacon made this an entertaining read.

You keep gen rushing kids. Remember you asked (and then worked) for the reputation in game you are building for yourself.

07 mechwarrior

[theUgly]

Since this post it is supposed to be fun let me tell you what makes me laugh sometimes .

The thought of me dying and finding some of you in hell right next to me screaming like women .

07

[Wing 0]

Syso88, on 12 November 2018 - 08:20 AM, said:

Bet the thread will be closed in less then 24 hours

Lets hope it does lol. This was a stupid thread to begin with. Poor meat bag got backlashed so hard it was very funny to see with the postings being made against him. Didn't see him or his poor sods last night. Eisen and Nightbird made good posts there and what they said is exactly what i've been doing since Faction Play Phase 1.

If you don't like what teams are doing in Faction Play, then DONT PLAY HERE. very simple. You want to go engage yourself in idiocy, go do it in Quick Play Solo Queue like Sean Lang at NGNG does. He and his guys got murdered by an active 12 man group in Faction Play during phase 3 days and he was looking bad for his viewers on stream. He didn't want to lose that monetization he had going.

[Grus]

"Derogatory statements, negativity and saltiness should be avoided in this thread."

Oh you sweet summer child...

[0regon]

Look guys, it would just be nice if you didn't run around with your stacked teams all of the time. You and everyone else knows how bad it is for Faction Warfare. Players come over from QP to try out FW and get smashed without mercy and go back to QP. Now, it isn't entirely your guys doing, even though I made it out that way. It's in large part due to PGI designing the mode the way they did, and then, basically, abandoning the mode. They even tried to dissolve the mode for Solaris. But I'd say the that heavily stacking the teams is not fun for anyone. Not the guys getting stomped, and probably not even for you guys. So, what options are available to us? Continue on with the current bs?!? Oh yeay!!! No...if you guys are going to continue unabated then YES, I'm going to try to find a damn counter. A better idea would be to split your team into 2 12 men and pick up some regulars to fill in your ranks. That would balance thingss out. But, other then the efforts Mac has put in, it seems like you guys are perfectly content to leave things the way they are. So, you tell me. What would you guys do in my shoes?!?

[Syso69]

0regon, on 12 November 2018 - 06:14 PM, said:

Look guys, it would just be nice if you didn't run around with your stacked teams all of the time. You and everyone else knows how bad it is for Faction Warfare. Players come over from QP to try out FW and get smashed without mercy and go back to QP. Now, it isn't entirely your guys doing, even though I made it out that way. It's in large part due to PGI designing the mode the way they did, and then, basically, abandoning the mode. They even tried to dissolve the mode for Solaris. But I'd say the that heavily stacking the teams is not fun for anyone. Not the guys getting stomped, and probably not even for you guys. So, what options are available to us? Continue on with the current bs?!? Oh yeay!!! No...if you guys are going to continue unabated then YES, I'm going to try to find a damn counter. A better idea would be to split your team into 2 12 men and pick up some regulars to fill in your ranks. That would balance thingss out. But, other then the efforts Mac has put in, it seems like you guys are perfectly content to leave things the way they are. So, you tell me. What would you guys do in my shoes?!?

Let me take a quotation from MWO Wiki for you:
"Recreate the epic confrontation between the Great Houses of the Inner Sphere and the invading Clan forces. Fight against and alongside other players during one of the invasion windows to help your chosen Faction conquer or protect vital worlds. Strike out as a Lone Wolf, or form units with other players and compete to display your unit's tag above the planets you help capture. While the choice to become famous or infamous is yours, both will require skill and teamwork to attain.
FORM A UNIT
The goal of any MechWarrior is to eventually form a Unit and band together with other SKILLED pilots. There is no force in the galaxy able to withstand a well coordinated unit, and their services are sought by powerful Factions throughout the Inner Sphere and beyond. Some units fight in the name of these ruling factions, while others can be bought and sold to the highest bidder. "

So as we see, forming a Unit and banding together with other skilled pilots, is what this mode was, is & will be about, not some gen-rushing/base-shooting. I'm playing mode as it's seen in lore & by devs, & I'm not alone with idea that CW is meant to be played in premade.
Yes it was more fun during 1st & 2nd Tykaiids, with more decent units present back in the days, but the mode is still pretty ok.

Edited by Syso88, 12 November 2018 - 06:50 PM.

[Cato Zilks]

justcallme A S H, on 12 November 2018 - 05:01 AM, said:

I was in a 2-man (with Carl Vickers) with a mate and basically steamrolled your group. Better yet how about I link you to my video where you make an absolute fool of yourself - HERE... Or if you want the super embarrasing part - HERE

"It's like ******* crack up my ****..."
That was a ******* great example.

[K O Z A K]

0regon, on 12 November 2018 - 06:14 PM, said:

Look guys, it would just be nice if you didn't run around with your stacked teams all of the time. You and everyone else knows how bad it is for Faction Warfare. Players come over from QP to try out FW and get smashed without mercy and go back to QP. Now, it isn't entirely your guys doing, even though I made it out that way. It's in large part due to PGI designing the mode the way they did, and then, basically, abandoning the mode. They even tried to dissolve the mode for Solaris. But I'd say the that heavily stacking the teams is not fun for anyone. Not the guys getting stomped, and probably not even for you guys. So, what options are available to us? Continue on with the current bs?!? Oh yeay!!! No...if you guys are going to continue unabated then YES, I'm going to try to find a damn counter. A better idea would be to split your team into 2 12 men and pick up some regulars to fill in your ranks. That would balance thingss out. But, other then the efforts Mac has put in, it seems like you guys are perfectly content to leave things the way they are. So, you tell me. What would you guys do in my shoes?!?

I only have 1 question: why do you objective rush pugs and 2-4 mans + pugs?

[Eisenhorne]

0regon, on 12 November 2018 - 06:14 PM, said:

Look guys, it would just be nice if you didn't run around with your stacked teams all of the time. You and everyone else knows how bad it is for Faction Warfare. Players come over from QP to try out FW and get smashed without mercy and go back to QP. Now, it isn't entirely your guys doing, even though I made it out that way. It's in large part due to PGI designing the mode the way they did, and then, basically, abandoning the mode. They even tried to dissolve the mode for Solaris. But I'd say the that heavily stacking the teams is not fun for anyone. Not the guys getting stomped, and probably not even for you guys. So, what options are available to us? Continue on with the current bs?!? Oh yeay!!! No...if you guys are going to continue unabated then YES, I'm going to try to find a damn counter. A better idea would be to split your team into 2 12 men and pick up some regulars to fill in your ranks. That would balance thingss out. But, other then the efforts Mac has put in, it seems like you guys are perfectly content to leave things the way they are. So, you tell me. What would you guys do in my shoes?!?

I've dropped with DSx, o7, HHoD, BCMC/Evil, MS, and CSPS all at least somewhat recently. In every single drop, the vast majority of our games have been absolutely one-sided stompings. Literally any organized 12 man group will CRUSH a pug group. There is literally no way for these guys to have fun doing solo play. Better players congregating together in the same group then has little impact on the average puggle.... I doubt they can appreciate the difference in being stomped 48-15 or 48-24, as far as they're concerned a stomp is a stomp.

So why bother worrying about stacking's impact on the average player. It doesn't make a difference.

Edited by Eisenhorne, 12 November 2018 - 06:50 PM.