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[LordNothing]

Navid A1, on 18 November 2018 - 07:40 PM, said:

I disagree.

My only goal in a match is to kill every single one on the enemy teams.

The decider in the match would be how fast one can kill the enemy potatoes compared to how fast the enemy is killing your potatoes.

if you have the capability to do better than the potatoes then you are probibly better off committing your skills to a harder target, and leave the potatoes to the potatoes.

[Dee Eight]

Tarl Cabot, on 18 November 2018 - 11:35 AM, said:

W/L, as noted is team cohesion. To better the W/L stats in Solo queue you should strive on becoming a "bard",

What Ho !

Bombast, on 18 November 2018 - 08:08 PM, said:

IDo you ever tire of being on the exact polar opposite of right?

Of course he doesn't. Trolls never do.

[Navid A1]

LordNothing, on 18 November 2018 - 08:14 PM, said:

if you have the capability to do better than the potatoes then you are probibly better off committing your skills to a harder target, and leave the potatoes to the potatoes.

Potatoes are always out of position and taking them out is less challenging and frees up your potatoes to pay attention to what is killing them.

Good players take good defensive positions with good firing angles. Thats the whole point of being a good player. You can't solo a good player with good awareness early in the match that is using cover well. If you try, you're going to pay.
You can however, suppress them by trading with them, which means you and him are going to bleed armor and as a result, the match result will become largely dependent on the rest of the team which are hugely unreliable in general.
I must however say that there are numerous cases where you HAVE TO focus the good players down first in order to save your team and take the win.



I'm personally a light pilot and I almost exclusively play quick play solo. I make sure to take advantage of my mobility and firepower to dismantle the enemy light lance as fast as I can. Either by isolating and engaging them directly, or by luring them into my team's line of fire.
The team can not leave me behind, and therefore my survival is mostly in my own hands and depends on how well I avoid damage and how aware I am about my surroundings, including where the enemy firing line is at any moment.
Therefore, I can carefully decide where to hit, and where to run to.




When I play assault mechs, I can't move as fast and re-positioning will become a challenge. You have to anticipate your team's movements so that you are not left behind. Most of the time its the enemy that is trying to take you out.
You are more dependent on your team for survival. Yet still, using effective cover and knowing defensible positions are a major force multiplier as a slower mech.
However, more dependability on your team generally means that you will have less chance of wining, or surviving if your team decides to fold like toilet paper in the first 2-3 minutes.





In both cases you can see that in general, you can have a higher K/D while still being a major contributor to your team's victory... even when your team nascars and leaves you alone in slower mechs.

Edited by Navid A1, 18 November 2018 - 10:51 PM.

[General Solo]

@OP
I suggest you read my brilliant and easy to follow guide.

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[Vellron2005]

Racerxintegra2k, on 18 November 2018 - 09:25 AM, said:

Can someone more knowledgeable than me let me know what i'm doing wrong ? My W/L is consistently my worst stat. Some seem to think that W/L is the "best" measure of player skill so it irks me that i cant seem to get at least a 1.00

Friendly suggestion - forget about stats. They are meaningless..

Play for fun.

[ShiverMeRivets]

Nightbird, on 18 November 2018 - 11:28 AM, said:

If you want to win in solo quick play, you need high DPS/alpha/both mechs that quickly put down enemy mechs and minimize the damage inflicted back on you or your team. Mechs like that PPC Uziel take too long to kill anything until late in the match. I find that it's normal to get over 6 kills/1000 damage matches when you carry your team to victory in what would normally be a loss.

Hiding in the back with a low DPS sniper build is a sure fire way to get <1 WLR in the end even with a nice kills/match and damage/match average.

Snipers, unless extremely talented and hyperactive are counter-productive to the team.

The mechs that carry the team are almost always either assults or lights. If you want to increase W/L and you are good then play light/assult meta. If you are below average and want to be carried then play medium/heavy and leave the assult/light slots to other players. I am not that good but sometimes I take assult just to prevent that slot from being filled by assult snipers/lurmers.

Alternatively, just forget about W/L and play whatever you want (6MG Mauler?)

[H I A S]

Vellron2005, on 19 November 2018 - 12:17 AM, said:

Friendly suggestion - forget about stats. They are meaningless..

Play for fun.

They are not. Its a PvP and in its very nature competitive.

[justcallme A S H]

ShiverMeRivets, on 19 November 2018 - 01:21 AM, said:

Snipers, unless extremely talented and hyperactive are counter-productive to the team.

The mechs that carry the team are almost always either assults or lights. If you want to increase W/L and you are good then play light/assult meta. If you are below average and want to be carried then play medium/heavy and leave the assult/light slots to other players. I am not that good but sometimes I take assult just to prevent that slot from being filled by assult snipers/lurmers.

Alternatively, just forget about W/L and play whatever you want (6MG Mauler?)

Plenty to debunk there.

• I play mainly Heavy at the moment as Assault's just get left behind due to incessant rotating by the community. I was (prior to the last 3 months) basically Assault only.
  
• Sniping as in, ranged play? I can play @ 700m in a heavy and I assure you I am having 10 fold the impact on the match than 95% of the players I get teamed with.
  
• Given my WLR in just Heavy Mechs this season is higher than when I was in Assaults in previous seasons...

Dunno man, but what you are saying is not the reality.

[Khobai]

H I A S, on 19 November 2018 - 01:30 AM, said:

They are not. Its a PvP and in its very nature competitive.

no lol. just because a game is PVP doesnt mean its competitive. thats like saying farmville is a competitive game because you can play it with friends. And no at the end of the day, stats really dont matter, its not why people play MWO. Because if all you care about are stats theres way better games to play that track stats. People play MWO for the giant robots.

[FRAGTAST1C]

Is there some prize at the end of the year where players get rewarded for their pristine stats? Just humour me 'cause I'm new and so far, from what I've seen on the product pages of the game, I don't think there is.

On the other hand, if there are challenges and unlockable achievements based on actual skill rather than grinding (destroy 1 million billion trillion quadrillion components), then I can understand.

[H I A S]

Khobai, on 19 November 2018 - 01:47 AM, said:

no lol. just because a game is PVP doesnt mean its competitive. thats like saying farmville is a competitive game because you can play it with friends. And no at the end of the day, stats really dont matter, its not why people play MWO. Because if all you care about are stats theres way better games to play that track stats. People play MWO for the giant robots.

Sure, PvP is allways competitive.Farmville isnt PvP. Freaking brown sea.

[Tiewolf]

GeminiWolf, on 18 November 2018 - 07:16 PM, said:

Hmmm how is my rank better if all your stats are better than mine
QUICK PLAY LEADERBOARD
Rank Pilot Name Total Wins Total Losses W/L Ratio Total Kills Total Deaths K/D Ratio Games
3963 GeminiWolf 47 66 0.71 52 88 0.59 113
Played Average Match Score
212

Because he picked W/L ratio on purpose to make his rank look worse then it is. If he would have picked K/D Ratio or match score there would be no story and we would have nothing to talk about.

[Navid A1]

Khobai, on 19 November 2018 - 01:47 AM, said:

no lol. just because a game is PVP doesnt mean its competitive. thats like saying farmville is a competitive game because you can play it with friends. And no at the end of the day, stats really dont matter, its not why people play MWO. Because if all you care about are stats theres way better games to play that track stats. People play MWO for the giant robots.

You having fun in YOUR PvP game translates to You pissing in my face on my side, while I'm working my *** off trying to win a match.

Edited by Navid A1, 19 November 2018 - 02:57 AM.

[justcallme A S H]

Khobai, on 19 November 2018 - 01:47 AM, said:

no lol. just because a game is PVP doesnt mean its competitive. thats like saying farmville is a competitive game because you can play it with friends. And no at the end of the day, stats really dont matter, its not why people play MWO. Because if all you care about are stats theres way better games to play that track stats. People play MWO for the giant robots.

So PvP is meant to be a bunch of people hitting each other with nice feathery pillows so no one gets hurt, loses or wins?

And at the end of a game everyone gets a participation award for, participating?

[General Solo]

If I had to go to War and could take a friend, I would choose the winner friend rather than the killer friend.
Yeah there is killing involved but Wars are meant to be won.

Edit: and killing is only one of the skills required to win consistently in MWO

And MWO is about armored combat which is kinda warlike.

Edited by OZHomerOZ, 19 November 2018 - 03:19 AM.

[Xeno Phalcon]

justcallme A S H, on 19 November 2018 - 02:59 AM, said:

So PvP is meant to be a bunch of people hitting each other with nice feathery pillows so no one gets hurt, loses or wins?

And at the end of a game everyone gets a participation award for, participating?

Navid A1, on 19 November 2018 - 02:56 AM, said:

You having fun in YOUR PvP game translates to You pissing in my face on my side, while I'm working my *** off trying to win a match.

High Five Guy: Good Job!

VR Girl: Begone filthy casual!

[Tiewolf]

H I A S, on 19 November 2018 - 02:42 AM, said:

Sure, PvP is allways competitive.Farmville isnt PvP. Freaking brown sea.

If farmville and score competition oriented games aren`t PvP is debatable but what most of the crystal sea eco chamber only warriors forget is, that there are many different levels and standards of competition. Some like Navid might use every advantage he can bring to prove his surpremacy over potatoes. Others like me can`t use consumables because they need the c-bills, can`t use mics because a baby is sleeping next to him, is tiered of fielding meta only, got less time to practice, got worse hardware, worse ping and so on. The problem is Navid forces his "competitivenes" on players like me who simply can`t affort to compete on that level.

Edited by Tiewolf, 19 November 2018 - 04:51 AM.

[Bombast]

FRAGTAST1C, on 19 November 2018 - 02:35 AM, said:

Is there some prize at the end of the year where players get rewarded for their pristine stats? Just humour me 'cause I'm new and so far, from what I've seen on the product pages of the game, I don't think there is.

Some people just appreciate not sucking.

[Nema Nabojiv]

justcallme A S H, on 19 November 2018 - 01:41 AM, said:

Plenty to debunk there.

• I play mainly Heavy at the moment as Assault's just get left behind due to incessant rotating by the community. I was (prior to the last 3 months) basically Assault only.
  
• Sniping as in, ranged play? I can play @ 700m in a heavy and I assure you I am having 10 fold the impact on the match than 95% of the players I get teamed with.
  
• Given my WLR in just Heavy Mechs this season is higher than when I was in Assaults in previous seasons...

Dunno man, but what you are saying is not the reality.

He's right though.

You are one of the top playes, no wonder your sniping can be effective. Average player trying to play sniper - not so much. They usually dont do enough damage to justify their absence in the main engagement.

[Navid A1]

Tiewolf, on 19 November 2018 - 04:50 AM, said:

If farmville and score competition oriented games aren`t PvP is debatable but what most of the crystal sea eco chamber only warriors forget is, that there are many different levels and standards of competition. Some like Navid might use every advantage he can bring to prove his surpremacy over potatoes. Others like me can`t use consumables because they need the c-bills, can`t use mics because a baby is sleeping next to him, is tiered of fielding meta only, got less time to practice, got worse hardware, worse ping and so on. The problem is Navid forces his "competitivenes" on players like me who simply can`t affort to compete on that level.

I almost always play this game on a laptop.
It sucks.

Having those problems sucks. Yet it does not change the effect you (or the person I was addressing) have on other players' gameplay experience.

I don't have any control on how you play the game. So I expect people to understand that the definition of "fun" is different for others.... something that you conveniently took out of context for god knows what purpose.

Edited by Navid A1, 19 November 2018 - 06:25 AM.