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[jjm1]

There's nascar. Then there's betrayal.

90% of the time its the latter. Using your team as bait to go flank.

When everyone thinks they are special like this you repeatedly have some of the worst matches in gaming history.

[Jman5]

Scenario 1: Two fast, short ranged players see one slow opponent. They close the distance from behind and engage.

Scenario 2: Two fast, short ranged players see four slow opponents heading their way. They close the distance head on and engage.

Now, which scenario seems advantageous to the two fast players? If you can answer this question correctly, you now know why people instinctively NASCAR.

[RickySpanish]

OPs post is the equivalent of explaining why top of the pops is the best music format. "It's gud cuz everyone duz it".

[Uzi Foo]

OP's writeup is brutally honest. If you didn't adapt to the meta it's YOUR FAULT of you have a bad time. Frankly you're more of the problem dragging your team down.

If you don't communicate every one is going to play in a way to try and preserve themselves. I have some amazing counter nascar pushes in my Atlas that just over runs teams, but in order to do that I use communication. I also make sure I go 60+ kph on my Atlas in case I need to rotate. That goes for any assault. If you go 40kph (55 is the borderline) your a detriment to your team. If your team supports that slow assault they will be out flanked and wiped out one at a time.

Edited by Uzi Foo, 14 May 2019 - 07:10 AM.

[CygnusX7]

\m/

[General Solo]

Two Teams Nascar
One team wins
Is that Nascars fault - Same old question

[Prototelis]

It takes two teams to nascar (nascar isn't everyone on your team holding W)
One team always wins
Nascar has a 100% success rate

[Captain Caveman DE]

..and it is dull as f*ck. how anybody can do more than a couple of QP-matches in a row is beyond me.

clearly, mapdesign is to blame. but so are people who repeat the same old stuff, over and over,
and over..
and over³

[thievingmagpi]

yes, because when nascasr is involved, even the winning team loses.

[Mister Glitchdragon]

What can be said about NASCAR that hasn't already? You know what's up. You either go with the flow or you buck. Sometimes either will work, sometimes they won't. Since I only play solo qp, I build for it. I'm always happy to go with another plan, but it is what it is.

My favorite is when the guy in the stupid-slow assault dies and starts screaming about how NASCAR is dumb and "Potato Rotato," how this team sucks and how we've already lost, and we need to stop NASCARing right now, and in general making his own team miserable. During all that I glance up at the score and we're up 4-1, and by the end of the match its a total roll, with his death being the only one.

No, wait! My favorite is the guy who started the match in the lobby by saying, "Whatever we do, DON'T NASCAR!!!" and halfway through the match the same person is yelling "FLANK RIGHT!!! WHY AREN'T THE FAST MOVERS FLANKING RIGHT!?!?"

Then again, I also love it when someone suggests a plan to counter NASCAR. They want to form a line, goes on about "sharing armor" and working as a team, all that, and then everything goes **** up and of course they're the last man standing... way in the back... in an LRM Supernova.

My point being that there are plenty of awful ways to play this game that have nothing to do with NASCAR. It's just how solo qp is right now. It was nice for a little while, with all the big mechs that released and slowed everything down a little. But if last night was any indicator, we're back to small and fast as the order of the day. That means NASCAR.

Put your back against a wall, practice hitting small and fast targets, bring streaks.

There's nothing else for it.

[Mister Glitchdragon]

tollas669, on 14 May 2019 - 08:00 AM, said:

Well if theres 40 million flies Fleas eating [the flimsy rear torso of a bad assault pilot] cuz its gud they cant be wrong right?

FIFY

[VonBruinwald]

ProTip:

If you're in a slow Assault, especially on on HPG-Domination. Wait for the 2nd lap to join the Nascar, if you try to join on the first lap you'll be late to the grid and lapped by the enemies lights before you complete your first.

Learnt this in a STD-60 Urbie...

[Hierarch]

NASCAR is like the E-Honda of Mwo. Thousand hand slaps will when you matched but you’ll never get the fundamentals to play above trash tier.

Also it’s easy to blow off a loss when you disconnect in the first minute and lose your team the game.

[Mechwarrior1441491]

Far Reach, on 12 May 2019 - 01:05 PM, said:

That big write up is a strange way of showing your disdain for other play styles.
And you wonder why this game is on life support.

NASCAR certainly has something to do with it being on life support. Nothing like mindless zerging to your right abandoning your team. That is a play style?

[Skippy The Danger Squirrel]

So when I spawn into the crater on HPG Manifold with my 54kph (max engine) Fafnir and it takes me two minutes to waddle my way out of the crater and around to a "safe" door where I won't get back-stabbed by a swarm of lights, only to have the team that is twice as fast as me swirl away like a **** in the toilet, that's my fault? The real joy is when people whine that the "fatties aren't sharing any armor". Like we can keep up with you.....

[Mechwarrior1441491]

The entire nascar concept is the opposite of role warfare.

[Prototelis]

Mechwarrior1441491, on 14 May 2019 - 09:10 AM, said:

The entire nascar concept is the opposite of role warfare.

What the hell are you talking about?

Nascar has tons of roles!

Theres Fords, Chevys, Earndhardts, and even a Richard Trickle... And thats just to name a few!

Edited by Prototelis, 14 May 2019 - 09:16 AM.

[Mechwarrior1441491]

Funny thing is that you abruptly stop doing nascar and then turn your entire force into the front of theirs, the game gets more exciting and you will probably annihilate them a lot faster.

[Prototelis]

Or your biggest slowest mechs(potatoes) heat cap themselves shooting at the small fast mechs and get rolled by the heavies right behind those guys. Then the rest of your team goes back to circling. Because

100% success rate dude.

[shaytalis]

Why would you spend 15 minutes on a modern computer to flip a coin?