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[Will9761]

I stopped buying mechpacks due to lack of content or the snail's pace of it and the lack of care that the devs have shown. The only time I have bought mechpacks was if there was a certain mech that I wanted (the Hatamoto for example) or to reward PGI for good behavior (I bought the Warhammer IIC because they kicked HG's butt). However, it went further due to the frustrations I had with game and the recent dev update was a nail in the coffin for me. However I am still keeping MW5 due to mod support and the amusement to show how well the community's effort can do better than PGI's current game just like HBS Battletech to Roguetech. It is also the real game that I wanted since 2009. That is, if HG didn't intervene in the first place.

Heck, with the amount of new mechs coming out for C-bills and the current mechs we have now, who needs to buy more mechs? In a way, MWO feels like a farm for MW5 when you think about it. MWO is the barn, the mechs are the livestock, the modders are the farmers and MW5 is the farm.

Despite my gripes and disappointment with PGI though, I still am grateful to them for: Sarah's Jenner, releasing the unseens, giving HG the proper beating they rightfully deserved and the Mechdad Autism event.

As of right now, I can't justify giving them anymore money. Even if I had the disposable income.

Edited by Will9761, 02 June 2019 - 02:11 AM.

[Unnatural Growth]

TheArisen, on 01 June 2019 - 06:03 AM, said:

A discussion thread for this question. Russ believes players have so many mechs that interest just isn't what it used to be.

However I have seen some say that the number of mechs isn't what stopped them from buying mechs so why did you stop buying mechs or why do do you think fewer people buy mech?

Poll
https://mwomercs.com...ing-mech-packs/

I spent right at $2K on this game, over 6 years. Most of that was spent in the early years. Before I fully came to grips with what a pathological liar Russ is.

That is about $1900 more than I got back from it. And that's trying to be "generous". Maybe I got $100 worth of entertainment out of it over 6 years... Russ & Co., have repeatedly lowered the bar over the years. Minimum Viable Product is not a great business model. But it seems they think as long as they do just enough to keep the angry mobs from dragging them from their beds in the middle of the night and beating them to death with stuffed animals (it takes longer) and setting fire to their remains, then they have made this game "A Success".

I will spend no further on MWO.

I seriously doubt I will buy MW5. It will only happen after it's "full release", and I research a dozen or so 3rd party reviews to see how big a bag of garbage it is.

The way I see it, HBS is the only hope for the franchise at this point.

[Ngamok]

I haven't played in over a year but I still bought the Dervish. Last packs I bought prior to that were the Blood Asp and Fafnir.

[shaytalis]

Actually I didn't stop buy mech packs, but the update's on the 31st left me so uncertain about what PGI is doing that now I'm hesitant to spend more money on it.

[Imperius]

I stopped buying mechs after the engine decoupling. Except the ones I promised I’d buy if released.

I basically I felt there was going to be no investment into MWO’s future after the MW5 announcement either. There was no talk of porting MWO to a new game engine. Add the fact the nerfs to my only 2-3 mechs I played and their play styles that was acceptable for 2-3+ years was a huge factor. Didn’t enjoy playing the game anymore and saw no future into it. So I stopped paying money.

I’m not going to MechCon this year either. I went every year since it started. This time I just don’t feel like spending $1500 on travel expenses just to chit chat very briefly with the developers. The PGI tour was done before my flight had landed and I didn’t get to go. They put the schedule out way too late for me to change anything. Even after I kept asking for more details.

So in summary there are just far too many tiny mistakes that have left a big negative in my attitude. I had fun at the cons, the staff was always respectful, but the mis-managing of lots of things has built up and left me feeling disappointed.

I’m buying MW5 but that’s about it. I even stopped attending the AMA’s because I felt the answers were often too generic or the good questions were skipped over. The discord has also been a discussion place for MWO. Which is what we have the forums for. So I’ve blocked a lot of people and then just finally muted the server and only periodically check the Monday photo drops. Basically why have a mw5 server if MWO is what’s discussed in it?

End rant

Edited by Imperius, 02 June 2019 - 05:40 AM.

[RobarGK]

I stopped buying mech packs because it's hard to justify the spending to my wife. To get anything that I wouldn't just get through playing you have to get either the collector or add on the hero. Since that costs as much as a full game, it wasn't worth it. Add in that Mc comes steady enough through events for the occasion hero, and that the game has no single player for when my terrible internet is down or not fast enough, and that I have around 200 mechs already, there's not much need to buy more mech packs. That said, they've gotten more money out of me then any other game has, many times over. Which raises the question of why do they need funds for this game so badly, when so many was already put into it by so many. Lots of AAA games get by with $30-80 from the majority, and only a little bit more extra from those that get invested, so why is it that, based on what mechs I see in game and how many people on here say they've spent so much, does this game always seem to be struggling? Also, I don't feel like throwing money at a game that seems to have stagnated and now seems to be on the verge of ceasing development. That's just a poor investment.

[Grus]

Most of them dont really add anything new or interesting.

[lobsterhierarchy]

No new maps or revised game modes.

Mech packs are expensive for no reason (and I make a decent salary) - $15 for a hero after buying a normal pack for $20...what is this? CS:GO?

No revisions to tier levels and match maker.

No faction play balancing or way to get new players feet wet into it. As it stands, the poor puggies are terrible, we let them know they are terrible, and there’s no way to level them up per se to use faction as an end game. The meta mechs in faction are too rigid to incentivize buying new mechs to compete with - the last decent one we had for clan was the vapor eagle and the roughneck for the IS. Most mech decisions come down to, can it do lasers better than a HBR or ballistics better than a MKIIB/blood asp?

[Feral Clown]

Cause I have over 450 of them and use less than half. Nothing the mechs offered that are a must have or bring anything unique or interesting to the game. Finally because I am sick and tired of PGI not listening and going backwards, such as the new faction update killing off loyalists, making it impossible to switch sides after conflict locked in making it harder to get games than ever before.

[memorandum]

the mechpacks are overpriced, not that i haven't bought some of them, but it has been few and far between.

i jumped on the founders wagon back in the day.

i've played mwo on and off since then, i bought the mw5 preorder and have been getting back into mwo again.

QP is my main game mode, i don't play Solaris, FW is okay but it's not what i had hoped it would be, Mechwarrior: living legends with the huge battles that we used to have there is what i wanted from faction warfare.

basicly battlefield with mechs
for those that don't know what i mean look below

[ShiverMeRivets]

I don’t buy mech packs because I prefer to buy MC and then use it to get the specific hero that I want. When I run out of old mechs to buy, I’ll start paying MC to get new mechs before they are released for cbills - if I like the variant.

Edited by ShiverMeRivets, 02 June 2019 - 08:53 AM.

[Kenyon Burguess]

PGI was warned before the game left alpha to go IS only, or Clan only, but not to try and balance the two against each other. That’s where they lost me financially. I buy one thing per year to support the IP I love, not PGI. Props to the wonderful programmers and artists who did their best with the very broken balance system handed to them.

[Alaric Howard]

Introduce melee oriented mechs (with melee combat mechanics), and I will buy every hatchetman and axeman variant you come up with.

[xXBagheeraXx]

I only get inner sphere mech packs that REALLY interest me. So that's rare. Clan mechs are a poor investment because clans are subject to massive nerfs at any time.

[Brizna]

There's a lot of mechs, I doubt there is any mech you can add that can fill a role not perfectly covered by several pre existing mechs, so really all they could do is power creep, which they have done to a certain extent but they have known when to stop of it before it gets out of hand which is good for the game in the long term but sucks if you are trying to sell mechs.

MWO has to reinvent its monetization model if PGI has a long term plan for the licence. I'd say MC sales are the way to go as is adding more quality of life improvements you can get with them, but as much as I thank PGI for all teh free MCs being handed out recently that should stop to increase income from MC purchases.

Another missing thing for MWO is obviously a long term development plan, but that is a much bigger problem, the feeling that PGI is just letting the game die milking the last drops of blood left on it is everywhere. Mind you, they do have a right to make money, and I do understand that after 7 years maybe MWO's profitability is at an end but it does make me sad, because I don't think anyone else will take this IP up in a loooong time.

[Chatin The Skunk]

While I've bought a mech when it came out because it interested me I've never bought a "pack" because variants in it either were terrible or I didn't see any value in buying it for one mech.

More variants does not mean more value. If the variant can't even be used adequately due to bad hardpoints, perks or meta... then it isn't worth buying.

As the meta has changed, nerfs, buffs, ect... many mechs need a rework on hard points or perks to make them viable again. As it stands there's no point to owning 6+ mechs of a single chassis when only 1-2 are worth a damn.

Edited by Chatin The Skunk, 02 June 2019 - 01:16 PM.

[TWIAFU]

FupDup, on 01 June 2019 - 09:57 AM, said:

A few reasons.

A. Lack of mechs that interest me.

This is my primary reason. Last time I bought/gifted a Pack was the Classic Collection. It is/was something I wanted. I will buy 'mechs I want to pilot. For me, they don't need to be meta mechs but they do need to make me smile and have fun while I am in the Cockpit.

Looking at my Technical Readouts, they are numerous mechs there that would get me to open my wallet again.

For example, bring me the Hollander and I will gladly be at the font of the line to buy.

[PalinRMA]

They are to much money and how many Mechs do you need. I buy have bought some only when they are on sale.

[Captain Caveman DE]

new mechs don't solve either the state of nascar-queue, nor solve the issues we have with factionplay (now more).

so.. no fixes, no money from me.

fix and improve upon your game, then i -will- buy something again.
I wanna have fun games, that means the game should be fun and playable. don't need new mechs for that.

[M E M E M A C H I N E]

Scout mode was my number one reason for buying medium and light mech packs. Now that scout mode is gone from the game (with no explanation or statement regarding this whatsoever) I won't be buying the dervish, and if I had preordered I would have cancelled it.

Edited by M E M E M A C H I N E, 02 June 2019 - 03:16 PM.