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[The pessimistic optimist]

Are people still whining that one of the weapon systems is no longer trash tier weapons.

Edited by SirSmokes, 07 October 2019 - 02:35 AM.

[Mole]

There's probably just not enough population left to whine about LRMs ever since Russ gave his End Of Life update for MWO.

[Dimento Graven]

Mole, on 07 October 2019 - 02:10 PM, said:

There's probably just not enough population left to whine about LRMs ever since Russ gave his End Of Life update for MWO.

No, it just gets old hearing about those who are effectively borrowing skill, try and justify buffing "computer guided anything" in a Player-vs-Player, skill-vs-skill game, when it is entirely opposite of what should done.

In a PvE environment, yeah, no harm, no foul, but PvP it's just really dumb.

Edited by Dimento Graven, 07 October 2019 - 02:18 PM.

[The pessimistic optimist]

Dimento Graven, on 07 October 2019 - 02:17 PM, said:

No, it just gets old hearing about those who are effectively borrowing skill, try and justify buffing "computer guided anything" in a Player-vs-Player, skill-vs-skill game, when it is entirely opposite of what should done.

In a PvE environment, yeah, no harm, no foul, but PvP it's just really dumb.

Ok so take a main stay battle tech weapon out of the game? If it's going to be trash take it out no point in having a useless weapon system

Edited by SirSmokes, 07 October 2019 - 04:45 PM.

[Prototelis]

This isn't a board game, and concessions absolutely should be made to suit the medium.

[The ImpIication]

SirSmokes, on 07 October 2019 - 04:44 PM, said:

Ok so take a main stay battle tech weapon out of the game? If it's going to be trash take it out no point in having a useless weapon system

This is not BattleTech.

[The pessimistic optimist]

Prototelis, on 07 October 2019 - 04:50 PM, said:

This isn't a board game, and concessions absolutely should be made to suit the medium.

It's based on Battle-tech so removing a major weapon system from the game just silly. And LRM are only dangerous if you're fool and don't have counters or don't know how to avoid them

Ari Gold, on 07 October 2019 - 04:57 PM, said:

This is not BattleTech.

That the dumbest augment I ever heard its based on it and you're adapting. LRM are a major weapon system. Let just cut out all the stuff people don't like to suit there tastes

Edited by SirSmokes, 07 October 2019 - 05:01 PM.

[The ImpIication]

There are many BT weapons not in MWO. Any sort of lock-on weapon in an FPS is fundamentally bad gameplay. That's all there is to it.

[The pessimistic optimist]

Ari Gold, on 07 October 2019 - 05:02 PM, said:

There are many BT weapons not in MWO. Any sort of lock-on weapon in an FPS is fundamentally bad gameplay. That's all there is to it.

What weapon that are not in the game that fit on mechs form this part of the time line? Pretty sure all major weapon are in there that are of note and importance. So yes people still want to whine

Edited by SirSmokes, 07 October 2019 - 05:20 PM.

[JediPanther]

You need a lrm 80-100 for lrms to be any scarry or effective. Guess there is no ecm stealth lrm 100 mechs that can alpha you dead in two or less volleys.

[Prototelis]

^Not really.

SirSmokes, on 07 October 2019 - 05:09 PM, said:

What weapon that are not in the game that fit on mechs form this part of the time line? Pretty sure all major weapon are in there that are of note and importance. So yes people still want to whine

The series has always made serious concessions to the source material in order to provide a good game; don't be ignorant.

This isn't a ******* board game.

Edited by Prototelis, 07 October 2019 - 05:55 PM.

[Mystere]

Ari Gold, on 07 October 2019 - 05:02 PM, said:

Any sort of lock-on weapon in an FPS is fundamentally bad gameplay. That's all there is to it.

I guess DCS is trash then, right?

[The pessimistic optimist]

Mystere, on 07 October 2019 - 06:04 PM, said:

I guess DCS is trash then, right?

OH NOS you shooty missiles at my fly fly

[The ImpIication]

Mystere, on 07 October 2019 - 06:04 PM, said:

I guess DCS is trash then, right?

Not sure, I don't play simulators.

[The pessimistic optimist]

Ari Gold, on 07 October 2019 - 06:20 PM, said:

Not sure, I don't play simulators.

This is a mech simulation silly

[Prototelis]

None of the mechwarrior games have really been sims, Battletech isn't hard scifi no matter how hard the fans wish it was.

[The ImpIication]

SirSmokes, on 07 October 2019 - 06:24 PM, said:

This is a mech simulation silly

Don't piss on my leg and tell me it's raining

[The pessimistic optimist]

Ari Gold, on 07 October 2019 - 06:34 PM, said:

Don't piss on my leg and tell me it's raining

Ok I will piss on you're head and tell you it's raining better?

[Sjorpha]

I like where lrms are now. Not as strong as direct fire loadouts but strong enough to see play.

It's true what dimento says, that homing weapons shouldn't be as competitive as aimed weapons in shooters. It's also true what smokes says, that you shouldn't have a useless weapon system in the game. Fortunately the current state of lrms satisfies both of these, as they are comparably weaker but not useless.

[PhoenixFire55]

SirSmokes, on 07 October 2019 - 06:24 PM, said:

This is a mech simulation silly

This is about as much mech simulator as Super Mario Brothers is a plumber simulator.