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#341 didunoel

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Posted 28 April 2020 - 05:21 PM

some boomers bad at the game P O G

#342 Brain Cancer

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Posted 28 April 2020 - 05:22 PM

View PostDAEDALOS513, on 28 April 2020 - 04:58 PM, said:


But only pir's will crit out all your weapons in seconds in even the most armored assault.. they are a broken mech.


If you don't have armor left, you're correct.

It's almost like they're good at destroying unarmored locations or something once their team rips a hole in something. How strange that one will generally wait for such an opening before securing the kill, secure in the knowhow that most PUGs will neither be able to aim and hit one, pay attention to it, or actually pilot something that will rip it a new one.

It's like whining about LRMs.

#343 thievingmagpi

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Posted 28 April 2020 - 05:22 PM

this is without a doubt the most entertaining day in mwo history.

#344 RockmachinE

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Posted 28 April 2020 - 05:25 PM

View Postthievingmagpi, on 28 April 2020 - 05:22 PM, said:

this is without a doubt the most entertaining day in mwo history.


Most certainly.

#345 Tarl Cabot

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Posted 28 April 2020 - 05:29 PM

View PostTranderas, on 28 April 2020 - 05:15 PM, said:

I'm enjoying watching people complain about people better than them. The matchmaker isn't biased, they aren't trying to make your lives miserable. They care about the game enough to improve at it, and if you claim to care about the game and refuse to get better then you are lying to yourself and everyone around you.

This is the best decision PGI has made in years.


We believe MM is simply forming up teams, like the group queue did, without using Tiers at all. Paul removed the solo queue, moved everyone to the group queue and put in no more than 1x4-man, 1x3-man or max 2x2-man per side.

As for the Tiers, if, and that is IF.. Paul adds Tiers to the group MM, then it should take higher Tier of that group and not the average, and the Tiers should be reseeded.

But yeah, it figures Paul would use the PGI's KISS principle by putting in the minimum amount of worked necessary.

Edited by Tarl Cabot, 28 April 2020 - 05:31 PM.


#346 Tranderas

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Posted 28 April 2020 - 05:36 PM

View PostTarl Cabot, on 28 April 2020 - 05:29 PM, said:


We believe MM is simply forming up teams, like the group queue did, without using Tiers at all. Paul removed the solo queue, moved everyone to the group queue and put in no more than 1x4-man, 1x3-man or max 2x2-man per side.


Solo Q hasn't used tiers in MM at least since the maintenance mode AMA in April of last year, and may have stopped as early as the first half of the previous year. I know the changes made, and I'm mocking people complaining about it as it's really the only move PGI could make to provide a reasonable queue time for all non-FP players.

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Posted 28 April 2020 - 05:44 PM

Playing the game better than you is seal-clubbing. News at 10.

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Posted 28 April 2020 - 05:48 PM

In this corner: Triple AMS Kit Fox!

In the other corner: LRM SALAMI AND FRIENDS!

*fights*

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#349 thievingmagpi

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Posted 28 April 2020 - 05:49 PM

Wow only three double digits. Save that screenshot.

#350 Jatix

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Posted 28 April 2020 - 05:50 PM

HYPE! Thanks pgi, I've been waiting a long time for this. I look forward to actually being able to play with my friend again. This was one of our favorite games to play back in the day. But we havnt played really in a year or two, we would queue for 10 mins and get nothing. And before that when we would get games, it was just wait 5 mins so we can fight the same 12 man again. The old (the now new) system is the way to go.

If the new current system makes randoms get stomped too bad you can always make premades have reduced tonnage based on group number and psr (like tier 1's can take a bigger tonnage hit than tier 4's which are prob going to bring the team down lol)(and have 4 mans take a tonnaeg hit where 2 mans dont so make up for the competitive advantage of having more players in the same premade). These might not be needed tho. A lot has changed. back in the day when a 4 man could carry a game there was no team voip.

Edited by Jatix, 28 April 2020 - 05:51 PM.


#351 o0cipher0o

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Posted 28 April 2020 - 05:52 PM

Well, for what i've seen in the matches i've played solo since the merge (20? maybe more? didn't count them,), things don't seem too much different from the norm.
Got the usual roflostomps here and there, the usual 12-7/12-6 and similar results matches, and quite a few close ones. So. early results don't seem to indicate the end of all times so many were predicting, but this is just some early testing, we'll have to see in the long run.

At the very least, i'll finally be able to play with my friend without having to wait 30 minutes for a match.


P.S.: also, can you guys avoid talking about your e-peens for 5 minutes? who the **** cares about who's a pro and who isn't? Just play the game as you lot always do and enjoy it. Tryharders, keep tryhardin. Memebuilders, keep memebuilding. Mechdads, keep mechdadding.
Give this a couple weeks and see how it goes. Yes, i was there back when group queue wasn't even in the talking, and honestly, i don't remember things being that much worse than they were lately. The only thing being worse back then was my aiming ._.

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#352 LordSkeletor

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Posted 28 April 2020 - 05:54 PM

Why? Why do you keep screwing with the remaining player base? Are you purposefully trying to kill what's left of the game? My lord....(no pun intended)

#353 Tranderas

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Posted 28 April 2020 - 06:06 PM

View Postthievingmagpi, on 28 April 2020 - 05:22 PM, said:

this is without a doubt the most entertaining day in mwo history.


I would argue the day that Chris announced the proposed clan laser ghost heat change was better. Nerfing the BAsp five days before it came out and losing some 20% of their BAsp preorders was good times. Seems an odd coincidence that that patch aligns with Russ's timeline for when mech packs stopped being profitable.

#354 Nearly Dead

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Posted 28 April 2020 - 06:23 PM

Judging by my day today, I will probably be moving on. If some of the people I listened to today in QP were playing in group Q, I think I understand why they ran out of players. And it will probably happen to the main game now too.

We will see.

#355 Brain Cancer

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Posted 28 April 2020 - 06:25 PM

You can beat the leet guys...if their own team kills them, apparently. *waves at Opus X*

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View PostLouis Brofist, on 28 April 2020 - 06:15 PM, said:



Your K/D for March is just over 1, which means for each of those 5 kill matches...there's a lot of not 5 kill matches. But good on those. I get em too, but they're definitely not an every-match sorta thing.

https://leaderboard....u=Louis+Brofist

#356 Brain Cancer

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Posted 28 April 2020 - 06:32 PM

By their powers combined: They are 9 kill planet! (Seriously, good effort no joke.)

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#357 crazytimes

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Posted 28 April 2020 - 06:35 PM

Has the tier MM been turned off completely? Makes sense I suppose. There are people who are... shall we say interesting cruising around in matches at the moment. Some exoitc builds and questions about what UAVs do for example.

The groups are dropping with their own comms. Good for them. Nothing else is happening in voice chat. The rest of the team is a mix of tier 5-1, all doing their own thing.

I think I might give it a break for a while and come back when this all blows over... if there's anything left to come back to.

#358 RockmachinE

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Posted 28 April 2020 - 06:37 PM

With all my ****** performance in solo q, today I have no problems with or against groups. I expected more from "serious" players. Meh. gg

Hope MWO lives through this.

#359 ShooteyMcShooterson

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Posted 28 April 2020 - 06:43 PM

One thing already clear is that derpy 3-4 mans can ruin the match for everyone else. Like say clowns dropping in xl lrm boat assaults.

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Posted 28 April 2020 - 06:56 PM

View Postcrazytimes, on 28 April 2020 - 06:35 PM, said:

Has the tier MM been turned off completely? Makes sense I suppose. There are people who are... shall we say interesting cruising around in matches at the moment. Some exoitc builds and questions about what UAVs do for example.

The groups are dropping with their own comms. Good for them. Nothing else is happening in voice chat. The rest of the team is a mix of tier 5-1, all doing their own thing.

I think I might give it a break for a while and come back when this all blows over... if there's anything left to come back to.


Tier MM has been off for over a year.





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