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[A Damn Dirty Ape]

I have noticed that when I use my best Mechs, and they are almost all assaults, its taking about 5 minutes to get into a game. I would say its at least double the wait as before, or at least I have been saying to myself for the past few days, "huh, seems slower than normal". I am Tier 1, long time player.

Also while I am writing this and sorry if this is off topic. The game crashing right when the match starts, has been an ongoing issue for I don't know how long now, regardless of what PC I use. That leaves the Mech sitting AFK in the match, and you end up getting penalized for leaving the match early, but whats really going on is your restarting the game as fast as you can hoping to get re-join the match before someone kills your Mech.

[Janet Yellen]

FRAGTAST1C, on 30 May 2020 - 03:56 AM, said:

Still no word on how PGI will be assessing the threat value of a group.

Still no mention on whether the spawns will be fixed or not (re: Assaults spawning in Alpha lance despite not being in a group)

Still no intention to solve the lopsided tonnage balance.

Still no interest in keeping Siege in all phases of a conflict in FW alongside other modes.

FRAGTAST1C your expectations are too High. You need to wait and see if Paul improves the match making with the PSR reset and adjustments first. After that happens and it proves to be an improvement and that He didn't make it worse (because he doesn't share the PSR code to be evaluated) then you can add ONE of your secondary issues to be addressed.

[Warning incoming Humble Dexterer]

Paul Meyers DEST, on 30 May 2020 - 01:25 AM, said:

Well, after some playing and having fun with my mates in qp, i still think it would be much better to let solos get into group queue instead of the other way round. The impact of the group in solo queue is to much: weight, skill and group setup is bugged.

I don't QP much, but in my last QP match there was 4+ grouped players doing an Assassin rush, and sure enough the whole match was about that handful of Assassin players racing together to mow everything down on their own.

The only reason it ended 2-12 instead of 0-12, is because two non-Assassin ungrouped mechs had strayed to the other side of the map at the beginning of the match and got killed there.

It doesn't matter if it's a group vs ungrouped abuse or a broken Assassin grouping abuse : This is repeatable at will.

Edited by Warning incoming Humble Dexterer, 30 May 2020 - 07:50 AM.

[Firefox54]

While not related to the reset question ... this is a comment regarding the current MWO changes.
I don't know if PGI changed anything in the last day or two ... but the "stompiness" of matches seems to have increased in the last 2-3 days.

[FRAGTAST1C]

Firefox54, on 30 May 2020 - 07:50 AM, said:

but the "stompiness" of matches seems to have increased in the last 2-3 days.

Only 1% increase.

*sigh*

[Nearly Dead]

I have to agree with W.i.H.D. and Firefox54. Stomps are bad right now and there are some premade groups that are just being jerks. People are talking about it in the chat also, it is causing some bitterness and resentment among the ordinary players.

I hope they get the reset right and soon, because the price of dumping the toxic queue into the solo queue is about to take it's toll otherwise.

Edited by Nearly Dead, 30 May 2020 - 08:22 AM.

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Nearly Dead, on 30 May 2020 - 08:20 AM, said:

I have to agree with W.i.H.D. and Firefox54. Stomps are bad right now and there are some premade groups that are just being jerks. People are talking about it in the chat also, it is causing some bitterness and resentment among the ordinary players.

I hope they get the reset right and soon, because the price of dumping the toxic queue into the solo queue is about to take it's toll otherwise.

I see way more toxic ''bad players'' than ''good'' ones. It is a fact.

[spannerturner]

Brauer, on 29 May 2020 - 05:45 AM, said:

Prior to the queue merge I had not seen a cadet in one of my quick play matches in ages. When playing quick play at this point I see them with some frequency as well as players who tell me they are in tier 4 or 5. The playerbase has not declined so much that cadets must be placed into matches that include tier 1 players, or that T4 and 5 need to be matched with T1. This is purely a byproduct of this unbaked queue merge.

This queue merge has made matchmaking far worse (and it wasn't terribly good before), in part because the matchmaker basically just throws groups into matches without any sense of creating balanced sides.

I have seen, on several occasions most notably since the exodus following the Epic announcement, matches with a Cadet (sometimes up to 3) in it. All of these were before this merge experiment started. At one point, it was happening at least once a week (I even commented on it on the Discord channel I partake in). Now, I don't follow the day to day, nor month to month, player participation levels, so for all I know only 23 other people could have been playing during those periods...

I don't pretend to know why it happened, nor do I really care, just relaying my observations...

[General Solo]

PGI could make a badge called "MM Season One Tier Current Tier" so people have a momento of their journey through the teirs

Edited by OZHomerOZ, 30 May 2020 - 09:21 AM.

[1911freak]

Do it! resetting will be no big deal IMO.

[MagicalMayhem]

Reset the tiers.

[Anomalocaris]

Janet Yellen, on 30 May 2020 - 07:19 AM, said:

FRAGTAST1C your expectations are too High. You need to wait and see if Paul improves the match making with the PSR reset and adjustments first. After that happens and it proves to be an improvement and that He didn't make it worse (because he doesn't share the PSR code to be evaluated) then you can add ONE of your secondary issues to be addressed.

+1 Past experience and Paul's limited comments so far make me skeptical about any significant improvement. I won't play merge queue until all you guinea pigs demonstrate that Paul can generate balanced teams with groups. I might be waiting a long time.....

p.s. check player numbers on steam. Already down quite a bit from the "experimental" phase...

[The Teddy Bear]

Anomalocaris, on 30 May 2020 - 12:27 PM, said:

+1 Past experience and Paul's limited comments so far make me skeptical about any significant improvement. I won't play merge queue until all you guinea pigs demonstrate that Paul can generate balanced teams with groups. I might be waiting a long time.....

Amen! Sounds like some logic heads are stilll flying around out there.

[Rkshz]

yes yes yes just reset tiers...
but I repeat - don't break current calculations system, stable "Average Score" are currently the only objective indicator of skill now. So just create dynamic tier, average score dependent. For example:
tier 5 = 0-99 AS
tier 4 = 100-199 AS
tier 3 = 200-299 AS
tier 2 = 300-399 AS
tier 1 = 400+ AS
- the tier should be updated every 20 games depending on stable "Average Score"
its objective and simple, and it will work with current calculations system, and you don’t need to break anything or redo it

Edited by Rkshz, 30 May 2020 - 02:20 PM.

[Davegt27]

lets get this reset going and stop talking about it

13 losses and 3 wins I sure hope I get kicked out of tier 1 soon

[THEREALGUNS]

Lets give it a try,

[Fractis Zero]

I am for a reset.

Perhaps a staff member could make a poll rather then watching this forum?

[spannerturner]

Fractis Zero, on 30 May 2020 - 03:59 PM, said:

I am for a reset.

Perhaps a staff member could make a poll rather then watching this forum?

Whoa there big fella! No reason to bring logic into this now..!

[Skippynibble]

reset

[Nearly Dead]

Based on today's games, they better get it right, and fast, or it will be too late. What a mess.